I am not sure who came up with this so it's not attributed to myself; however, there's the Hercules Key Stone Asterism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(constellation)

I checked out one of the stars in it in the galaxy map - it's WAY above the galactic plane, and you'd never be able to reach one of the stars in it. The other stars, I believe are fairly local - in galactic terms.

Apologies, that's the only thought from me, and it wasn't mine :D

Alright, bit of a stretch, since I can't see any other connection, but it's worth a shot to explore... I wonder which stars you checked, because the ones in the 'Key Stone Asterism' are

  • Pi Herculis, HIP 84380 (reachable, 7 jumps for me)
  • Zeta Herculis, HIP 81693 (reachable, 1 jump)
  • Eta Herculis, HIP 81833 (reachable, 2 jumps)
  • Epsilon Herculis, HIP 83207 (reachable, 3 jumps)

As you can see, they are perfectly within range and reachable. I'll comb them out, but I'm not positive on them. As mentioned earlier, I think Utopia and Raxxla should somehow gives us something. I got a strong feeling about it, because:

Dark Wheel
(made me think wheel cipher, the Alberti version has the larger circle named 'mobilis' and the smaller circle named 'stabilis', further playing into the 'celestial body' theme)

These are not that dissimilar and both Raxxla and the 'place that isn't a place' aka Utopia are words of the same length, so that makes it even more plausible for me. However, as shown in my previous post, I'm stuck on the results. I should clarify which ciphers gave which results:

EDIT: New(!)
BREEUN
Porta cipher (porta = gate, DOOR, that is also the KEY aka cipher), decrypted. Passphrase: utopia (place that isn't a place), message: raxxla

Only has two systems with BRE EU-N! I'm pretty confident here, because of the above and all other words could only be resolved partially as system names and had 200-10000 results. Anybody close? (56k LY from Sol). One of them is confirmed to have been visited before and they are both almost exactly on the other side of the Galaxy. (lorewise: there were bigger jump ranges in the olden days, right?)

Byeia Bre EU-N b8-0
Byeia Bre EU-N c20-4


If a cipher is at all used in the Raxxla mystery, this has to be it... After that, I'll try exploring other options.

OMCEQA
Vigenère, encrypted. Passphrase: utopia, message: utopia

USMMEV
(no idea what I used)

RZVUHV
(no idea what I used)

IAUUWA
Vigenère, encrypted. Passphrase: raxxla, message: raxxla

**OHGFOA
cipher wheel

**XMFHFA
cipher wheel reversed

XHJIDA
autokey, decrypted. Passphrase: utopia, message: raxxla

DTRSXA

Vigenère, decrypted. Passphrase: raxxla, message: utopia
autokey, decrypted. Passphrase: raxxla, message: utopia

LTLMTA
Vigenère, encrypted. Passphrase: raxxla, message: utopia



Ciphers; experiment yourself: https://www.dcode.fr/
 
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Alright, bit of a stretch, since I can't see any other connection, but it's worth a shot to explore... I wonder which stars you checked, because the ones in the 'Key Stone Asterism' are

  • Pi Herculis, HIP 84380 (reachable, 7 jumps for me)
  • Zeta Herculis, HIP 81693 (reachable, 1 jump)
  • Eta Herculis, HIP 81833 (reachable, 2 jumps)
  • Epsilon Herculis, HIP 83207 (reachable, 3 jumps)

As you can see, they are perfectly within range and reachable. I'll comb them out, but I'm not positive on them.

Apologies - you've made me realise now. I was searching inside the keystone for unusual stars. I think one that sits near the center of them is unreachable.

Here's a more concise link - this one lists some of the stars that are over thousands of light years away:

http://www.constellation-guide.com/constellation-list/hercules-constellation/http://www.constellation-guide.com/constellation-list/hercules-constellation/

I don't have access to the game at the moment so feel free to take a look.

Excellent work by the way, a hot cup of tea in a tinfoil cup is in order. Now, where are the biscuits?
 
Apologies - you've made me realise now. I was searching inside the keystone for unusual stars. I think one that sits near the center of them is unreachable.

Here's a more concise link - this one lists some of the stars that are over thousands of light years away:

http://www.constellation-guide.com/...om/constellation-list/hercules-constellation/

I don't have access to the game at the moment so feel free to take a look.

Excellent work by the way, a hot cup of tea in a tinfoil cup is in order. Now, where are the biscuits?

Well since my attempts to try and find a way into the Cone sector have been destroyed by Frontier... I shall bring you biscuits, while traveling to these far away Bye Bre sector.
 
? What's happened?

They permit locked the whole Cone sector with the new patch, save - apparently - one system...the one into which the Gnosis is going to jump.

This CMDR is beginning to believe that FDev really do hate explorers. The event began as an opportunity to explore a relatively untouched area of currently inaccessible space. Now, all of the possible exploration that could have occured has been taken away, oh, and there be Thargoids. So it's now a four week pew pew stopover.

Beginning to regret going.
 
This is getting a tad silly of FDev. We've had a cancelled wedding that could've been a nice player event, and now the Gnosis dilemma.

Was looking forward to be able to venture off and sight see. Now my explorer ship may need weapons, as Goids are gonna be crashing the party

Fun stuff.
 
They permit locked the whole Cone sector with the new patch, save - apparently - one system...the one into which the Gnosis is going to jump.

This CMDR is beginning to believe that FDev really do hate explorers. The event began as an opportunity to explore a relatively untouched area of currently inaccessible space. Now, all of the possible exploration that could have occured has been taken away, oh, and there be Thargoids. So it's now a four week pew pew stopover.

Beginning to regret going.

Nope, the one that the Gnosis is jumping into is locked as well, see my post higher up the page! :)

It's that system that the PF have specifically cited as having high levels of Thargoid hydra activity.

I'm not sure I follow your sentiment here tbh - there's plenty of relatively unexplored areas of space. For me, jumping into the Cone is very much about the Permit Lock arrangements and discovering possible reasons around it.

And it's still that way for me - that until now the PF has locked the areas around the Cone but not the Cone itself smacks of something unusual going on.

And now what do we see now that it's going to be possible for a jump in there? The PF not only lock the target system, but they issue a warning using the highest threat currently known to humanity - Thargoid Hydras.

It's a simple tactic - if we can't actually stop it, we'll put people off through scare tactics.

And if it's not scare tactics? Well how do the PF know there's high concentrations of Hydras there? And why has the knowledge been kept from them until the PFs hand has been forced?

What's exploration if not discovering things? ;)

Edit - btw, word on the street is that not every system in Cone is locked. I can't attest to the veracity of that info as it stands, however.
 
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All aboard the good ship cannon express for a one way ticket to raxxla !

Let me elaborate... raxxla is in a system close to sol it has been excesable from vanilla (until just now i.e. q3 update) and is ...or was in plain sight and there are so many other links that are too weak to mention without getting the hate train rolling but
. If it is there this is exactly how i would expect fd to smack it down on us by just handing it to the biggest group that relates to it ... come on it was always going to be cannon , children of raxxla or there pet ant!
 
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I sincerely hope im wrong as rax should be found(and logged) by a lone rifter or a small wing of dedicated friends and not a syndicate associated in any way with fd
 
Nope, the one that the Gnosis is jumping into is locked as well, see my post higher up the page! :)

It's that system that the PF have specifically cited as having high levels of Thargoid hydra activity.

I'm not sure I follow your sentiment here tbh - there's plenty of relatively unexplored areas of space. For me, jumping into the Cone is very much about the Permit Lock arrangements and discovering possible reasons around it.

And it's still that way for me - that until now the PF has locked the areas around the Cone but not the Cone itself smacks of something unusual going on.

And now what do we see now that it's going to be possible for a jump in there? The PF not only lock the target system, but they issue a warning using the highest threat currently known to humanity - Thargoid Hydras.

It's a simple tactic - if we can't actually stop it, we'll put people off through scare tactics.

And if it's not scare tactics? Well how do the PF know there's high concentrations of Hydras there? And why has the knowledge been kept from them until the PFs hand has been forced?

What's exploration if not discovering things? ;)

Edit - btw, word on the street is that not every system in Cone is locked. I can't attest to the veracity of that info as it stands, however.

I stand corrected...to some extent. I guess you're holding out for a higher level of lore and narrative thought than I am. How does the PF know there are Thargoid's out there? Because FDev wants there to be Thagoids out there to coincide with this operation. Theres no narrative , it's all handwavium. And locking down the entire sector via permits, just as we were about to jump in, just smacks of narrative on rails. I was very much looking forward to toodling around in the black and taking in the sights over the hundreds of systems that would have been available. Now it looks like I'm locked out of most of that and instead plopped into a system (or two), stuck looking at NHSS's for a month. Blech.
 
From front page “A certain celestial body. Place that isn't a place, door that is also the key. The myth."

well a “door” is also a “gateway”, and there are plenty of stations in-game that are named “xxxx gateway”, and since a station exists in/moves through space while orbiting its parent body, then it could also be viewed as a “celestial body”; so I don’t think we should ignore the possibility of “Raxxla Gateway” orbiting away somewhere in a system that has an obscure name. Especially if it orbited a black hole since that would fit the “Place that isn't a place” bit, as would the station orbiting a comet idea. Come to think of it I dont remember ever having encountered a comet in-game.....

edit: TDW appear to be a particularly bloodthirsty lot. I got a secondary mission yesterday to assassinate some “pirate lord” after merely delivering a load of businessmen (admittedly for 5.5MCr) from Shinrarta to a system only 11ly away. So maybe this is part of the “personal narrative”? Unfortunately I’m getting too old and slow for much combat, although I’ve now got a second Krait set up with mil composite a d weapons which got me a few bounties very quickly when I tried it out, so I sold off the old Vulture and fitted ithe Krait out with cabins for said passenger missions....

Sure. The old 'on Raxxla there's an alien construct that's a gateway to other Universes' could well mean 'In orbit around Raxxla there's an alien construct that's a gateway to other Universes'.

Rafe Zetter was not well enough informed to make that distinction.

Well FD have said (if I remember correctly) there are no other galaxies in ED so I discount the original reference, to an extent, as I can’t see how it could fit technically with what FD have done with ED. However if my hypothesis is correct and there is a station named something like “Raxxla Gateway” then it could be the source of a permit unlock mission to open up an area with a third alien race (or the Guardian AI maybe); that would fit both the game mechanics and the essence of the original reference. That station might be orbiting a comet towards the outer rim of a bubble (or nearby) system making it extremely difficult to find.
 
Well FD have said (if I remember correctly) there are no other galaxies in ED so I discount the original reference, to an extent, as I can’t see how it could fit technically with what FD have done with ED. However if my hypothesis is correct and there is a station named something like “Raxxla Gateway” then it could be the source of a permit unlock mission to open up an area with a third alien race (or the Guardian AI maybe); that would fit both the game mechanics and the essence of the original reference. That station might be orbiting a comet towards the outer rim of a bubble (or nearby) system making it extremely difficult to find.

Fdev have said raxxla has been "honked" !
Also there is now a guardian ai (he insists on being called skippy the magnificent) construct with a collectable "key" hhmmmmm
 

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Yeah, already saw that in this thread, but till now nobody posted a trusty link. So, for myself, no, FDevs never said Raxxla system has been honked.

All aboard the good ship cannon express for a one way ticket to raxxla !

The personnal journey to Raxxla trails just to the Gnosis docking yard. Then it becomes a package journey. " Dear Passengers, please pay attention to the crew for a safety demonstration" [haha]
Are we allowed to bring the children ? Pets ? Our own booze ? Aunt Juliet asks if there will be some of these so handsome Native Guides at disposal ? All inclusive ? Dr Arcanonn, may I call you Cpt Cook ?

However if my hypothesis is correct and there is a station named something like “Raxxla Gateway” then it could be the source of a permit unlock mission to open up an area...

"Jameson Memorial " was, to some extent, the first candidate. But since the E/F missions diasappeared...
If there was another system open to Elite Cmdrs only... could be it.
 
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Yeah, already saw that in this thread, but till now nobody posted a trusty link. So, for myself, no, FDevs never said Raxxla system has been honked.



The personnal journey to Raxxla trails just to the Gnosis docking yard. Then it becomes a collective journey. " Dear Passengers, please pay attention to the crew for a safety demonstration" [haha]
Are we allowed to bring the children ?

Only the children of raxxla lol.
And dont forget this liner is in the top 1% of its class
 
Still couldn't help but immediately think of Raxxla when those Guardian Beacons gave a "Ancient Key".

It's interesting.

Using the word 'key' for this thing and calling the Guardian AI 'Constucts', are deliberate choices from FD.

It could be a deliberate hint or a deliberate decoy. We don't know?

Could be one of the most compelling arguments I've seen in a while. Who knows? Perhaps Raxxla is the Guardian's home world?
 
Fdev have said raxxla has been "honked" !
Also there is now a guardian ai (he insists on being called skippy the magnificent) construct with a collectable "key" hhmmmmm


Ahhhh im nearly done with book 4 everytime i have voice attack on I imagine it's skippy asking me if I want a banana
 
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