The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Ko Shiji]

I found an interesting article on the stellar aspect of the Elysian mysteries: http://www.panix.com/~gblt/eleusislaturarev82b.pdf

So the article talks about the X (X marks the spot) formed by the intersection of the Milky Way and possibly the Solar System orbital plane (different interpretations of what plane actually). But, the article has a picture (Fig. 1) that clearly shows the plane of the ecliptic intersecting the Milky Way at one star at the "foot" of Castor of the Gemini constellation.

So here's the Gemini constellation:

And with the stars named:

"Tejat Posterior" would be the X mentioned in the article.

This website gives a meaning for the name Tejat Posterior (as "Back Foot") and also names the other stars in Gemini.

Note how Athena (the star) is IN the constellation of Gemini.


EDIT: Interestingly, Tejat Posterior A is a red giant, and the star surface has a texture that is only in parts "plasma" like the surface of a star. In fact, there are large areas of the star surface that are transparent, and I can see a smaller sphere of swirling plasma INSIDE the star. Tejat Posterior 1 A orbits at 780 LS from the star, but the star is big enough that the view looks a lot like the image posted under the Dark Wheel codex entry (see page 1 of this thread). In fact, looking at the surface of the star in that Dark Wheel image, I'm inclined to guess that it's a red giant, and not a red dwarf.

 

[Han_Zen]

So the article talks about the X (X marks the spot) formed by the intersection of the Milky Way and possibly the Solar System orbital plane (different interpretations of what plane actually). But, the article has a picture (Fig. 1) that clearly shows the plane of the ecliptic intersecting the Milky Way at one star at the "foot" of Castor of the Gemini constellation.

So here's the Gemini constellation:


And with the stars named:


"Tejat Posterior" would be the X mentioned in the article.

This website gives a meaning for the name Tejat Posterior (as "Back Foot") and also names the other stars in Gemini.

Note how Athena (the star) is IN the constellation of Gemini.


EDIT: Interestingly, Tejat Posterior A is a red giant, and the star surface has a texture that is only in parts "plasma" like the surface of a star. In fact, there are large areas of the star surface that are transparent, and I can see a smaller sphere of swirling plasma INSIDE the star. Tejat Posterior 1 A orbits at 780 LS from the star, but the star is big enough that the view looks a lot like the image posted under the Dark Wheel codex entry (see page 1 of this thread). In fact, looking at the surface of the star in that Dark Wheel image, I'm inclined to guess that it's a red giant, and not a red dwarf.

Both Teja Posterior, Teia Prior(propus) and Athena are well in the target area.
1 Geminorum (the third one on Castors foot), is closest to the galactic plane in the game. It also seem closest to the ecliptic.
I don’t think that kind of accuracy is relevant though. The dusty X is quite fat.

Jupiter is the dominant dust collector, so it probably has the most accurate plane for the Zodiacal dust cloud. But again, it’s quite fat. The general plane is probably fine.

The is of course another X in the southern hemisphere. That one is in Sagitarius, just a bit to he side of Sag A.

A few nice pics. and a good explanation of the phenomena: https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-resources/zodiacal-light-dust-thing-beauty101514/

 

[Eckee]

So the article talks about the X (X marks the spot) formed by the intersection of the Milky Way and possibly the Solar System orbital plane (different interpretations of what plane actually). But, the article has a picture (Fig. 1) that clearly shows the plane of the ecliptic intersecting the Milky Way at one star at the "foot" of Castor of the Gemini constellation.

So here's the Gemini constellation:


And with the stars named:


"Tejat Posterior" would be the X mentioned in the article.

This website gives a meaning for the name Tejat Posterior (as "Back Foot") and also names the other stars in Gemini.

Note how Athena (the star) is IN the constellation of Gemini.


EDIT: Interestingly, Tejat Posterior A is a red giant, and the star surface has a texture that is only in parts "plasma" like the surface of a star. In fact, there are large areas of the star surface that are transparent, and I can see a smaller sphere of swirling plasma INSIDE the star. Tejat Posterior 1 A orbits at 780 LS from the star, but the star is big enough that the view looks a lot like the image posted under the Dark Wheel codex entry (see page 1 of this thread). In fact, looking at the surface of the star in that Dark Wheel image, I'm inclined to guess that it's a red giant, and not a red dwarf.

Definately a good find. I feel like we're one step closer to what we are looking for, what it would look like.

 

[Cmdd_Legendie]

David Braben, Elite Dangerous and the search for Raxxla, i can't help but to be reminded of the film or book Ready Player One. How everyone is trying to find all the keys to riches unimaginable, and the way the first key was acquired was to do something nobody would think of doing because it didn't make sense in a race where winning is usually won by moving forward.

The difference is, even if someone here is on the correct path with their ideas, they wouldn't even know they were on the right path. Which is why I completely agree with that when someone do discover Raxxla, or discover the right path and they know it's the correct path, it'll be because Frontier allowed us to discover the correct path.

Personally like most, I believe it's within a mere several thousand light year radius of the bubble, perhaps the horse head region, but then again i do believe it's much closer and maybe probable that whoever discovered it's existence, reached Raxxla on a generation ship since that was to my knowledge the oldest and only form of long range space travel back then. Forgive me if it's been discussed a thousand times over but it's also good to visit old theories with new knowledge. I believe one of the first generation ships that was launched was named the Mayflower 97 that launched from the orbit of Luna in 2097

A while back I tried to calculate where it would be now based on it's slower then light speed and trajectory which would place it somewhere around 700Ly away from Sol I believe, and the oldest mention of Raxxla was in 2296, 199 years after the launch of the Mayflower and by the time of the first mention it already sounded like an old legend and interestingly enough? The first stop of the Mayflower was Tau Ceti…the same system that the codex mentioned Art Tornqvist and nothing was known of the ship and the crew after that, I know it's quite possible that it isn't canon to Elite Dangerous but because the legend of Raxxla was a legend at the time of the oldest recorded mention of it, makes me believe it wasn't just something they were looking at through telescopes back then but was reached by ships long before the first mention of it, by slower then light technology.

Edit: Also, someone by the name of CMDR Sol first calculated where the Mayflower would be based on it's speed. 700ly is just an estimate of where it could be if it didn't stop after Tau Ceti. Another mention in the codex was Delphi which a system was recently changed to that name in the Pleiades as we already know, which is about 350 Ly away from Tau Ceti. This is of course just connecting dots that may possibly not even have relations with each other.

 

[Noobilite]

I agree. I think calculating the distance of all things mentioned in game and other things as a minimal form of deduction is the best bet to finding it. It's most likely the easiest way to figure all of this out. It could be really interesting what is found. None of what could be found would surprise me. If raxxla is in the bubble those things should be number one on the list of things to figure or refigure out to try to find raxxla. It's stupid to not to figure those things out before moving to theories outside the bubble. Especially as it's easier hypothetically and probably helps deduce things related to ideas outside the bubble. Even if it's by just a little bit.

It could be that the way to find raxxla is to figure all of this stuff out and find oddities about it that can only be found by figuring the entire game out and leading us too it. I would think such a thing would intended for the entire game to work together and figure it out or individuals with enough knowledge to go through it all. Obviously more people working together would be easier. Especially if parts of it are things like scouring the 9999 FSP stations to figure something out about them. If everything in game needs to gone over completely there are blatantly things that would require the community as a whole to go over to figure out reasonably. Especially if it ever involved anything related to combat systems or ownership as it now is. Like if it's possible to make stations fed just to see its FSP number or something odd like that. Either way, you can't know it's not related until you go over it completely. Even assuming things based on lesser data could be wrong because the hint could be in the smallest of oddities requiring you to go over everything in game completely to find.

IE, everything in the game needs to be scoured completely and in absolute detail to potentially find raxxla. If not it would help quite a bit.

These have been posted before if I'm not mistaken, but:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...h-inhabitant?p=6413387&viewfull=1#post6413387
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/407558-Generation-Ships-All-you-need-to-know
https://canonn.science/codex/generation-ships/

BTW, this adds a proposed theory about why systems become permit locked.

Also, went to lave and read the first 'Tharg'oid encounter. Has anyone unraveled the whole THARG thing? Is it possible that is a clue to their origins. Maybe they are some secret weapons project. Does anyone have a picture of these THARG letters mentioned?

 

[Alexium67]

If any DW station exist in Tejat Posterior, it may be hidden in WSS. Minimal emissions - weak signal. But commonly there are many WSSs in the Bubble systems. We should looking for something stable in it placement.

 

[Eckee]

I agree. I think calculating the distance of all things mentioned in game and other things as a minimal form of deduction is the best bet to finding it. It's most likely the easiest way to figure all of this out. It could be really interesting what is found. None of what could be found would surprise me. If raxxla is in the bubble those things should be number one on the list of things to figure or refigure out to try to find raxxla. It's stupid to not to figure those things out before moving to theories outside the bubble. Especially as it's easier hypothetically and probably helps deduce things related to ideas outside the bubble. Even if it's by just a little bit.

It could be that the way to find raxxla is to figure all of this stuff out and find oddities about it that can only be found by figuring the entire game out and leading us too it. I would think such a thing would intended for the entire game to work together and figure it out or individuals with enough knowledge to go through it all. Obviously more people working together would be easier. Especially if parts of it are things like scouring the 9999 FSP stations to figure something out about them. If everything in game needs to gone over completely there are blatantly things that would require the community as a whole to go over to figure out reasonably. Especially if it ever involved anything related to combat systems or ownership as it now is. Like if it's possible to make stations fed just to see its FSP number or something odd like that. Either way, you can't know it's not related until you go over it completely. Even assuming things based on lesser data could be wrong because the hint could be in the smallest of oddities requiring you to go over everything in game completely to find.

IE, everything in the game needs to be scoured completely and in absolute detail to potentially find raxxla. If not it would help quite a bit.

These have been posted before if I'm not mistaken, but:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...h-inhabitant?p=6413387&viewfull=1#post6413387
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/407558-Generation-Ships-All-you-need-to-know
https://canonn.science/codex/generation-ships/

BTW, this adds a proposed theory about why systems become permit locked.

Also, went to lave and read the first 'Tharg'oid encounter. Has anyone unraveled the whole THARG thing? Is it possible that is a clue to their origins. Maybe they are some secret weapons project. Does anyone have a picture of these THARG letters mentioned?

I haven't noticed any letter-like symbols/scars on any interceptor ever. Those must be different kind of ships, as we committed genocide on them . I'll be looking for the hull details but I think that detail is just for the story of the naming.

 

[Garand1987]

Does anyone know if the thargoid base in Delphi is active, and if so, where does it say to go?

 

[Noobilite]

I was reading up on capital ship drives. Someone mentioned it might take weeks to jump. something also mentioned jaques and the gnosis. This got me thinking. Maybe this is related. The gnosis takes a week for reach destination. This could be the ships rev up time. I still need to go back to the gnosis and see if it's adding more destinations. It only had 2 left. Could raxxla be an old ship that has like a week to change destinations. Maybe we have to figure out how to find it and have a week or two each jump to catch up to it. Maybe it's a really old exploration base(With a pre publicly known form of jump drive.). It could be if we ever find the planets from the picture it's only it's starting destination or something. 8)

What does it mean the thargoid base is active? It has those canisters in it. I just didn't land to check them out because I was running an empty anaconda for exploration. I have yet to figure out how to use them for that. I'm still curious myself.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=capital+ships+jump+range

BTW, would congress in space be funny or scary? Would bureaucratic grade jump drives be of any use?

 

[Garand1987]

I was reading up on capital ship drives. Someone mentioned it might take weeks to jump. something also mentioned jaques and the gnosis. This got me thinking. Maybe this is related. The gnosis takes a week for reach destination. This could be the ships rev up time. I still need to go back to the gnosis and see if it's adding more destinations. It only had 2 left. Could raxxla be an old ship that has like a week to change destinations. Maybe we have to figure out how to find it and have a week each jump to catch up to it.

What does it mean the thargoid base is active? It has those canisters in it. I just didn't land to check them out because I was running an empty anaconda for exploration.

Enterable with an active map room. Some are collapsed and non enterable. I was just thinking since Omphalos is mentioned and Delphi has been renamed at the same time, the thargoid base is really the only thing there that would point us ‘somewhere’. The Omphalos rift is supposedly housed at Raxxla, and the only other Omphalos connection we know of is Delphi. Thinking maybe Delphi will at least point us in a beginning direction if there’s coordnance to be had from the base there.

 

[Noobilite]

I just found this also, Maybe finding all the tourists beacons will help somehow. Maybe scouring all in game data is, again, going to help. This all sounds like previous data. I think it's been mentioned specifically actually:

We might just have to collect all this info and put it together. It is interestingly a cobraMKIII.

Is tourist beacon data stored in the codex or anything after reading it?

I also just noticed something else. People from different locations have very obvious and destinct clothing color. I wonder if color can be a giveaway to something. Notice that raxxla is green. Like when allied.

 

[Garand1987]

I just found this also, Maybe finding all the tourists beacons will help somehow. Maybe scouring all in game data is, again, going to help. This all sounds like previous data. I think it's been mentioned specifically actually:



We might just have to collect all this info and put it together. It is interestingly a cobraMKIII.

Is tourist beacon data stored in the codex or anything after reading it?

Yeah this was the old lady’s cobra that Salomé had spoken about. This info lead to the discovery of the Formanide Rift. Interestingly the answer to the riddle was the Andromeda constellation between the heart and soul nebulae. So Andromeda lead the way to the Rift. I think looking at the Cassiopeia constellation directly for clues is a mistake. I think the jewel on the brow of Cassiopeia spoken about is the Andromeda constellation. It sits off the face of Cassiopeia, Andromeda fits the description of the parents greif and the lovers woe, and she was the siren that called us to travel the void. I’ve been to Alpheratz, the head of Andromeda recently. Nothing there but a double star system and a metric ton of degraded emissions. But I’d like to check the rest of the stars in the constellation.

 

[Garand1987]

I’ve also been starting to go through all the catalogued GalNet articles. There was mention, I think by DB, that some hint had been dropped in an obscure GalNet quite a long time ago that no one had noticed. Maybe I’ll come across something. It’ll take a while to go through them all tho.

 

[Noobilite]

Jewel in the crown makes me think of one interesting thing. There is a nebula that when looked at from earth or especially near heart and sole nebula always has a distinct dot on it. I think it's BD+55 191 in NGC 281 past heart and sole nebulas. It has a distinctive blue dot always visible in it.(the above mentioned system BD+55 191)And that system has a unique name and one landable planet. I did not surface explore it though. Maybe it has something on it.

Is that system related to anything known about formadine or anything?

Also, there don't seem to be a lot of these BD+XX systems. Maybe they are significant in themselves.

 

[Garand1987]

Jewel in the crown makes me think of one interesting thing. There is a nebula that when looked at from earth or especially near heart and sole nebula always has a distinct dot on it. I think it's BD+55 191 in NGC 281 past heart and sole nebulas. It has a distinctive blue dot always visible in it.(the above mentioned system BD+55 191)And that system has a unique name and one landable planet. I did not surface explore it though. Maybe it has something on it.

Is that system related to anything known about formadine or anything?

Not that I’m aware of. The Zurara I think is the only thing found there of note. DW was adamant that the FR mystery didn’t boil down to just a POI, but once the Zurara was found a lot of people stopped looking there assuming the whole thing was over with. I think there’s prolly something else to be found there although that’s just speculation. And if there is idk if it would be in any way related to Raxxla, or if it would be related to The Club, etc.

 

[Noobilite]

BTW, there is a very interesting set of 2mass systems on the way to heart and sole. I never finished exploring them. They are next to a Cassiopeia star and one named MD 50 or something. I don't remember the spelling. They have some pretty unique system layouts and are a very visible star cluster on the way to heart and sole.

 

[Garand1987]

Hm. I’ll have to take a gander when I’m done with Andromeda later. Don’t happen to remember if any had a gas giant with 8 or more moons do ya?

 

[Noobilite]

it varied. But there were non 2mass or IC 1805 all around them. There probably is. I need to go back that way and finish exploring them. Need to get some engineering stuff finished on my ship though so I can get max jump range from Jamesons life support mod.

I also noticed something else. The tourist beacons are numbered. That one was 0676 I think. That means there is similar potential limit as the FSP stations. I wonder if it's a separate list or one big list using a max of 9999 assets.

Edit: It's near KM Cassiopeia and MWC 50. Also, if you want to see a cool system go to IC 1805 Sector EQ-Y E4. There is also an odd black hole nebula system at IC 1805 Sector DQ-Y E3 very near by to it.

The planets could be closer together for cool up close shots, but the system is pretty cool looking on it's own!

BTW, MWC 50 has one brown dwarf with 8 planets and a moon. So technically 9.

 

[Garand1987]

it varied. But there were non 2mass all around them. There probably is. I need to go back that way and finish exploring them. Need to get some engineering stuff finished on my ship though so I can get max jump range from Jamesons life support mod.

I also noticed something else. The tourist beacons are numbered. That one was 0676 I think. That means there is similar potential limit as the FSP stations. I wonder if it's a separate list or one big list using a max of 9999 assets.

Edit: It's near KM Cassiopeia and MWC 50. Also, if you want to see a cool system go to IC 1805 Sector EQ-Y E4. There is also an odd black hole nebula system at IC 1805 Sector DQ-Y E3 very near by to it.

The planets could be closer together for cool up close shots, but the system is pretty cool looking on it's own!

That’s a neat system. Deff could result in some nifty shots.

 

[Uncoupledlight9]

Not that I’m aware of. The Zurara I think is the only thing found there of note. DW was adamant that the FR mystery didn’t boil down to just a POI, but once the Zurara was found a lot of people stopped looking there assuming the whole thing was over with. I think there’s prolly something else to be found there although that’s just speculation. And if there is idk if it would be in any way related to Raxxla, or if it would be related to The Club, etc.

For the first time I have just taken a trip through the Formadine Rift as well as visiting the settlements on the return to the Heart and Soul Nebulas.

After reading the transmissions at the various sites I came away thinking that there has to be something else to find in this location and the repetition in key phrases has got to be more than just a coincidence.

Spoiler

FORMIDINE RIFT ALPHA MISSION 5/6
Expedition Log: 07/10/3270

“I’m scared… help me someone… I can’t bear another jump. The lights in witch-space are coming for me, the lights… always the lights… they’re calling to me… a siren song… I must join them…”

I also just wanted to say that the level of detail and input within this thread is incredible and even if Raxxla remains a mystery, it makes for continuous interesting reading.

Keep up the good work!