On page 322, CMDR GURU explains his groups findings, and so far I think they're the best source of Raxxla info thus far.

Everything has an incredible link to Greek mythology, including the Thargoid interceptors - named Cyclops, Basilisk, Medusa and Hydra, respectively. I think this is enough proof to say that the Thargoids and Raxxla are intertwined.

We also know that the only member of the Dark Wheel that we've heard of since 1984 is the former senator Kahina Tijani Loren, may she rest in peace. She was known to have stolen meta-alloys from Darnielle's Progress - forty something, if I remember correctly? Why would the Dark Wheel need meta-alloys?

Anyways, as I write this, I sit in my newly built Imperial Courier, the Seven Veils, with a pair of meta-alloys in my hold outside of a Thargoid surface site. Unsure of what to do from here on out, but I'll keep looking.

She wanted the MAs for Bill Turner in his effort to resurrect Thargoid technology- read chapter 23 of Elite Premonition
 
I would just like to mention Plato's 'Myth of Er'. It's a story of a guy that dies and is sent to the afterlife, but he wakes up again and is able to tell his story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_Er

On his journey he comes to: 'After four days they reached a place where they could see a shaft of rainbow light brighter than any they had seen before. After another day's travel they reached it. This was the Spindle of Necessity. Several women, including Lady Necessity, her daughters, and the Sirens were present.'

Lady Necessity is the primordial goddess Ananke, the mother of cosmos. She holds the Spindle of Necessity.


Her daughters, the Fates spins the spindle and on each rim there is a singing Siren.

The spindle represents the classical heavens, with earth at the senter and the planets, Luna, the Sun and the stars placed on different orbs.

The planets and stars are described as jewels set in orbs. Unfortunately the outer rim contains all the stars, so this doesn't limit the search area much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres

Ananke is a system in ED.

Another interesting alternative, all four of these fateful ladies are represnted within the galaxy map, all very close to one another, I'm on my way there now to try and triangulate a common central point. They do go by many names...

Ananke - Nyx - Themis
Lakhesis - Lachesis - Decima
Klotho - Clotho - Nona
Atropos - Atropus - Aisa - Morta
 
From the Codex, FTL was accomplished in the 22nd Century. The first recorded mention of Raxxla was in 2296 and is assumed the myth was already in circulation. That would mean Raxxla was discovered between 2100(?)-2296.

The Empire was starting to take shape in Achenar in the 2250's.
Tau Ceti was colonised in the 2100's via FTL.
The Dark Wheel has been around since the early days of interstellar travel.

It would be safe to assume that either Raxxla was discovered via megaship or discovered via early FTL expeditions post Tau Ceti.

So, Raxxla is in the bubble and was likely discovered pre-Achenar.

Now we know when Raxxla was likely found and a rough area of where it is. To narrow it down, I'd use the known non-FTL generation ships as an initial largest radius and then calculate where they would be from 2100 to 2250 to get an average distance from Sol. Then cross reference that data with uninhabited systems in that ring to get a refined search area.

If we don't find Raxxla, then we can rule out the generation ships as first contact and move on to all known colonisation attempts and expeditions from 2100 to 2250. A clue we have here is that Sirius Corp in the 24th Century lead the first fully corporate colonisation of Sirius. Which means that prior to the 2300's all expeditions were partly funded by the early Federation (barring Imperial influence post 2250). Since the Feds haven't tried to leverage Raxxla as a bargaining chip I'd say this theory is a bit thin.

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Also, the head of the Dark Wheel is a decendent of other heads of TDW, namely the Ryder family. They select the best and brightest of each generation of pilots to become members. It would make sense that the emphasis on generational selection would come from a group that possibly came from a generation ship, no? It would also explain the 'Dark Wheel' station as it would be a darkened gen-ship with a set of habitation rings.
 
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From the Codex, FTL was accomplished in the 22nd Century. The first recorded mention of Raxxla was in 2296 and is assumed the myth was already in circulation. That would mean Raxxla was discovered between 2100(?)-2296.

The Empire was starting to take shape in Achenar in the 2250's.
Tau Ceti was colonised in the 2100's via FTL.
The Dark Wheel has been around since the early days of interstellar travel.

It would be safe to assume that either Raxxla was discovered via megaship or discovered via early FTL expeditions post Tau Ceti.

So, Raxxla is in the bubble and was likely discovered pre-Achenar.

Now we know when Raxxla was likely found and a rough area of where it is. To narrow it down, I'd use the known non-FTL generation ships as an initial largest radius and then calculate where they would be from 2100 to 2250 to get an average distance from Sol. Then cross reference that data with uninhabited systems in that ring to get a refined search area.

If we don't find Raxxla, then we can rule out the generation ships as first contact and move on to all known colonisation attempts and expeditions from 2100 to 2250. A clue we have here is that Sirius Corp in the 24th Century lead the first fully corporate colonisation of Sirius. Which means that prior to the 2300's all expeditions were partly funded by the early Federation (barring Imperial influence post 2250). Since the Feds haven't tried to leverage Raxxla as a bargaining chip I'd say this theory is a bit thin.

Also, the head of the Dark Wheel is a decendent of other heads of TDW, namely the Ryder family. They select the best and brightest of each generation of pilots to become members. It would make sense that the emphasis on generational selection would come from a group that possibly came from a generation ship, no? It would also explain the 'Dark Wheel' station as it would be a darkened gen-ship with a set of habitation rings.

Not a bad theory there, though the Empire also uses familial descent, as did Walden (you could say his clones were his descendants) so I’m not fully convinced by your last paragraph.
 
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Here!


... and going down all along to 8 ? (Carcosa, Aldebaran <= anything to do with Berenice ?, nah .. Taurus.. near the Sisters)

I now think that figure 8 may be the Demiurge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

It's often painted as a lion with a snake body.

The Demiurge is a creator of the material cosmos in Platonic, Gnostic and to some degree Mithraic cosmology.

The Demiurge is not a creator from nothing, but one that crafts the material cosmos from the pre-existing eternal forms.

Plato has the Demiurge as a perfect(within his limited realm) being, while the Gnostics see him as imperfect and to some degree malevolent.

The Gnostic text Pistis Sophia, Yaldabaoth(Demiurge) has already sunk from his high estate and resides in Chaos, where, with his forty-nine demons, he tortures wicked souls in boiling rivers of pitch, and with other punishments . He is an archon with the face of a lion, half flame, and half darkness.

This seem to be the best fit for MBs image.
 
Also, the head of the Dark Wheel is a decendent of other heads of TDW, namely the Ryder family. They select the best and brightest of each generation of pilots to become members. It would make sense that the emphasis on generational selection would come from a group that possibly came from a generation ship, no? It would also explain the 'Dark Wheel' station as it would be a darkened gen-ship with a set of habitation rings.

Should we try getting Allied with the Ryder Revolutionary Party in Maia?
 

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Should we try getting Allied with the Ryder Revolutionary Party in Maia?

Named by a player/kickstarter, iirc. But I may be wrong.

I now think that figure 8 ...

Could be, of course.
But the entire 'quadrant' seems also to fit very well with the Lovecraftian characters and places. And MB is/was fan of that lore.
A specialist could name everyone of them. (Carcosa, Hastur, Byaykhees, and...)
 
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Wiki ? Nothing better ?
While the Witch certainly was a member (even 'High Priestess') of the cult, I keep thinking TDW was far above her reach. For me, she was nothing more than one of their instrument among many others.
But, anyway... Past times.

Oops, ninja'd by Pa Jorki ! [smile]

You’ve got to get up early to beat me mate; I think I’m about 7 hours ahead of your timezone! :D

(Even if I am currently in the Omega Nebula ;))

edit: seen some lovely sights between the first two DW2 waypoints, the organisers have set a nice route. This is my first organised expedition & it’s good fun. Fleet roster closes tomorrow or Friday so still time for anyone who wants to catch up!
 
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You’ve got to get up early to beat me mate; I think I’m about 7 hours ahead of your timezone! :D

Right (again), Pa ! I tend to forget that not everybody lives wearing shirt and short 24/7/365 ! :p

Raxxla has never jumped away.

Yeah. Well, nevertheless I like to think that "Raxxla", actually, is more the "Construct" than the planet where it sits. It might be "removable".
But don't pay too much attention to me. I just like the Oolite's concept of Raxxla...
 
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Right (again), Pa ! I tend to forget that not everybody lives wearing shirt and short 24/7/365 ! :p



Yeah. Well, nevertheless I like to think that "Raxxla", actually, is more the "Construct" than the planet where it sits. It might be "removable".
But don't pay too much attention to me. I just like the Oolite's concept of Raxxla...

Now imagine it will just be an ELW, with a tourist beacon in orbit with some random text about "there is a secret on the surface"... and nothing more :D
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Right (again), Pa ! I tend to forget that not everybody lives wearing shirt and short 24/7/365 ! :p



Yeah. Well, nevertheless I like to think that "Raxxla", actually, is more the "Construct" than the planet where it sits. It might be "removable".
But don't pay too much attention to me. I just like the Oolite's concept of Raxxla...

Alien artefact, ophalos rift, Mars relic.... You might be able to put it in your pocket. :D

Should be a definite place though, according to the codex.

According to Plato, each soul assigned to a star. I hope the personal journey doesn't mean we each have our own Raxxla. :eek:
 
Should I ever find Raxxla, I'm not sure whether to make it public or not.
It would just be too sad to see this thread, with all those nice tinfoiley ideas, come to a halt (like the Formidine Rift thread eg.)

So for now I leave just this here
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and want to give you the opportunity to learn something new, some german words in this case... so don't expect a translation from my side :D
This is from one of those Tip Offs I received, is quite funny and also leaves some space for new speculation.
 
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