The Quest To Find Raxxla

Scytale

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Or.. The Door is the Event Horizon and The Key is the Singularity ?
But it has been tried so many times...
Or do we need some TDW/Tharg/Guardian tech to reach the Singularity ?
Never understood why FD made the BHs inoffensive/unreachable ( a safety process inherent to the inboard computer ?)... Is there because one of them hides a special game mechanic ?
 
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FullM3talX

FullM3talX
Edelgard von Rhein said:
Alternatively, the Key could be a cube-shaped object small enough to carry in cargo, maybe smaller (I wouldn't rule out the Martian Relic). If activated, it transports you back inside the partner cube (although you would possibly find it difficult to get back home from there, this is not inconsistent with the apparent history).
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very interresting and fascinating idea, about the 2 cubes being attached to each other like from the logo. and holding one in your cargo, could teleport you to the other.
there exist a scientific Observation from actual real life experiments called Quantum Entanglement, that sounds very similar to this.

Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when pairs or groups of particles are generated, interact, or share spatial proximity in ways such that the quantum state of each particle cannot be described independently of the state of the others, even when the particles are separated by a large distance. whatever changes made to one particle is reflected and mirrored onto the other entangled pair particle. they act as if they are the same entity existing in two different places at the same time.
 
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Scytale

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Mmmhh...
Long time since I posted one of my own theories about the Raxxla logo...
Time to bother the newcomers, I think.. 😝
The "Brow, Top, Crown / obfuscated in the outer rim" theory.
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Green, reachable space.
Black/grey, extra galactic space
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Edelgard von Rhein said:
The concept of the tesseract has been mentioned in this thread before but this is a clear demonstration of how the Raxxla symbol fits it. Thanks for posting!

The more I go over the geometry like this, the more I think that the Raxxla symbol from the Codex is a clue to what Raxxla is and not where it is. The arrangement of two parallel cubes into a tesseract (one of the easiest ways for me to visualise it) does lend itself to being a means of travel between two locations. The only part of the symbol it does not explain is the central dot with three arcs around it. I do wonder if that is a representation of our ship with full shields but it could also refer to something needed to activate it (Thargoid Probe, Sensor and Link?) or some action we have to take, like activating the switches in Guardian Beacons.

If the Raxxla symbol describes what Raxxla is, then I think the where is going to be found from analysis of Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars, possibly with 'fernweh' as a cryptographic key. I also need to read about The Kingdom of Prester John as that is much less well-known than the other myths it is mentioned alongside, which makes me wonder if there is also a clue in there somewhere. Tau Ceti, as the place first mentioned in the Codex article, might represent a starting place in game to a path of sorts, once you know where to go.
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Isn’t a tesseract a hypercube? Perhaps Raxxla is a cube in hyperspace?
And Prester John was an early 20th Century book by John Buchan set in South Africa, vaguely remember reading it at school more years ago than I care to remember!
 

yelboc

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Jorki Rasalas said:
Isn’t a tesseract a hypercube? Perhaps Raxxla is a cube in hyperspace?
And Prester John was an early 20th Century book by John Buchan set in South Africa, vaguely remember reading it at school more years ago than I care to remember!
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It is, and its about diamond smuggling in S/Africa. Buchan's usual swashbuckling style..

There is also a book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory,_Sorrow,_and_Thorn

in which PJ is character - its a fantasy novel with a plot-line that mirrors the empire sucession story with Patreus quite closely..
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
FullM3talX said:
very interresting and fascinating idea, about the 2 cubes being attached to each other like from the logo. and holding one in your cargo, could teleport you to the other.
there exist a scientific Observation from actual real life experiments called Quantum Entanglement, that sounds very similar to this.

Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when pairs or groups of particles are generated, interact, or share spatial proximity in ways such that the quantum state of each particle cannot be described independently of the state of the others, even when the particles are separated by a large distance. whatever changes made to one particle is reflected and mirrored onto the other entangled pair particle. they act as if they are the same entity existing in two different places at the same time.
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Quick RL point - the description of Quantum Entanglement here is a little inaccurate and slightly misleading.

The problem part is this:

“whatever changes made to one particle is reflected and mirrored onto the other entangled pair particle.”

That would mean a direct route to FTL comms. However Quantum Entanglement doesn’t enable FTL comms.

What’s happening is not that something is being changed for one particle, it’s that something’s being measured for it. Because the particles are entangled, that means that measuring a value for one, also means the value for the other particle is then also known.

Where the trickiness comes in is that it’s not a case of measuring something that’s already set. Rather it’s the measurement that makes the value become set.

What that means is that when the value for one particle is measured and becomes set, the value for the other is also instantaneously set, regardless of the distance between the particles.

To try to clarify, ‘changing’ would constitute altering from known value A to known value B. What’s happening is going from <value not set> to <value known>.

Further explanation available on request! 😁
 

FullM3talX

FullM3talX
Thatchinho said:
Quick RL point - the description of Quantum Entanglement here is a little inaccurate and slightly misleading.
What’s happening is not that something is being changed for one particle, it’s that something’s being measured for it. Because the particles are entangled, that means that measuring a value for one, also means the value for the other particle is then also known.
To try to clarify, ‘changing’ would constitute altering from known value A to known value B. What’s happening is going from <value not set> to <value known>
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i agree but i would like to add that i never specified when the measuring is made, and it makes all the difference. if we suppose we have 2 entangled Particles A and B. technically you can know and set the value of the particle B by not making measurements on it, and changing properties on particle A first. that would mean that, at the moment when you observe/measure particle B after changes made to A, B would mirror those changes from A in whatever ways it may. and therefore :
FullM3talX said:
“whatever changes made to one particle is reflected and mirrored onto the other entangled pair particle.” + as long as the measurements are done after the change and not before.
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because it's at the moment of the measuring/observing, that the observed particle would take it's form wich is Based and Effected By the current state(not the original state) of it's Entangled pair Particle.
oh man, quantum physics is quite confusing. lol
 
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Oseris

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Just to throw some at the wall...

Has anyone tried to animate the Raxxla logo so that it spins? Perhaps if it spins with the center dot remaining in the center, it begins to show a different image. I know it sounds dumb but it would tie in with the spiraling stars and well why not try it at THIS point. Lol
 

[PS4] Filthymick420

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okay I'm terrible at like posting images to forums apparently but if you Google a tesseract you get a moving fourth-dimensional cube inside of a cube looking image and the still frame of the GIF cuddle looks like The raxxla image
 

FullM3talX

FullM3talX
we might need to learn about what a tesseract actualy is, and what it does. that would be a good starting point and could give some clues.
i know that a tesseract is a 4 dimentional cube. and that's about it. lol
i will do some research as im clueless when it comes to this.

on a fun note : i saw some documentary long ago, about how a 4rth dimentional object would be the perfect place to hide things, as the 4rth dimention of the object is never seen from a simple first glance and observation. a change in point of view or perception has to happen in order for the 4rth dimention to be visible. just like from the animated tesseract gif above.
 
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[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
rOmiLaYu said:
I have no doubt that the raxxla logo is some form of a tesseract. What I dont see is what that gets us in terms of a clue or jumping off point.
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maybe we should stop thinking of raxxla as a body in a system potentially and like some have suggested, more like the nonhuman artifact. Where it might be a location on a body in a system. Or like the guardian beacon, it might be something we have to activate and then fly through.

Which we already kind of thought that could be so basically yeah gets us nowhere
 

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Oseris said:
Just to throw some poopoo at the wall...

Has anyone tried to animate the Raxxla logo so that it spins? Perhaps if it spins with the center dot remaining in the center, it begins to show a different image. I know it sounds dumb but it would tie in with the spiraling stars and well why not try it at THIS point. Lol
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Here you go. I'm not sure this illuminates anything new, but it looks cool.

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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Count dEstard said:
A little Patience here. I‘m already working on your idea. Full report to follow.
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If Tau Ceti is indeed the starting point for searching for Raxxla then perhaps we should be looking for the Mayflower '97. Easily the most famous of all the Generation Ships in Elite lore and one which, as far as I am aware, has not been discovered in Elite Dangerous. The ship reached Tau Ceti ... and then just "kept going" never to heard from again ... at least until the 3250's. From the journals of Frontier: First Encounters:
COLONY SHIP DETECTED
S.L.A.M

Astronomers using Excessively Long Baseline Interferometry (ELBI) to conduct a survey of distant radio sources believe that they may have detected the "Mayflower 97" slower-than-light colony ship, which was launched from orbit around Luna in 2097.

ELBI remains a somewhat inexact science, because receiving stations are placed so far apart that considerations of simultaneity become an issue in interpreting the results, but the patterns received by the Distant Radio Survey group do indeed appear to show radio emissions characteristic of a Bussard ramjet moving with a relativistic velocity of almost 60% of the speed of light. The "Mayflower 97" carried nearly a thousand passengers and crew, plus domestic animals and extensive gene banks to aid in the colonisation of Earth-like worlds which were presumed to exist around nearby stars.

Archaeological evidence suggests that it did indeed successfully reach its first port of call at Tau Ceti, but the fate of both ship and crew thereafter was unknown until now.

The ship's tremendous speed in real space makes it Impractical to attempt a rendezvous, so the "Mayflower" will presumably be left to continue on its way, bearing with it any descendants of its original complement.
 
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