heres hoping the next era Q4?????? 202(?) paid expansion is bug fixes too lmao
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In true FD speak, that is kinda correct. It was 'second half of 2020', that is now 'end of 2020'. And postponing something that supposedly was nearly done by eight months, just to 'fix bugs' (no details provided whatsoever), which itself is an excuse they already used earlier, just has a nasty CIG vibe to it.
So far the only thing they are clear about while hitting the targets is their attempts to sell us stuff, which broke even more actually relevant stuff. Good for them, but all I see is again less delivery and more hollow words.
So that'll be rdr2 and not planet Zoo for me.
Thanks for the update Will.
Of course I'm disappointed, I was really looking forward to the Fleet Carriers. OTOH after the september release I thought to myself: management at FDEV needs to take a hard look at the project because clearly something is not going well. I didn't think of Fleet Carriers getting postponed because I thought they were the main feature to drive the christmas sales of 2019. That they did get postponed says something about how important FDEV think it is to fix the current issues in the game. I really appreciate that. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating of course.
Of course I'm disappointed, I was really looking forward to the Fleet Carriers. OTOH after the september release I thought to myself: management at FDEV needs to take a hard look at the project because clearly something is not going well. I didn't think of Fleet Carriers getting postponed because I thought they were the main feature to drive the christmas sales of 2019. That they did get postponed says something about how important FDEV think it is to fix the current issues in the game. I really appreciate that. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating of course.
Meh. I saw this thread linked elsewhere and figured I'd either be angry or sympathetic towards Frontier when I read the statement, but it turns out I'm neither. ED remains as it's always been, and as I suspect it will always be, a flawed masterpiece. Not close to the dream of the Dev Diaries or the DDF, but still the best version of the 35-year-old Elite universe. I'll continue to dip in and out of it, blasting around the bubble with one account or drifting zen-like through the cosmos with the other. Fleet carriers would have been an interesting temporary diversion, but were never going to be a game-changer for me. So yeah, it's a solid meh from me.
I will stand by what I said three years ago, though. We're never getting atmospheric landings on Earthlike worlds or similar, and I'm not very bullish about space legs either. The foliage in Jurassic World and the crowd simulation in Planet Coaster are red herrings. The Cobra engine might be capable, but as utilised in the five-year-old ED core I doubt it has the grunt, or FD the resources, to pull any of that stuff off.
As ever, I remain happy to be proven wrong.
I will stand by what I said three years ago, though. We're never getting atmospheric landings on Earthlike worlds or similar, and I'm not very bullish about space legs either. The foliage in Jurassic World and the crowd simulation in Planet Coaster are red herrings. The Cobra engine might be capable, but as utilised in the five-year-old ED core I doubt it has the grunt, or FD the resources, to pull any of that stuff off.
As ever, I remain happy to be proven wrong.
Now that did make me smile. Using a euphemism to work around the puritan swear filter, only to have it filter out part of the euphemism. Never change, Frontier.
Ooof, I look back into an old thread from April, it really is Deja Vu......
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MassivelyOP (former AOL housed Massively) has regular updates on ED, and had them for a long time. They aren't generally negative, however they're also not afraid calling a spade for a spade. My signature will give away i'm not unbiased here, i've been a regular there long before i ever played...
The fact that the direct store does not exist temporarily and that it is necessary to connect to the game to access this store, makes Frontier lose customers for kits and paintjobs etc ... I do not know if that's the reason but it will not surprise me.
Once upon a time I was supposed to write a technical document for work.
It was quite a "big job" but I knew I'd be able to just copy/paste most of it from a pre-existing document so I put it off for weeks with the intention of doing it the weekend before I had to submit it.
The weekend came, the missus was away and I set about working on the document.
And then there was a power-cut, which lasted most of the weekend, meaning that I couldn't do any of the work.
Boy was that an awkward meeting, on the Monday morning.
I find myself reminded of that incident for some reason.
It was quite a "big job" but I knew I'd be able to just copy/paste most of it from a pre-existing document so I put it off for weeks with the intention of doing it the weekend before I had to submit it.
The weekend came, the missus was away and I set about working on the document.
And then there was a power-cut, which lasted most of the weekend, meaning that I couldn't do any of the work.
Boy was that an awkward meeting, on the Monday morning.
I find myself reminded of that incident for some reason.
Well, can't say I'm not disappointed with the Fleet Carrier delay but, this sounds like a good choice for the long term and it must have been pretty agonising to make. So good on you all at FD.
Oh come on, you don't let your customers dictate a strategion for you, or determine when its time to change to another
well, they always said they listen to the community!
you have a point. e.g. the beta fuss just smells like politics and a clear hint at the last demonstration. i told them 'beta' was a loaded request but they wouldn't listen
in any case i see nothing wrong with a company coming forward and committing to mend their ways, regardless if this was their own initiative or just damage control. also, players have voiced questions and ... well, an answer is what you would expect! in any case it's the proper thing to do if the product has to live on in good health, this benefits everyone, and now what's important is to watch how this actually plays out.
I knew there was a problem when Adam turned up to the livestream in shorts and striped T-shirt. 
I really do hope that you'll ALSO focus on the game balance & issues because there are bugs but there are also plenty of balance issues and things that could be improved until fleet carriers comes in Q2 2020...
...no news about the next era before summer 2020 ? =O This will be a long run without ...
...no news about the next era before summer 2020 ? =O This will be a long run without ...
Oh, absolutely. I'm fine by the way with whatever this is supposed to mean, as long as the end result is good. I don't really mind the xtra 6 months.
awesomely true
You are obviously from Awesometown.
Forum has been blowing up for months about bugs and to fix the bugs. Devs say sounds good, we start fixing code now and delay an optional feature.
The only people who can afford or want Fleet Carriers are the whales who grind/exploit for billions of credits to purchase said carriers.
Kudos to FD for even speaking to us after the miriad ways we malign and denigrate them.
Thanks Cmdr Wilbur
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they stopped hotfixing when console versions where released. since then patches came on a set date, totally broken or not.
Despite Braben telling that the Elite Dangerous is a PC game, and the console releases will never hold up the PC Version pogress...
Having worked most of my adult life in and around the software industry there are a lot of things about this that do not ring true. They are 6 weeks or less away from releasing the update. The majority of the work is done. They should be in the testing phase at this point. Something is majorly broken with the carriers or the intended implementation. Most of the long standing open bugs are not major bugs or are tied directly to core mechanics and can't be fixed. The issues with instances and multi-crew are directly tied to the distributed nature of the game and probably can't be fixed with the code as is. If they are pulling the entire team away from carriers to bug fixes it means that they have not had a bug fix team at all up to this point. If there were truly so many game breaking bugs that it needed a 6 month pause in content they would be pulling people from "new era" because the code is so unstable that the project is in danger of collapsing. I would more believe that they have shut down the current branch and moved everyone to "new era". We will see a slip again in 6 months with a "we will just roll it in to the expansion" message.
I think this is great news! Given that xbox players have experienced significant issues, will Xbox One be part of the beta program?
I've not been able to get horizons to load since September....
Thanks
I've not been able to get horizons to load since September....
Thanks
It's weird, I have had the same feeling of relaxation.I knew there was a problem when Adam turned up to the livestream in shorts and striped T-shirt.
Yea, but you'll still be back to play it, and will probably still buy things from the store. So many people here complaining won't actually vote with their wallet or stop playing the game. They're deluding themselves.
Don't lie to yourself - you know you will.
ED is the Hotel California.
Although if you can offer proof of this by taking a pic of your play time now and then posting it again when the carrier update drops I'll eat my hat.
awesomely true☮
You are obviously from Awesometown.
Forum has been blowing up for months about bugs and to fix the bugs. Devs say sounds good, we start fixing code now and delay an optional feature.
The only people who can afford or want Fleet Carriers are the whales who grind/exploit for billions of credits to purchase said carriers.
Kudos to FD for even speaking to us after the miriad ways we malign and denigrate them.
Thanks Cmdr Wilbur
Noop, It was FDev to promise Fleet Carrier. And it is also FDev to delay Fleet Carrier. No CMDR forced FDev to promise or to delay. I think you are getting off the track.
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