The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Jorki Rasalas]

Noob here! I've just started playing elite and have been lurking in this and the alien threads for a bit. After watching some of the videos describing how alien bases were found, what jumped out to me was the statement that "it should be obvious" where Raxxla is. When looking at the galaxy map today I notice a galactic region called Izanami and thought "lovers woe". Could the initial paragraph be pointing us towards Raxxla? After discussing with some squad mates we found an area that might be worth checking out. "The parent's grief" could refer to Achillies Altar and the story of Achillies killing hector and the grief it brought to King Param. "The lovers woe" could refer to Lyra's song. Lyra is derived from lyre. If you read about Orpheus, he was taught to play the lyre by Apollo and, when his wife Eurydice died, he played a song so sad the nymphs and gods wept. Hades even allowed him the chance to take his wife back from the underworld. Orpheus also traveled with the Argonauts on a quest, this just after Eurydice has died which captures the line "the yearning of our vagabond hearts". And in referring to the underworld and the "darkest void" Xibalba sits just below these two galactic regions. The underworld ruled by Mayan death gods. There is also a line "the siren of the deepest void" which would place more meaning on the story of the lyre and Orpheus being right next to the underworld. If you look where these three sections merge there is a lot of empty space but we were able to find a system PLAE EUR UE-R D4-0. Maybe something? If not, the names of the galactic regions tie in quite a bit to the text in the toast of Raxxla so there maybe a way to triangulate the location.

Well if you’re going down the greek mytholgy route then don’t forget Agamemnon had to kil his daughter Iphigenia for killing a deer in a forest grove sacred to the goddess Artemis; that would relate to parent’s grief.....

 

[Scytale]

Having such network of gateways would indeed mean something for developing humanity out of the bubble.
With one of those gateways being somewhere inside the bubble.

That's exactly what Oolite's Raxxla is. Iirc.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Ok! A few Things:

1). Whats the deal with Lave 2? Every now and again i see it mentioned along with the Raxxla mystery by some CMDRs. As though its somehow connected. Yet i've never found anything that suggests it has anything to do with it. I know that the author of "Lave Revolution" requested Fdev to permit lock the planet for some reason. I read that whole book and found nothing. I've read somewhere else from one CMDR that Lave 2 ether was, is, or replaced Raxxla, according to them. Was Lave 2 connected to the Raxxla mystery in some book i haven't read?

2). When mentioning Raxxla possibly being close to the bubble, there seem to be something that gets continually forgotten: THE QUIRIUM DRIVES EXISTED! http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperdrive#cite_note-:0-2 & https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/586f796c9657ba3357039d07 these drive were said, once engineered, "to jump across the galaxy or even to other galaxies"!
Yes i'm aware that the official first mentioning of Raxxla was in 2296, and that its implied that the legend was already in circulation before. BUT! To believe that it is close to the bubble one has to assume that A.) Raxxla is stationary and not mobile. And B.) Nothing from Raxxla made travel to and from it possible BEFORE faster hyperspace travel was even available to the rest of the galaxy. The Quirium Drive fuel secret HAD to come from somewhere as well!

In Drew Wagar’s Oolite series of fan fiction (not canon for E D!) Raxxla was a moon of Lave 2 that had the ability to disappear into hyperspace. It disappeared! Also in E D there was a bug that prevented you from landing at one of the moons (or was it an asteroid?).

 

[Ulaidian]

I have to remind myself of this.. I have read pretty much everything written since the original game came out.

 

[Han_Zen]

In Drew Wagar’s Oolite series of fan fiction (not canon for E D!) Raxxla was a moon of Lave 2 that had the ability to disappear into hyperspace. It disappeared! Also in E D there was a bug that prevented you from landing at one of the moons (or was it an asteroid?).

I think the codex puts Raxxla way earlier than Lave or any of the original Elite or The Dark Wheel(the book) events.

 

[CyberTribe]

Noob here! I've just started playing elite and have been lurking in this and the alien threads for a bit. After watching some of the videos describing how alien bases were found, what jumped out to me was the statement that "it should be obvious" where Raxxla is. When looking at the galaxy map today I notice a galactic region called Izanami and thought "lovers woe". Could the initial paragraph be pointing us towards Raxxla? After discussing with some squad mates we found an area that might be worth checking out. "The parent's grief" could refer to Achillies Altar and the story of Achillies killing hector and the grief it brought to King Param. "The lovers woe" could refer to Lyra's song. Lyra is derived from lyre. If you read about Orpheus, he was taught to play the lyre by Apollo and, when his wife Eurydice died, he played a song so sad the nymphs and gods wept. Hades even allowed him the chance to take his wife back from the underworld. Orpheus also traveled with the Argonauts on a quest, this just after Eurydice has died which captures the line "the yearning of our vagabond hearts". And in referring to the underworld and the "darkest void" Xibalba sits just below these two galactic regions. The underworld ruled by Mayan death gods. There is also a line "the siren of the deepest void" which would place more meaning on the story of the lyre and Orpheus being right next to the underworld. If you look where these three sections merge there is a lot of empty space but we were able to find a system PLAE EUR UE-R D4-0. Maybe something? If not, the names of the galactic regions tie in quite a bit to the text in the toast of Raxxla so there maybe a way to triangulate the location.

Bookmarked that one, gonna check it too after coming back from Formidine rift and Zurara.

One point, that doesn't fit into your theory from that DW toast:
Where's "Whisperer in witchspace"?

 

[Han_Zen]

One point, that doesn't fit into your theory from that DW toast:
Where's "Whisperer in witchspace"?

It’s in witchspace, isn’t it?

 

[Thatchinho]

2). When mentioning Raxxla possibly being close to the bubble, there seem to be something that gets continually forgotten: THE QUIRIUM DRIVES EXISTED!

Had to laugh at this. I've talked about the previous drive tech so many times I've got tired of mentioning it.

these drive were said, once engineered, "to jump across the galaxy or even to other galaxies"!

That's not exactly canon. It's from Drew's old lore page, not an official source. The Galnet article makes no mention of it, and I'm pretty sure there's no other in-game references. Also, when things 'were said' you have to factor in a huge amount of consideration that lots of things that 'were said' are actually not in any way true, or are huge distortions of what actually happened. (Which doesn't rule out the possibility that there is some truth in there of course! )

Yes i'm aware that the official first mentioning of Raxxla was in 2296, and that its implied that the legend was already in circulation before. BUT! To believe that it is close to the bubble one has to assume that A.) Raxxla is stationary and not mobile. And B.) Nothing from Raxxla made travel to and from it possible BEFORE faster hyperspace travel was even available to the rest of the galaxy.

In fairness, there's a difference between believing it is close to the bubble, and believing that the only possibility is that is close to the bubble. Not everyone saying the former is also saying the latter.

The Quirium Drive fuel secret HAD to come from somewhere as well!

It doesn't really though. It could have just been discovered/invented. Everything has to be discovered or invented first by someone/something. No reason that couldn't have been done by a human / humans.

 

[CyberTribe]

It’s in witchspace, isn’t it?

Yeah, i know, right?
So how de we find it/him/her?
Is is the same as Siren of the Deepest void, or is it something else?

Is that toast at all a path, or just a toast that means nothing?


It's just that if we try to fit something into some theory - we can't just ignore things that don't fit.
It should have a reson why it should be avoided.

 

[Han_Zen]

Yeah, i know, right?
So how de we find it/him/her?
Is is the same as Siren of the Deepest void, or is it something else?

Is that toast at all a path, or just a toast that means nothing?


It's just that if we try to fir something into some theory - we can't just ignore things that don't fit.
It should have a reson why it should be avoided.

I think the toast contains hints to what The Dark Wheel knows. They obviously don't know everything, as they haven't found Raxxla them self.
Interpreting the toast could help us part of the way, but not all the way.

I also think the whisper in witchspace and the siren of the deepest void is the same thing. It's the hyperspace sound we hear in every jump. The Raxxla portal probably makes the same sound. We might be able to hear it, farther away than we can see it?

 

[Scytale]

Yeah, i know, right?
So how de we find it/him/her?

First thing first, make sure you are wearing your

Spoiler

Sorry, bad joke...
Seriously, everything known for sure (?) is on the thread first page, reference [8] and the Codex. [yesnod]
Any other theory is as valid as any other until proven wrong.
Since the E/F missions disappeared, this thread is more an exercice de style than anything else ...
Have fun !

 

[CyberTribe]

I think the toast contains hints to what The Dark Wheel knows. They obviously don't know everything, as they haven't found Raxxla them self.
Interpreting the toast could help us part of the way, but not all the way.

I also think the whisper in witchspace and the siren of the deepest void is the same thing. It's the hyperspace sound we hear in every jump. The Raxxla portal probably makes the same sound. We might be able to hear it, farther away than we can see it?

Personally i think it's not the hints to what DW knows about Raxxla, but hints to how find/join DW in their hunt for Raxxla.

As for the Siren part, there might be a message, coded inside that sound.
Had no luck finding it using spectrum analisys in audacity, but someone might come up with a better idea.
Or simply that message might be played on some special occasion, like, jump in a special region, or from/to special system.
That's why i'm heading to formidine rift, Zurara and probably further into the void, those formidine rift sites do indeed mention strange sounds during witchspace jumps.

First thing first, make sure you are wearing your

Sorry, bad joke...
Seriously, everything known for sure (?) is on the thread first page, reference [8] and the Codex. [yesnod]
Any other theory is as valid as any other until proven wrong.
Since the E/F missions disappeared, this thread is more en exercice de style than anything else ...
Have fun !

Nah, that joke is great!
The only reason to play ED is having fun, so why not toss out some moe tinfoily ideas.
I'm just waiting for someone to get any positive confirmation that any of the theories being tossed out is right

 

[Scytale]

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I'm just waiting for someone to get any positive confirmation that any of the theories being tossed out is right

We are all waiting for TRealDW invitation... I bet.
Which reminds me someone has stated to get hostile with SD TDW faction.
If they are charlatans , fighting them could attract TRDW's attention. Up to a point. Maybe. Who knows ? Would be a fine FDevs trick, anyway !

Btw, Chupacabras is a SD faction iirc, and also a mexican Chimera... mmmhh...

 

[eadghe]

For me "whisper in witchspace" and "siren of the deepest void" is just a poetic way to describe the urge to travel in a world where traveling means doing jumps through something called witchspace. And the whole toast is just a toast, not some encoded guide. At least that's my opinion.

 

[CyberTribe]

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We are all waiting for TRealDW invitation... I bet.

Anyone tried hunting "FakeDW", in an attempt to get rid of them?
Like, what if those really are an imposter faction and you need to help real DW to get rid of them to really get that invite?
Of course they can do it themself, but helping them do it might just be the way.
To become a part of DarkWheel you need to act like you are a part of DarkWheel?

For me "whisper in witchspace" and "siren of the deepest void" is just a poetic way to describe the urge to travel in a world where traveling means doing jumps through something called witchspace. And the whole toast is just a toast, not some encoded guide. At least that's my opinion.

There's also that part of the CODEX article:

That part about "Fernweh" is exactly the feeling that you are talking about.

 

[Scytale]

Anyone tried hunting "FakeDW", in an attempt to get rid of them?
Like, what if those really are an imposter faction and you need to help real DW to get rid of them to really get that invite?
Of course they can do it themself, but helping them do it might just be the way.
To become a part of DarkWheel you need to act like you are a part of DarkWheel?

LoL, our posts with the same idea criss-crossed !
Keeps the thread alive, anyway.
Good!

So, from now on, I propose:

DW= Drew Wagar
TDW= The Dark Wheel , by R. Holdstock.
TRDW= The Real Dark Wheel organisation.
TFDW= The Fake Dark Wheel, Shirarta faction.

What a t-d-w mess ! [haha]

 

[CyberTribe]

LoL, our posts with the same idea criss-crossed !
Keeps the thread alive, anyway.
Good!

So, from now on, I propose:

DW= Drew Wagar
TDW= The Dark Wheel , by R. Holdstock.
TRDW= The Real Dark Wheel organisation.
TFDW= The Fake Dark Wheel, Shirarta faction.

What a t-d-w mess ! [haha]

Funy how ideas are the same.
It's either directly attacking, or trying to get rid of them through BGS, but for the latter we would need a rather big player group, and joining DW should be a personal quest, so must be the foremost - just directly fighting with them and making them your personal enemy.
Another thing to do after getting back to the bubble it seems.

 

[Eckee]

Is the minor faction TDW confirmed fake? If not, why do we assume so?
Why would TRDW care about the fake one? It's doing great job distracting people from themselves and the fake one is pretty weak so it's not a threat. TRDW is not trying to be on the spotlight.

TDW minor faction is not only in SD, it's also in LFT 926. I think this provides us great opportunity to make them the controlling faction and powerful since SD is hard coded and cannot be controlled by other factions. If it's fake and gains great power, only then TRDW will care about them and maybe make a move. If it's real, it will use its power to find Raxxla. I strongly think that finding Raxxla is only can be done with the help of TDW. It would make them so lame if we find Raxxla with their toast and some other rumors.

And then there's the Thargoid discovery. We didn't just find their bases and fight with them. We found the UAs, other clues, then Frontier added new clues and the story got deeper.
Also Raxxla is probably an atmospheric planet, so we cannot land on it and do stuff yet. And I don't want to see Raxxla or the device laying on the ground of a cold dead planet, like Guardian or Thargoid things do.

August 2018
Head of communications Zac Antonaci did provide some new details on the roadmap for Elite Dangerous in the year ahead.
“A while ago, our development went from pre-production into full production on our next major milestone of Elite development,” Antonaci wrote in the Friday post. “What that means in the simplest terms is that the team are actively working on the next major landmark which takes us into our next era for Elite.” - source and the longer story

Those new Lagrange Clouds behave exactly like clouds on planets. And from 2012^(link): David Braben talks about procedural generation and how to create clouds and vegetation, forests etc. Star Citizen also uses procedural generation technology to create cities.

IMHO we should find TDW or at least trigger its storyline. The only thing we really have is the minor faction and we must do something with them, maybe something come up. Frontier added "rumors" into codex and I assume they will use it. If TDW minor faction gets powerful it may trigger something, a crash site, listening post message or else that we can see in the rumors section. Then at the end of the storyline, after atmospheric landins implemented, we can find Raxxla.

Sorry for the rough language.

 

[xFaTal1]

Bookmarked that one, gonna check it too after coming back from Formidine rift and Zurara.

One point, that doesn't fit into your theory from that DW toast:
Where's "Whisperer in witchspace"?

Yea, the hypothesis doesn't really cover every line of the toast. I was really just looking for something obvious, something a noob would be able to figure out. After watching videos of all the hoops the community had to jump though to figure out past mysteries, the comment about it being obvious really stood out. Like"we're not going to make you digitize audio and look for a picture pointing you in a direction this time" lol. And, those names and stories are for the most part general knowledge you learn growing up. You don't have to know any ED lore, you dont have to read the books, just read the lines and look at your map. Then it was crazy something happened to actually be there in a part of the galaxy thats pretty empty.

 

[Scytale]

Is the minor faction TDW confirmed fake? If not, why do we assume so?
Why would TRDW care about the fake one? It's doing great job distracting people from themselves and the fake one is pretty weak so it's not a threat. TRDW is not trying to be on the spotlight.

Oh, was just a matter of speaking and thinking to new possibilities. I for myself have done hundreds of each type of mission for SD TDW, got allied with every single faction involved with TDW in the E/F missions from Ticushpakhi to Varati, and (almost) never experimented anything special or uncommon.
Just thought I could do the opposite as a mean to come back to this game as soon as I get bored of... "the others space games".
Now, if FDevs have changed their mind and are starting to provide clues about Raxxla... Then fine, be it.
And there is no "we" here. This is not a PG thread. Just independant Chimerae Hunters throwing in their own experiences and tinfoiling.
That personal journey thing...
We are totally disorganized ! We are not CoR, despite the thread being riddled with CoR moles!