Just support those developers who support VR, I'm sure there are other worthwhile games out there.
VR support 'not at launch' for Odyssey
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Just support those developers who support VR, I'm sure there are other worthwhile games out there.
I most certainly will. I don't think Frontier's F1 management game will support VR. Do you?
Maybe, you'll be able to quaff champagne and eat caviar as long as you don't get up
They supported it initially because it was relatively easy and low cost to do so. And because they and the fanbase were passionate about it.
It's not a black or white thing. Just because profit is important doesn't mean they do everything for profit. They made a niche space game with a 1:1 galaxy for frick's sake
. Nobody made them do that. They wanted to do that . (They just figured there was also a business case for doing what they wanted, and the KS helped confirm that).But there are still payoffs between passion and pragmatics. VR is just running up against a scenario where passion can't keep the beancounters at bay.
I still think solutions can be found. (I suspect one of those solutions might be a higher unit price for a full-fat VR version though...)
Well as i have written to someone......
Its not ED i will miss, it will be my CMDR friends in ED i will miss
Say what you like, AS IT STANDS Horizon players and Odessey players will NOT be able to play together !!!
I have shown proof of this and it IS a FACT.
All the conversation about FPS and base building is a mess at the moment, ALL we need to ask the FDEV's is to allow Horizon and Odessey players to be able to at least play in a session until you try and get out onto your legs, just pretend you are 2 pi**ed to walk, but still fly and drive, (just in relal life ) im sure your squadron members would believe you
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Its not ED i will miss, it will be my CMDR friends in ED i will miss
Say what you like, AS IT STANDS Horizon players and Odessey players will NOT be able to play together !!!
I have shown proof of this and it IS a FACT.
All the conversation about FPS and base building is a mess at the moment, ALL we need to ask the FDEV's is to allow Horizon and Odessey players to be able to at least play in a session until you try and get out onto your legs, just pretend you are 2 pi**ed to walk, but still fly and drive, (just in relal life
) im sure your squadron members would believe you war
None of which were FPS games. Omnidirectional movement in a three-dimensional space is a bit different than controlling Pac-Man.
What a grossly misleading argument you make.
You think those who use VR might pay more than the rest of us, even though you think Frontier probably have an economic case for dropping VR at will?
Doesn't sound too enticing does it?
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VR is on the up. But it's still a drop in the ocean compared to the standard gaming market. Those are just the brass tacks. 2m players on
PS5VR should help the business case, so there's that. But VR's unit purchasing power will still remain vanishingly small in comparison to the gaming market as a whole.
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Well 75% of my mates are wanting to get into VR now, some have ordered, but have a 2-3 months waiting list, as far as i know the only that you can order that is not out of stock is the Pimax.
With 2nd Gen headsets out now (if you can call them 2nd gen, thats an argument for the VR groups lol) £600 to get a headset that is 5x better than 2 years ago and would be like running ED on a 4k screen...... yes that is why VR is quickly catching up and becomming populat and not a "niche" piece of equipment
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The VR market already charges above average for its games. FDev haven't done that to date. I'm suggesting that could change. (And personally I'd understand if that was the route they took).
I'm only guessing on the production difficulties they may be facing, I'm not a pro in the area. But as an avid fan of VR, who reads a lot of dev chat re production challenges & differences from flat-dev, I suspect I'm in the right ballpark. And if I am right, then more overt and knowable numbers come into play. (Like the dev costs mentioned in the other thread. The actual number of devs involved is still guesswork, but the potential for costs to spiral and not match potential earnings is fairly clear).
The unit sales + VR market numbers themselves are pretty transparent, and tell a fairly straigtforward story.
I think it's pretty clear why FDev are holding back. And it's not to spite us
I guess it's best to check out a developer's other games to see what they generally support. That would have been a good guide for macOS and VR users.
Well 75% of my mates are wanting to get into VR now, some have ordered, but have a 2-3 months waiting list, as far as i know the only that you can order that is not out of stock is the Pimax.
With 2nd Gen headsets out now (if you can call them 2nd gen, thats an argument for the VR groups lol) £600 to get a headset that is 5x better than 2 years ago and would be like running ED on a 4k screen...... yes that is why VR is quickly catching up and becomming populat and not a "niche" piece of equipment
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It's all great that VR is buzzing man. I'm with you
And I think it's going to make the distance, in one form or other.
But it is still niche currently. The current massive uptake has taken us to 2% headset ownership on the steam platform. It tells its own story. A long way to go yet
How is this a fact. I suspect that Odyssey, horizons and base game players can all play together while in space. Horizons and Odyssey player in space and non atmospheric planets.Well as i have written to someone......
Its not ED i will miss, it will be my CMDR friends in ED i will miss
Say what you like, AS IT STANDS Horizon players and Odessey players will NOT be able to play together !!!
I have shown proof of this and it IS a FACT.
I can't see what the mess is.All the conversation about FPS and base building is a mess at the moment, ALL we need to ask the FDEV's is to allow Horizon and Odessey players to be able to at least play in a session until you try and get out onto your legs, just pretend you are 2 pi**ed to walk, but still fly and drive, (just in relal life
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I agrre with you CMDR
What i dont agree is with the tag "niche" £600 for a quality HMD headset, and people here pay £800-£2000's on a monitor, they are the "niche" users but they are not labled as such.
What i dont agree is with the tag "niche" £600 for a quality HMD headset, and people here pay £800-£2000's on a monitor, they are the "niche" users but they are not labled as such.
I think it's pretty clear why FDev are holding back. And it's not to spite us
If they hold back now, for whatever reason, as a VR user you'd have to think twice about their future committment to VR. If barren planets are as tricky as you suggest, then planets with substantial life are going to be far trickier. Frontier appear to have bitten off more than they can chew.
If a player is playing in Odessey and you are in Horizons, then all planetry activity is out, or fine, you fly to a planet with your wingmates and then umm what do you do, you cant interact CURRENTLY with how FDEV has set the roadmap.
Its a mess because not even General players can agree what they want, some for or against FPR some for or against Base building, VR users have stated a LOT of times, we are no SO bothered about that "yet" jusy give us what we already haev currently in VR, the rest can be discussed after release.
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Somebody needs to learn the difference between their opinion and a fact.
I did when I realised how much effort had gone into HL:Alyx. People now expect that level of immersion.
Don't get me wrong, I want VR in Odyssey at some point. Its just I want Odyssey out at the beginning of 2021, not at the end. The game would be dead if this content drought continued much longer. And yes i KNOW we're getting fleet carriers tomorrow but it has been a horribly dry last six months. For goodness sake, I've even given Power-play a try to keep me playing and then been surprised how much fun it is when you play open only and with a huge player group!! (But that's another thing!)