The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jaiotu said:
The Medallion absolutely did belong to Kahina. This was confirmed in chapter 15 of Premonition. During her trial when Gerrun had the medallion brought forward as evidence Kahina was surprised that they had it. From the relevant part of the book:



Furthermore the novel reveals the origin of the symbol:



Of course Premonition also throws some shade toward The Dark Wheel as a minor faction in Shinrarta Dhezra. From the same chapter:



Now, assuming all this is canon and that Rebecca was being honest, she also gives a good description of just who The Dark Wheel are:



Don't be surprised that The Dark Wheel is operating in diverse places and through organizations that you would never suspect.

Everything is connected. These passages from Premonition are some of the few, very rare, canon references to The Dark Wheel. We shouldn't ignore them but we also shouldn't put too much stock in them. Now that we have the Codex we have some genuine in-game hints that we can follow.

The novella, The Dark Wheel, which started this (so far) fruitless quest for Raxxla contained a great quote from Rafe Zetter:



This sounds very much like "The Club" from Premonition. Perhaps this gives us the best understanding of what is symbolized by the 'Dark Wheel Medallion'. The reptilian creature (representing The Dark Wheel and, perhaps also the original Raxxlans), locked in combat against the establishment (The Pilots Federation) which may ultimately be a pawn of The Club.
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Ah thanks J, I’d forgotten Premonition, and don’t remember that revelation at all. Must read the books again. Want my young clone Tyko to revisit these mysteries, after he’s got his ships engineered.

Mmm, being pedantic how do we know that woman talking about TDW was Rebecca? I always thought she was Alessia Verdi, especially since it was hinted somewhere she was Luko’s daughter and Luko may have been TDW. If Salomé was involved in TDW then he probably inducted her.

[edit: just checked in Premonition. The spiky-haired woman was aboard Rebecca’s ship, the old cobra “Cor Meum Et Animam” at Tionisla graveyard but so was Rebecca-the old lady Salomé had met in the hospital. So the spiky-haired woman is in TDW, not (necessarily) Rebecca. Since she was clearly associated with Rebecca I assumed she was another clone?]

You could be right in that the reptilian creature on the medallion is representative of the original Raxxlans, but I thought it was fan fiction with no basis in lore? Didn’t someone own up to being the designer? If it was DW then I could be convinced that it’s related, but I still think TDW lost (according to AHTW never had?) the location of Raxxla, so the Codex TDW toast is far more likely to lead to their hidden base station, and not to Raxxla.

and since we’re considering lore then as TDW’s symbol is a wyvern or a dragon surrounding the Elite symbol which I believe someone said is a griffin. Anyone know any lore about that combination of mythical beasts?

@Scytalle- are you sure the psychoninjapenguin actually left? You never know where ninjas are!
 
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Garand1987

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Jorki Rasalas said:
This thread is wandering away from its subject. I don’t understand why people think Salomé or Rebecca were members of TDW, nor why this is continually coming up in a thread dedicated to finding Raxxla. The medallion that Salomé left behind may, or may not, have been from TDW, but if it was hers she left it behind which signified she was not involved with them; later Aisling used it to frame Salomé by using it against her at the “trial” but it was clearly reported in Galnet that it had been left behind in her ship so how can it have been her’s. Moreover nobody has ever proved that it belonged to Salomé in the first place-anyone could have left it in her ship, and to my mind quite possibly Luko, or Aisling, or .......

I thought Rebecca was involved with the Club; they were the ones behind the Dynasty plot that she helped Salomé to reveal. Why do people think that Club and TDW are the same? DW has clearly said they are different organisations.

DW has also clearly said that he had nothing to do with the Raxxla storyline & he has no idea where or what it is. FD invented the Club and asked him to include it in his FRift storyline, so they had some intentions for that organisation. Whether that is still the case remains open to speculation since we get such veiled hints through Galnet with apparently no confirmatory evidence available to be found in-game.

Come on people, keep it relevant else the moderators will close the thread. If you want to speculate further on FRift and Club generate a new thread for the purpose.
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I think TDW come up a lot, and I only bing it up, because potential information about Raxxla would be immensely helpful. And TDW is about the only hope for that beyond the codex.
 

CMDR Poet Starwind

CMDR Poet Starwind
I was of the mindset that TDW toast was a "map" to where their dark station or Raxxla was located, but what if it's the view from either of those places?

Seems more secretive if it's more of a "you made it!" than a "go here".

But again, without further clues it could be either interpretation.

Guru was back on Twitter, did the CMDR join in the forum again as well?
 

Garand1987

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CMDR Poet Starwind said:
I was of the mindset that TDW toast was a "map" to where their dark station or Raxxla was located, but what if it's the view from either of those places?

Seems more secretive if it's more of a "you made it!" than a "go here".

But again, without further clues it could be either interpretation.

Guru was back on Twitter, did the CMDR join in the forum again as well?
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He’s been about.
I’ve been wondering if Delphi isn’t the point from which we are supposed view these things. Delphi being the ‘center’ and all.
 

Jaymundo87

Jaymundo87
Jaiotu said:
Uh oh! We're about to have a schism! ;)

Who's gonna follow Neptune and who's gonna follow Oberon? :p

Honestly ... we're talking about Raxxla here. In the "Lore & Roleplay" section of the forum. Raxxla is nothing if you separate it from its lore. :)
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Of course, what I meant was more along of the lines of let's not argue about who is TDW who The Club etc and let's actively search all theories, I could have worded it better :)
 

CMDR Poet Starwind

CMDR Poet Starwind
Anyone find anything useful by overlapping TDW symbol onto the Raxxla symbol? I tried it but nothing. Even inverting the symbol didn't reveal anything but space madness.
 

Mr House Wins

Mr House Wins
CMDR Poet Starwind said:
I was of the mindset that TDW toast was a "map" to where their dark station or Raxxla was located, but what if it's the view from either of those places?

Seems more secretive if it's more of a "you made it!" than a "go here".

But again, without further clues it could be either interpretation.

Guru was back on Twitter, did the CMDR join in the forum again as well?
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I honestly believe the Dark Wheel toast is just that, a toast. It's meaning to me sounds more like a toast to the explorers who search for Raxxla and the people who have lost loved ones in the search. I think it's just a bit of lore fodder and not much else. They did say that there would be no clues.
 

Caliber_az

Caliber_az
Jorki Rasalas said:
Come on people, keep it relevant else the moderators will close the thread. If you want to speculate further on FRift and Club generate a new thread for the purpose.
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This made me spit my coffee on my keyboard. As crazy as the Mods are around here I doubt that there is one who is crazy enough to try and moderate this thread for subject matter.

Not even the Mad Hatter could wade through this subject matter.

The tinfoil is waist deep at the shallow end. Those who go to the deep end never return.

Caliber
 

Garand1987

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CMDR Poet Starwind said:
Anyone find anything useful by overlapping TDW symbol onto the Raxxla symbol? I tried it but nothing. Even inverting the symbol didn't reveal anything but space madness.
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I have not. I still really wonder if overlaying TDW symbol with the galmap, since the center of TDW symbol is the same shape as the Core region of the new GalMap, and other parts of it seem to line up as well. I just don’t have the software to do it myself.
 

Ko Shiji

Ko Shiji
The Dark Wheel image on page 1...

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... looks like a ship, not a station. Compare to this, recently posted images of generation ship Odysseus, orbiting Ross 859 B 1. The thickness of the Dark Wheel "station" ring and structure elements look like the last ring of the ship. And even the star looks similar.
 

Garand1987

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Ko Shiji said:
The Dark Wheel image on page 1...



... looks like a ship, not a station. Compare to this, recently posted images of generation ship Odysseus, orbiting Ross 859 B 1. The thickness of the Dark Wheel "station" ring and structure elements look like the last ring of the ship. And even the star looks similar.
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True. And even tho their base is described as a disused starport, Jacques is also a starport but really is also a ship. TDW base could be along the same lines. I doubt it would be this easy, but Jacques was found when someone happened upon a system marked as populated in the Colonia region where no one should have been. And Jacques was also running on low power, albeit unintentionally. Maybe I’ll scan around where we’ve been looking currently, and also the Void region and see if anything pops up.
 

yelboc

yelboc
As I mentioned before TDW dont know where it is as finding Raxxla "is their principle aim" -says so in the codex... but they might have a few clues to raxxla if you can prise them out of them..

Want to get their attention? Felicity farseer told us how.. set up a scam organisation claiming to be the DW, and they should come looking for you...

can you still create player minor factions? if not, whats the next best thing..


YB
 

Count dEstard

Count dEstard
For what it‘s worth: A few days ago I was experimenting a bit with the Raxxla symbol.

Due to its hexagonal shape it is possible to draw six sided stars a.k.a. Star of David or Solomons Seal into both Hexagons. The result adds some kind of 3 dimensional effect to the symbol making it look like a six sided tube sealed at both ends with the six pointed star.

Now King Solomon was said to have controlled demons using his seal. This made me think the 3 dimensional construction could symbolize a sealed container making me further think of Pandoras box.

There are no Pandora Systems on EDSM. I found only Pandemonium and Pandra. I then remembered CMDR Guru‘s advice about Wiki and Google and googled the Stations in those systems. The stations in Pandemonium are named after a German Theologist, a Japanese Astronomer, „Siddha“ which may be short for Siddharta and finally with „Zaschka“ a German last name that only means someone from Zatschke a place in Germany somewhere near nowhere.

The Stations in Pandra are all named after scientists. So guess this leads nowhere, but I‘m not willing to give up on my Pandora theory. One of course could look up systems with names relating to king Solomon like Zion or Moria/Morea.

Another thought: The Solomon part takes me back to Ishtar and Tammuz. Here is why: In Masonry at a certain degree the legend of the murder of Hiram Abiff is being told. As it is historically obscure who this Hiram might have been (several are mentioned concerning the construction of the temple of Solomon) and there is no mention of that particular myth in the holy book JSM Ward tried to find out who this particular Hiram might have been (JSM Ward: Who was Hiram Abiff - I own a copy of it). He deduced it could have been the father of Hiram of Tyrus (he sent builders and materials to Solomon) who got sacrificed to make the temple to stand strong. He also analyzed some of the Visions of Henoch deducing that there might have been lower chamber beneath the temple of Solomon where Astarte and Tammuz were shipped.

So this is longish and I have no idea where it might lead if anywhere. I just wanted to let you take part on my thoughts.

Edit: The masonic myth is basically about the loss of the Tetragrammaton, which ist the word of creation. Dan Browns novel „The lost Symbol“ covers this at least a bit. And for those afraid: This is not spilling the arcane. There are several BBC documentaries that exactly tell the story of Hiram Abiff. I have been btw to „Hirams Rest“ in Shibboleth and found nothing special.
 
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Alexium67

Alexium67
Pandora was the first woman created by Hephaestus by order of Zeus. There was her daughter - Pyrrha. Far system in Colonia if I'm right.
 
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