In which case, maybe it would also be some kind of henge with astronomical alignments.
Ah thanks J, I’d forgotten Premonition, and don’t remember that revelation at all. Must read the books again. Want my young clone Tyko to revisit these mysteries, after he’s got his ships engineered.
Mmm, being pedantic how do we know that woman talking about TDW was Rebecca? I always thought she was Alessia Verdi, especially since it was hinted somewhere she was Luko’s daughter and Luko may have been TDW. If Salomé was involved in TDW then he probably inducted her.
[edit: just checked in Premonition. The spiky-haired woman was aboard Rebecca’s ship, the old cobra “Cor Meum Et Animam” at Tionisla graveyard but so was Rebecca-the old lady Salomé had met in the hospital. So the spiky-haired woman is in TDW, not (necessarily) Rebecca. Since she was clearly associated with Rebecca I assumed she was another clone?]
You could be right in that the reptilian creature on the medallion is representative of the original Raxxlans, but I thought it was fan fiction with no basis in lore? Didn’t someone own up to being the designer? If it was DW then I could be convinced that it’s related, but I still think TDW lost (according to AHTW never had?) the location of Raxxla, so the Codex TDW toast is far more likely to lead to their hidden base station, and not to Raxxla.
and since we’re considering lore then as TDW’s symbol is a wyvern or a dragon surrounding the Elite symbol which I believe someone said is a griffin. Anyone know any lore about that combination of mythical beasts?
@Scytalle- are you sure the psychoninjapenguin actually left? You never know where ninjas are!
The Dark Wheel image on page 1...
... looks like a ship, not a station. Compare to this, recently posted images of generation ship Odysseus, orbiting Ross 859 B 1. The thickness of the Dark Wheel "station" ring and structure elements look like the last ring of the ship. And even the star looks similar.
Amphitheater
(from the 1st purged *lore* book)
The Odysseus ship definitely has the 6 bars and 3 outer lines in the raxxla image. One of the bars is behind the center pylon. It has the same 3 partial circles like in the system map reticule... I think this is a fairly good match for the raxxla image. and Odysseus fits the greek names and stuff.
The middle bigger circles are cut in 6. The outer ones in 3. Both with the 3 partial circles. And manh parts of it look like the circle with a dot. The whole front does. Where is this ship supposed to going. And do other gen ships look like this?
Edit: If you turn off flight assist near the odysseus you start to get pulled towared the middle of the planets. I think it has a gravity well. I can't get to the front of the ship to take a pic directly at the nose because of this. That or they have a tractor beam on the ship to push me away. I'm at 2x my max speed and climbing going towards the center of gravity between the planets. I wonder if it can use this to sling shot back to higher speeds. It also seems you don't go above 500 when being pulled by gravity. Or at least not at this location.
BTW, the back of this thing make sit look like the ship that KSP built. STacking and all.
Can you post better pictures of it as an imgur album if you're near the site? From different angles like, front, back, from any side etc.
Ah thanks J, I’d forgotten Premonition, and don’t remember that revelation at all. Must read the books again. Want my young clone Tyko to revisit these mysteries, after he’s got his ships engineered.
Mmm, being pedantic how do we know that woman talking about TDW was Rebecca? I always thought she was Alessia Verdi, especially since it was hinted somewhere she was Luko’s daughter and Luko may have been TDW. If Salomé was involved in TDW then he probably inducted her.
[edit: just checked in Premonition. The spiky-haired woman was aboard Rebecca’s ship, the old cobra “Cor Meum Et Animam” at Tionisla graveyard but so was Rebecca-the old lady Salomé had met in the hospital. So the spiky-haired woman is in TDW, not (necessarily) Rebecca. Since she was clearly associated with Rebecca I assumed she was another clone?]
You could be right in that the reptilian creature on the medallion is representative of the original Raxxlans, but I thought it was fan fiction with no basis in lore? Didn’t someone own up to being the designer? If it was DW then I could be convinced that it’s related, but I still think TDW lost (according to AHTW never had?) the location of Raxxla, so the Codex TDW toast is far more likely to lead to their hidden base station, and not to Raxxla.
and since we’re considering lore then as TDW’s symbol is a wyvern or a dragon surrounding the Elite symbol which I believe someone said is a griffin. Anyone know any lore about that combination of mythical beasts?
@Scytalle- are you sure the psychoninjapenguin actually left? You never know where ninjas are!
IF the central circle of the Raxxla icon is Sol
How to interpret the rest of the drawing ?
And about Hermes, he also gave his magic shoes to Perseus (as asked by Athena) who then could fly to save Andromeda.
What a mess... But more stuff in the line of Mercury and the witchspace.
Imgur Album.
Image 1 shows how close the two planets (Ross 859 B 1,2) are to each other and to the star. The ship orbits planet 1, and in theory it would be possible to get planet 2 between the ship and the star, similar to the Dark Wheel shot, but unfortunately the ship's engines seem to always point towards planet 1, and it's impossible to get just the engine section and planet 2 pointing at the star, without the close surface of planet 1 showing.
The ship is within the orbital flight radius of planet 1 (orbital flight UI activates). Best way to take screenshots is to set your ship horizontal to the surface of planet 1 (hover mode), and then fly around with the camera. Ross 859 B 1 is a 1g world, so trying to fly your ship around to take screenshots is as difficult as landing on a high-g world.
EDIT: There are multiple other images of it; Canonn has some, the wiki has a 360 movie with the logs as sound, and I've seen a couple youtube videos.
And early I mentioned another thing near tionisla or something. It was the beacon about the partially decripted message and the thing about a women riding a giraffe. Has anyone fit that into the sonnets or found anything that could be referencing?
For what it‘s worth: A few days ago I was experimenting a bit with the Raxxla symbol.
Due to its hexagonal shape it is possible to draw six sided stars a.k.a. Star of David or Solomons Seal into both Hexagons. The result adds some kind of 3 dimensional effect to the symbol making it look like a six sided tube sealed at both ends with the six pointed star.
Now King Solomon was said to have controlled demons using his seal. This made me think the 3 dimensional construction could symbolize a sealed container making me further think of Pandoras box.
There are no Pandora Systems on EDSM. I found only Pandemonium and Pandra. I then remembered CMDR Guru‘s advice about Wiki and Google and googled the Stations in those systems. The stations in Pandemonium are named after a German Theologist, a Japanese Astronomer, „Siddha“ which may be short for Siddharta and finally with „Zaschka“ a German last name that only means someone from Zatschke a place in Germany somewhere near nowhere.
The Stations in Pandra are all named after scientists. So guess this leads nowhere, but I‘m not willing to give up on my Pandora theory. One of course could look up systems with names relating to king Solomon like Zion or Moria/Morea.
Another thought: The Solomon part takes me back to Ishtar and Tammuz. Here is why: In Masonry at a certain degree the legend of the murder of Hiram Abiff is being told. As it is historically obscure who this Hiram might have been (several are mentioned concerning the construction of the temple of Solomon) and there is no mention of that particular myth in the holy book JSM Ward tried to find out who this particular Hiram might have been (JSM Ward: Who was Hiram Abiff - I own a copy of it). He deduced it could have been the father of Hiram of Tyrus (he sent builders and materials to Solomon) who got sacrificed to make the temple to stand strong. He also analyzed some of the Visions of Henoch deducing that there might have been lower chamber beneath the temple of Solomon where Astarte and Tammuz were shipped.
So this is longish and I have no idea where it might lead if anywhere. I just wanted to let you take part on my thoughts.
Edit: The masonic myth is basically about the loss of the Tetragrammaton, which ist the word of creation. Dan Browns novel „The lost Symbol“ covers this at least a bit. And for those afraid: This is not spilling the arcane. There are several BBC documentaries that exactly tell the story of Hiram Abiff. I have been btw to „Hirams Rest“ in Shibboleth and found nothing special.
The spiky-haired woman is almost certainly intended to be Elyssia Fields from the original Dark Wheel novella.
The Dark Wheel medallion is canon. It was mentioned in Galnet and appears in Premonition. The description of the medallion in Premonition matches the fan-fiction image that has been circulating about for years. I assume that Drew had that graphic in front of him while he was writing the description so it is safe to assume that the graphic itself is, for all intents and purposes, nearly canon itself.
As for whether the woman talking is Alessia Verdi or Rebecca ... I've always assumed Rebecca. The description seems to match. It can't have been Alessia Verdi though. The opening lines from the Children of Raxxla short story preclude that possibility. Alessia introduces herself and goes on to say that the events in the story occurred before she got involved with The Children of Raxxla:
"I am Alessia Verdi. You won't have heard of me. That does not matter. I am not very important in this tale, though I had my part to play in what happened.
I did not meet all of the people mentioned here. This occured before I was involved."
Out of curiosity when you went there did you try turning off your engines and seeing where it took you? The grav well was strong enough in my anaconda to pull me until I went 500m/s and seemingly floated to towards the middle of the two planets.
And I thought of something interesting. Probably been said before, but a place that is not a place from game terms could be an asteroid belt.(Are the asteroids from the asteroid belt in sol missing btw?!) Some stuff says it's not in game. I wonder if you just have to manually find it. 8)
And the alchemy gold symbol thing is interesting. I saw something that referenced gold but can't remember. Raxxla could easily be related to the philosophers stone.
And early I mentioned another thing near tionisla or something. It was the beacon about the partially decripted message and the thing about a women riding a giraffe. Has anyone fit that into the sonnets or found anything that could be referencing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...us_transmission_partially_decoded_galnet_101/
I have to finish scanning sol(just got the permit) and go out to KM Cassiopiea and scan that large star cluster finally. And visit a certain large red exploded star on the way. Not to mention the hot dogs near orion, california, and barnards nebula. Did anyone realize there is a stream of 2mass comming out of barnards nebula like how they go through orions nebula?
I'm assuming this is a glitch, but Jupiter when targeted tries to scan it over and over again..
Edit: Does anyone realise we have the power to control all factions fundamentally and hence all politics in the game... It's just kind of dawning on me. We can determine any factions influence.
You know what? I hadn't noticed that. I guess when I read Premonition I must have skimmed over that since I was so familiar with the short-story version. Thanks!In Premonition in the holofac vid played at Salomé’s trial it is the spiky-haired woman, not Rebecca, who represented TDW and was talking to Thorn & Lestenio.
Elyssia was a clone. I think the best explanation is that the spikey-haired woman is a subsequent clone.Might be Elyssia Fields but thought she would have been dead by this time since she was in the original novella.
Given that Rebecca was not the person talking to Thorn & Lestenio, I agree.Doesn’t preclude Rebecca being a member of TDW but is not evidence of that. Need to find a description of Elyssia’s hairstyle. Any other named character with spiky hair?
Rebecca was definitely employed by The Club at one point. I think she was more of a tool not a member.I interpreted the books as Rebecca was a part of the Club. It could have been that the Club and TDW were associated in the Dynasty plot since I think DW said they were often antagonistic to each other, which implies occasionally they are not and may work together at times. Don’t know, rambling, awakened too early by restless pets, need more coffee.....
I was watching that video and then watched this video:
Did it dawn on anyone we are potentially in such a situation where an exodus could become needed.
Another idea. Is FD releasing content solely on when and how we discover stuff in game or is it just based on other criteria?! People figured out formadine and then eventually get get megaships released and now bigger similar ships. Maybe we have to figure out puzzles to get other content or something odd. Did anything happen that might make the guardian or thargoids make sense from a player driven perspective. I'm assuming that might just be them appearing as the games main antagonist. Although it could be either or both.
It mentions them needing waypoint and a conspiracy. What if all the mega ships and other gen ships are the same thing. It said something about zones. What does it look like when you look at the locations of all known gen ships. Especailly the ones with dead crew. Maybe the placement is a part of something. Could go to raxxla or other deeper activity. It's blatantly pointing to something like that. Is the formadine ship that different from the gen ships?
You know what? I hadn't noticed that. I guess when I read Premonition I must have skimmed over that since I was so familiar with the short-story version. Thanks!
Elyssia was a clone. I think the best explanation is that the spikey-haired woman is a subsequent clone.
Given that Rebecca was not the person talking to Thorn & Lestenio, I agree.
Rebecca was definitely employed by The Club at one point. I think she was more of a tool not a member.
I hadn’t spotted it either until your comments yesterday prompted me to to a quick search. I really need to go back to the books and do another analysis of the characters.
yes, it seems significant that many characters are clones: Elyssia, Rebecca, Salomé, Octavia, possibly Arissa, maybe the spiky-haired woman...wonder if there’s something here we missed. Could do with a timely comment from DW on this.