Modes Why no mode exclusive content?

Like what? Calling someone a ? Oh wait it wasnt me.


Hmm.. easy mode, cowards, burglars, etc... Over and over you try to slide in insults as you try to compare the game to Bull hockey examples from the real world in an attempt to justify how you treat other players. You egg people on HOPING that someone will call you a or flat out insult you.. that is all part of your MO..
 
Only the thing is I know both how to PVE and PvP better than you. All you know is how to write on the Modes section on the forums.
That's fine, I'll freely admit you're probably 10x the player I am. Does that make you feel better? Is anything settled? I don't know what you're going for, but you're coming off like an NBA player taunting the guys at the gym that they can't touch him. Is it true? Absolutely. Does it mean anything? Absolutely not.
 
Its very relevant, its exactly how it is, unless you can give me some counter arguments.

Then using your logic anytime griefing happens it is a sexual assault.. since YOU said yes.

Which we both know is absolute horse hockey, but you peddle this crap because you try to get rises out of people.
 
You know there has been 4 Open Only events right?
Open has already had more content than PGs and Solo.

Solo has had less, as Solo cannot use Wings or Multi-crew.
Solo also has to put up with Wing Missions cluttering up their mission boards.

So how about some fairness here and Solo get's some Solo only events, NPC crew/wing members and when are PGs getting hardware give away events and stories?
Thank you commander. Every time I bring this up (that most of the new content favors PG/Open) I get shot down. +rep o7
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
If insults mean game over you seem to have lost many threads ago.
In relation to some of your other posts:
PvP can be used in PP in fact its one place it makes some sense: however, by itself it is ineffectual. PvP was meant to be rare, ie it can not be the main means to an end. That is the way the game was designed.
You seem to think people only play in solo to gain the upper hand, many dissagree with you but you cannot accept that for some reason.
Undermining/fortifying from any mode is nothing like robbery, that is a really bad example.
Maybe you dont want to do fortify/undermine and only want the PvP lazors, but that way lies failure unless yournopponent uses only the same tactic.
Really PP is much more like political wars than field manuvers.
ATR should stop the "cop" mining you have complained about. You should broaden your horizons and enjoy the game.
PP is largely a game of numbers, again Sun Tzu is a good read on warfare guidance on how to win even against superior forces.

Overcharged over engineered conda / vette will maw any low tier clean npcs in seconds before the ATR arrives. Its so easy to put a faction into a lockdown state its rediculus, the only threat is other players, but wait, they can't reach you cause you are in SOLO, genius!

Lets not even mention UA bombing which is even less effort.
 
Overcharged over engineered conda / vette will maw any low tier clean npcs in seconds before the ATR arrives. Its so easy to put a faction into a lockdown state its rediculus, the only threat is other players, but wait, they can't reach you cause you are in SOLO, genius!

Lets not even mention UA bombing which is even less effort.


Yet again and again and again and again and again it has been pointed out that YOU CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING. That you do not and want to do it PVPly is NOT nor ever has been the game's or designers' fault... it all lays at the feet of YOU. YOU choose to ignore things and demand the game be redesigned to YOUR desires...


Face it... you bought the wrong game.
 
Only the thing is I know both how to PVE and PvP better than you.

You didn't even know you had CQC installed.
You still cannot figure out how to defend in a BGS war from Solo or PG

And you've still not understood your attitude is why people play in Solo/PGs and has nothing to do with avoiding PvP.
People are doing PvP in PGs and in CQC, away from you.

The modes are not the problem, you are.

All you know is how to write on the Modes section on the forums.

^ and here is the aforementioned attitude.

You really should apply for Jeremy Kyle, you'll fit right in.

(@ Ian; sorry, but if you're not going to leash him in and let him continue to insult after your warning - then no one else will listen either.)
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
You didn't even know you had CQC installed.
You still cannot figure out how to defend in a BGS war from Solo or PG

And you've still not understood your attitude is why people play in Solo/PGs and has nothing to do with avoiding PvP.
People are doing PvP in PGs and in CQC, away from you.

The modes are not the problem, you are.



^ and here is the aforementioned attitude.

You really should apply for Jeremy Kyle, you'll fit right in.

(@ Ian; sorry, but if you're not going to leash him in and let him continue to insult after your warning - then no one else will listen either.)

Too bad you dont have a faction I would go out of my way to farm undermine you so you will finnaly understand something about this game except forum pvp.
 
Too bad you dont have a faction I would go out of my way to farm undermine you so you will finnaly understand something about this game except forum pvp.

Why do you keep thinking people don't understand? People understand fully. Yet you keep claiming YOU understand but no one else does and instead prove that you don't...

You accuse myself, Jockey and others of not knowing a thing about the game except the forums, yet we play successfully.

All you are doing is making YOURSELF look like a fool..
 
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ALGOMATIC

Banned
Yet again and again and again and again and again it has been pointed out that YOU CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING. That you do not and want to do it PVPly is NOT nor ever has been the game's or designers' fault... it all lays at the feet of YOU. YOU choose to ignore things and demand the game be redesigned to YOUR desires...


Face it... you bought the wrong game.

Jesus christ. Ok lets try again. I put your faction in lockdown day in and day out from SOLO. You dont know its me, you cant see me you cannot do anyhting except bounty hunt all your play time to counter it.

Its easier to maw clean ships than bounty hunt because the game spawns more clean ships and authority than it spawns wanted.

In SC I ussually see 10 clean for 1 wanted, that's a win for me and guaranteed lose for your faction. Can you snap from the fanboism and see the huge potential for extreme trolling without any consequences and its all because I can easily hide in SOLO.

I didnt even start talking about UA bombing that can cripple your faction in fraction of the time it takes to put it in lockdown.

Now based on your generic high level answers I am convinced you have no idea about the arguments you are making and you have no idea how the BGS works. Just screaming "you can also do the same durr hurr" pretty much rests my case.

I still didnt hear Jockey's argument but I doubt he knows more than you.

Why do you keep thinking people don't understand? People understand fully. Yet you keep claiming YOU understand but no one else does and instead prove that you don't...

You accuse myself, Jockey and others of not knowing a thing about the game except the forums, yet we play successfully.

All you are doing is making YOURSELF look like a fool..

Read above, I honesty think you are forum ganking me if you cant grasp some simple concepts as to what undermining from SOLO actually means.
 
Jesus christ. Ok lets try again. I put your faction in lockdown day in and day out from SOLO. You dont know its me, you cant see me you cannot do anyhting except bounty hunt all your play time to counter it.

Its easier to maw clean ships than bounty hunt because the game spawns more clean ships and authority than it spawns wanted.

In SC I ussually see 10 clean for 1 wanted, that's a win for me and guaranteed lose for your faction. Can you snap from the fanboism and see the huge potential for extreme trolling without any consequences and its all because I can easily hide in SOLO.

I didnt even start talking about UA bombing that can cripple your faction in fraction of the time it takes to put it in lockdown.

Now based on your generic high level answers I am convinced you have no idea about the arguments you are making and you have no idea how the BGS works. Just screaming "you can also do the same durr hurr" pretty much rests my case.

I still didnt hear Jockey's argument but I doubt he knows more than you.



Read above, I honesty think you are forum ganking me if you cant grasp some simple concepts as to what undermining from SOLO actually means.


Honestly I think you have a serious issue with COMPREHENSION, because everything you said above... can be COUNTERED.. in ANY MODE...

You seriously IGNORE facts and continue to spout "SOLO IS BAD" like a raving g lunatic.

And you mention UA bombing... and some have tried it to screw with other people.. and you know what happened? People in Solo, PGs, and Open brought in Meta Alloys and reversed what those who tried to shut down the station did.


Algo... give it up... screaming about Solo doesn't do anything because anything anyone can do in Solo can be done or even countered in ANY other mode.... and you just refuse to admit it.
 
I know exactly what you mean. I had my own private little empire, took my favored faction from 4 systems to ten, from one controlling faction to 8. Then FD dropped a player faction right in the middle. When I realized that a system had been taken over, I put it back into election and won it. They tried again and I stopped them. I was playing in pg, then open, never saw them. I then discovered they were on consoles. Since it was only me against them I only had one of two options available. Keep on or leave. You have the same choice. Redesigning the game is not an option.
 
I just gave you a RL exsmple representation of the imbalance of the BGS system because of the modes that has nothing to do with PvP. All you or anyone here is giving me lectures of theoretical nonesence about things they have no clue about.

Are you quite sure you're meaning to respond to me or was this just part of a shotgun "must defeat everybody" campaign? As far as I can tell all you've done is reply to a tangential comment with a lot of misspelled and inaccurate... something that pertains to absolutely nothing I said.

And on topic: The difference in solo versus open for hunting of NPC ships is nil, the ships themselves -in a vacuum- spawn at the same rate across all modes. The open mode itself is also very vulnerable to network "shenanigans" to avoid peer to peer connections and thus effectively "hide". It's not open versus solo that you should be primarily concerned about, it's the peer versus server authority for bracketing players into instances. Until you force all player-player contact through official servers, you'll never have an actual open mode. HOWEVER...

If your argument isn't about modes, but about lockdown/crashing of factions being far easier to accomplish than protection of positive states without hunting the opposing player, then either i) it's as intended and you need to "suck it up, buttercup" or ii) it's not and you need to propose values be tweaked to make things more equitable. But, again, it's zero to do with open or solo modes being inherently unfair. It's all in your mind, laddie. If you force content into open, you're going to open up ten new cans of worms, and any one of them would be far uglier than all the stamping your feet on a forum will ever be.

Hugs'n'Kisses,
-J
 
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Too bad you dont have a faction I would go out of my way to farm undermine you so you will finnaly understand something about this game except forum pvp.

When will you finally learn, you're not even a drop in the ocean.
You've proven how little you know about the game, to the point you didn't even know you have CQC installed (and that's on the main menu).

Face it, your opinions of the mode system mean nothing. As Frontier want them and we support them.
Your arguments here are without substance, as we've all attacked or defended through the BGS here, yet you cannot do it and complain about it.

PvP is worthless for the BGS. What you can do all day in PvP, I can do in 10 minutes with NPCs
If you want a BGS war, and limit yourself to PvP. I'd only need to login once a week to fight back.

You bought a PvE game, that allows for optional, consensual PvP for fun.

Caveat emptor - next time, read before spending.
 
Are you quite sure you're meaning to respond to me or was this just part of a shotgun "must defeat everybody" campaign? As far as I can tell all you've done is reply to a tangential comment with a lot of misspelled and inaccurate... something that pertains to absolutely nothing I said.

And on topic: The difference in solo versus open for hunting of NPC ships is nil, the ships themselves -in a vacuum- spawn at the same rate across all modes. The open mode itself is also very vulnerable to network "shenanigans" to avoid peer to peer connections and thus effectively "hide". It's not open versus solo that you should be primarily concerned about, it's the peer versus server authority for bracketing players into instances. Until you force all player-player contact through official servers, you'll never have an actual open mode. HOWEVER...

If your argument isn't about modes, but about lockdown/crashing of factions being far easier to accomplish than protection of positive states without hunting the opposing player, then either i) it's as intended and you need to "suck it up, buttercup" or ii) it's not and you need to propose values be tweaked to make things more equitable. But, again, it's zero to do with open or solo modes being inherently unfair. It's all in your mind, laddie. If you force content into open, you're going to open up ten new cans of worms, and any one of them would be far uglier than all the stamping your feet on a forum will ever be.

Hugs'n'Kisses,
-J

I have only one rep to give you, and this post deserves more.

Unfortunately, this has all been pointed out to him before, along with all the methods Frontier put in the game to tailor your Open experience (friends lists and block lists), the realities of the matchmaking server’s criteria for adding players, the fact there is no cross-platform instancing, the problems of time zones, and the fact that his “defensive” strategy is identical to a strategy used to attack a faction, so even if he get what he wants, he’ll be doing damage to his faction, rather than protecting it.

Of course, this is all academic because:

I dont have a faction nor do I touch any BGS or PP activity with the current implementation of the game. As far as I am concerned they can remove both BGS and PP from the game.
 
See, that's the downside of a wall. Can you quote the specific part which you're talking about?

You'll have to accept my apologies: I don't know how to give quotes where the quoted post has been locked down.

Mark Allen: "On a personal note: I play more or less entirely in PvE, so if anything my bias in favour of that"
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4808539&viewfull=1#post4808539

Read above, I honesty think you are forum ganking me if you cant grasp some simple concepts as to what undermining from SOLO actually means.

Algo, take 5 and then come back pls. I said I didn't want this to become a dung flinging match. I don't give a flying donkey whether the forumites understand how flawed PP is, because that has nothing to do with this thread.

Everyone else, stop flinging dung in the first place. You should be ashamed of yourselves!
 
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You'll have to accept my apologies: I don't know how to give quotes where the quoted post has been locked down.

Mark Allen: "On a personal note: I play more or less entirely in PvE, so if anything my bias in favour of that"
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4808539&viewfull=1#post4808539


Use;

{Quote="name";"forum number"} text {/Quote}

You can get the forum number by hovering your mouse over the post number in top right corner, it's the last set of digits in the address (I tend to open in a new tab and cop/ paste it from the address bar).
So the forum number for your post quoted is 6521150

To use that as above;

{Quote=Stitch;6521150} Example Text {/Quote}

So you can do this with any post, even locked ones.
But then you have to copy/paste the text yourself with the locked ones, sometimes it will look weird, so it's best on copy/paste to use "clear formatting" on the text after the paste.

So for your quote it's;

{Quote=Mark Allen;4808539}

Hope this helps bud

:)
 
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Use;

{Quote="name";"forum number"} text {/Quote}

You can get the forum number by hovering your mouse over the post number in top right corner (I tend to open them in a new tab and copy/paste it from the address bar).
So the forum number for your post quoted is 6521150

To use that as above;

{Quote=Stitch;6521150} Example Text {/Quote}

So you can do this with any post, even locked ones.
But then you have to copy/paste the text yourself with the locked ones, sometimes it will look weird, so it's best on copy/paste to use "clear formatting" on the text after the paste.

Hope this helps bud

:)


Very helpful - cheers mate. Now you point out where the forum post number is I feel a tad abashed.
 
Jesus christ. Ok lets try again. I put your faction in lockdown day in and day out from SOLO. You dont know its me, you cant see me you cannot do anyhting except bounty hunt all your play time to counter it.

Its easier to maw clean ships than bounty hunt because the game spawns more clean ships and authority than it spawns wanted.

In SC I ussually see 10 clean for 1 wanted, that's a win for me and guaranteed lose for your faction. Can you snap from the fanboism and see the huge potential for extreme trolling without any consequences and its all because I can easily hide in SOLO.

I didnt even start talking about UA bombing that can cripple your faction in fraction of the time it takes to put it in lockdown.

Now based on your generic high level answers I am convinced you have no idea about the arguments you are making and you have no idea how the BGS works. Just screaming "you can also do the same durr hurr" pretty much rests my case.

I still didnt hear Jockey's argument but I doubt he knows more than you.



Read above, I honesty think you are forum ganking me if you cant grasp some simple concepts as to what undermining from SOLO actually means.

Meh. No problem...just have to bounty hunt to clear the lockdown...go get some stuff to clear the UA bombing, blah, blah. People are providing content for the group! Look at that!

Our group has been fighting the BGS since release! What you are so upset about takes very little time to clear off...IF a player group wants to clear it. Your concerns are yours...and PVP players. The people that play the BGS couldn't care less about where someone 'attacks' from...we know how to fix the attack.

I keep telling you guys...your hope will die...and then it's either accept the game as it is designed...and play it with enjoyment...or give up, and leave....either choice is valid...and has no affect on the overall game, at all.
 
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Very helpful - cheers mate. Now you point out where the forum post number is I feel a tad abashed.

Don't worry, it's not very clear.

You see a #number and a reply button, but then to quote it after the thread is locked you need a 5 or 6 digit number and type it all out..... it's a weird system.
But quoting the Devs as much as I have, and looking back at Kickstarter and the DDA - I had learn.

Plus to maintain that Wall and those quotes when I have to move it from thread to thread. Which reminds me, 3 quotes on that are not showing properly and are just links, better go fix it....

Edit;

Now I've fixed those quotes, it dawned on me to also point out that you can quote in quote as well, doing the same trick.
So to show this, I've taken a section of the wall (as I was there, saved typing it all out ;) )

Thanks for that clarity Michael.

Are you in a position to confirm that group switching between the three game modes will remain as a feature of the game?

We're not planning on changing that.

Michael

In written form, from a locked thread using the above ways to get the numbers;

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{Quote=Michael Brookes;1663058}
{Quote=Robert Maynard;1658998}
Thanks for that clarity Michael.

Are you in a position to confirm that group switching between the three game modes will remain as a feature of the game? {/Quote}

We're not planning on changing that.

Michael {/Quote}

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As long as you keep track of opening and closing quote commands, you can go as deep as you like..... (oh er)

You can do this for external websites as well.

{quote=www.elitedangerous.com} Text copied from site {/quote}

www.elitedangerous.com said:
[h=2]TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN STARSHIP IN A CUTTHROAT GALAXY.
[/h]
 
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