ANNOUNCEMENT Community Update (22/10)

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well i hope so
to much is left to be fxt

btw to be honnest i am not gonna buy anything untill things are fxt
i just cannot trust FD anymore they disapointed me over and over again with the updates and bugs and the promisses
again no fleetcarrier its a farce majeur that FC and ofcourse expected by many cmdrs


This is a joke i presume ? Some Players ? Come on man change that to the majority of players
Not this player.
 
well i hope so
to much is left to be fxt

btw to be honnest i am not gonna buy anything untill things are fxt
i just cannot trust FD anymore they disapointed me over and over again with the updates and bugs and the promisses
again no fleetcarrier its a farce majeur that FC and ofcourse expected by many cmdrs


This is a joke i presume ? Some Players ? Come on man change that to the majority of players
Was never interested in fleet carriers.
 
The media have been reporting the news for 24hr now, do keep up :)

I can only be a pale imitation :(:) Can you post a summary links page in dd so we can all comment? :p



Future is looking good for the game (if you focus on sandbox mechanics and nothing else).

Okay, i don't think this suits me i'll go back in my box now, lol.
 
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Please feel free to provide an FDev quote saying "Beyond is the update series for bug fixes"

It was about revisiting core gameplay, we could say that includes fixing bugs too.

I am the first to criticize FD but on this one, they own us nothing. You paid already for it and your F***. that is all.
Like me, I am a LEP and i don't think they are entitled to anything.

It's not an entitlement, but I felt there was a contract of trust between the player (me) and FDev, which said by regularly dropping a few quids here and there for cosmetic stuff means my commitment to the game will yield quality updates and extensions, which was de facto promised. This trust is long gone, at least in my case.

Beyond was already marketed as a revisit, so it's been two (?) years already that anything meaningful was added to the game with another one-two to go before the 'new era' - which given their recent track record may, or may not happen. That is a fairly big gap of nothing in a game that supposed to have a 10-year lifecycle.

Sure, FDev can set their priorities as they wish. David Braben is not a flight sim enthusiast anymore, he is a wealthy man who runs a business now. But it shouldn't mean mistreating the fans as they do now. "They supposed to be the chosen one".
 
Not as creepy as someone who thinks it's all right to abuse people who are intellectually incapable of answering back.

Don't let my nice guy image fool you. I'm no snowflake, boy. I'm a hard man. You don't want to know me without a moderator on standby to change your nappy for you.

Come on @Diffin, this is now the third post where you have had a go at someone. We get it, you have a thing about the way people express themselves, but it's not your job to tell them and certainly not the place. Just chill buddy.

..the irony of this post is not lost on me :)
 
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Just as an aside: someone wrote in here some pages ago about a 40 second wait for Geo count when scanning with the FSS. It must be tied to performance/frame rate as, after reading the comment I timed around 30 scans (I was in a large system - all virgin) using the stopwatch on my HOTAS. I scan in 6 seconds as an average (with a variance of only a small fraction of a second). My framerate in the FSS screen also averages 300FPS (which makes me think that screen isn't 4K as I'm half that in normal space) - in VR where it is only 80FPS it takes considerably longer (I'll time it next big system). So 'fixing' scan time may be as simple as not using frame rate as a timer.
 
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Just as an aside: someone wrote in here some pages ago about a 40 second wait for Geo count when scanning with the FSS. It must be tied to performance/frame rate as, after reading the comment I timed around 30 scans (I was in a large system - all virgin) using the stopwatch on my HOTAS. I scan in 6 seconds as an average (with slightly less than and slightly more than that average - but only by fractions of a second). My framerate in the FSS screen also averages 300FPS (which makes me think that screen isn't 4K as I'm half that in normal space) - in VR where it is only 80FPS it takes considerably longer (I'll time it next big system). So 'fixing' scan time may be as simple as not using frame rate as a measure.

Interesting. Might look into that. I really hate how long it takes and just go about finishing my scanning and then come back. PITA that is.
 
Interesting. Might look into that. I really hate how long it takes and just go about finishing my scanning and then come back. PITA that is.
I edited for clarity as you were quoting my post - but will come back with VR timing tomorrow - I know it appears interminable after being in pancake :)
 
Announcing a delay during internal beta in the few-month run-up to release, when bugs are being identified, sounds like the right time to me. But then I clearly don't understand game development.
Internal testing is Alpha, beta testing should be done by somebody outside. But yes then or just later when they have a timescale for the required fixes would be good.

But that is also the opinion of somebody not involved in any software industry.
 
TL;DR of this thread's replies:

  • We want bug fixes now
  • We want new game content now, and we don't care if its buggy or broken
  • We want new game content now, fully working with no bugs
  • We want half-baked content now, make it full-baked later
  • We want old half-baked-content improving to full-baked content
  • We want want a content roadmap now
  • We cannot handle changes to the roadmap
  • Bugs not being fixed will mean players leave
  • Features not being added will mean players leave
  • Old features not being improved will mean players leave
  • Changing the roadmap will mean players leave
  • Fleet carriers are delayed
  • Fleet carriers don't exist and won't happen
  • New Era doesn't exist and won't happen
  • FDev should tell us what's happening.
  • FDev lies
That about covers it.

...New Era launches, players play. FDev thinks: well, that was a lot of whining?
 
Internal testing is Alpha, beta testing should be done by somebody outside. But yes then or just later when they have a timescale for the required fixes would be good.
By this rationale, Star Citizen would be in beta when it clearly isn't (missing key tech like AI and MMO networking) - it has't reached its goals for release.

Alpha is upto feature complete for release; beta is feature complete, extra content creation and bug fixing for release, internal and/or external.
 
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