I hope DW2 gets ganked all the way to Beagle Point.

Marcus Tullius

Marcus Tullius
Brrokk said:
I agree, I now think an Open-PvE mode is the only way forward after what we've read of the start of DW2. I used to be against this because disabling damage seems artificial and I preferred C&P and meaningful system security, but I now see that that's futile. If FD are watching this I hope that they'll take away the same lesson.

It could be done without much development effort. All damage is already tagged by source so that bounties, C&P, mission counts and "You were killed by..." messages can work. All that would be needed would be a final check that damage is from an allowed source before applying it.

It was a good try. Other games have also tried to avoid simple flagging, but finally been driven to having a PvE mode. In every case its been a successful and popular change. I hope FD are working on it (but I wouldn't expect them to say yet if they were).
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The Open PvE mode means a separate game. Since we share the same BGS, such separation will cut the opportunity of FD to implement cross platform and player’s controlled assets affected in open only. Not sure if such things will ever happen, but they will have more options to react according to players attitude to keep the game alive. In such case, the Open PvE wills double the expenses for game maintenance.
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
Der Zeitgeist said:
One should note that within the actual expedition, this whole ganker threat is mostly a complete non-issue. People asking about gankers in open are simply advised to stay in private groups (there's not just Fleetcomm, but several others) or solo and everyone is mostly happy with that.

Kill statistics for certain systems in open aren't really an issue, as everyone flying in open knows the risk by now.
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Shhh, don't tell 'em that. It's a big issue in Dangerous Discussion. That's all that matters :)

The reason the kill count is at that level is that there were thousands of signups in the last week. These fellers won't be as prepared, many just heard about it.
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Marcus Tullius said:
The Open PvE mode means a separate game. Since we share the same BGS, such separation will cut the opportunity of FD to implement cross platform and player’s controlled assets affected in open only. Not sure if such things will ever happen, but they will have more options to react according to players attitude to keep the game alive. In such case, the Open PvE wills double the expenses for game maintenance.
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Personally I think the open-only ship has sailed and I'd see Open, Open-PvE, PG and Solo all sharing the BGS.
 

Phazon Xenomorph

Phazon Xenomorph
Marcus Tullius said:
I remember the time when NPC ships attacked us from 1k l.y. distance from bubble if we had significant amount of exploration data onboard. Since them all my exploration ships are equipped with A-rated thrusters, distributors for at least one boost and chaff. Don’t know why, but FD removed these NPC’s and here we are – players are asking for safety Disneyland with pink clouds and silver unicorns. I watched few minutes of Hari’s stream. I’m sorry guys, but he was in full gimbal corvette. If anyone of you was with chaff and able to boost once, 99% of his victims would survive, having in mind that IMO FD has intentionally deployed the bug to not be mass locked by another player.
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While I'm by no means even decent at PvP in this game (compared to other games), I ONLY use fixed weapons exclusively. I HATE gimballed and turret weapons and would rather get more and more skillful and muscle memorized, with fixed. Sounds like that streamer needs to learn how to fly.
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Phazon Xenomorph said:
While I'm by no means even decent at PvP in this game (compared to other games), I ONLY use fixed weapons exclusively. I HATE gimballed and turret weapons and would rather get more and more skillful and muscle memorized, with fixed. Sounds like that streamer needs to learn how to fly.
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OK. I like big ships with turretted weapons; I think it's more plausible and immersive. Player choice is good.
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Gotta love DD - a thread with PvPers gloating over their n00b kills, and a load of experienced PvE players shaking their fists (and thus losing the forum PvP war)

Not much sign of any outraged ganked players, presumably because they completed the massive 1 jump to get back to the start and get on with the journey, now a little wiser :)
 

Phazon Xenomorph

Phazon Xenomorph
Toumal said:
Is it too late to ask for a saltshaker bobblehead?
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Oh my god its the space Orca....

I think the saltshaker bobblehead is in the salty water worlds we can't land on yet.

It'd go good with the alphabet letters, spell out "Gank Time" on the dashboard and end it with the Salt Shaker as a substitute punctuation mark
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
besieger said:
Want to meet up on Open? I will be at lavecon this year.
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You get a free hug regardless :)

Technically I'm still signed up for DWE2, but I am 6,000 LY from the Bubble and need to self destruct to get home. Which is fine by me. Demothballing the HOTAS and bolting it to the comfy chair takes effort though. If I can get myself rrr-ed to do that, kill away. Do you think it would be good therapy for certain CMDRs you are acquainted with, to first get a lot of frustration out of their system by killing Ziggy as many times as they like, followed by a hug? It could be a public service.
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
Old Duck said:
You are honorable! You could have kept that a secret and gotten an extra PS4 for free (at least a version of you in a parallel universe where I am filthy rich). I take back all the mean things I've said about you. Well, most of the mean things ;)
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Now where's the fun in that?

You old cheese eating surrender Duckie. :D
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
I'd wanna know what he looks like before I promise him a hug, what if I can't get my arms around him? Imagine his disappointment?
 

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Zoltah-Talion said:
Gosh, darn it. How can a person hope to come back against wit like that. i kinda like looking at all those pretty badges, don't stop explorers. all the space angels love you, they're singing you to Beagle Point. vindelanos, please, give us another of those barnstorming Shakespearean speeches now, I'm sitting comfortably and it's what you do best. Maybe even a video of you ripping teddy bears apart or something? That'd be cool. And you rock btw... clearly, so go club those seals fella, teach the universe a lesson!
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I'm trying man - I keep turning my video on or off at the wrong time, or forgetting to save my 10 minute playback.

But I'm headed back out there and will do my best to get some footage for you.
 
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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
I know it wouldn't happen, but it would be hilarious for the PvP crew to arrive at tne next major 'gathering' to find the prey have been sensible and stuck to PG & Solo.... I wonder if they'd play with themselves instead?
 
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