The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Vektorboson]

I think no one has found raxxla yet to this date due to the fact everyone has dived way to deep into rabbit holes, the phraze it may be right under our noses may mean more simple meaning and thinking is required considering everyone has tried and tested multiple and mental approaches yet raxxla has been around far beyond most technological advances in the game itself if we are to beleive it is in the game that is

I have to disagree with you on this because of the nature of the Raxxla-mystery.

There are several problems:

• everyone has their own lead or hint they are following, but nobody knows if it's the right one
• the actual hints from FD are vague, misleading or speculative on purpose and thus open to wide interpretation
• someone abandoning a theory does not mean the theory was wrong; perhaps only a single action was missing to unlock the secret
• people tend to not follow abandoned theories; which makes this hunt more difficult if someone already had the correct idea, but nobody tries it again
• people regularly notice weird stuff, but they don't draw connections
  • example 1: People noticed the "Two Ladies"-name, but it seems that I'm the first to write in public about the Wadjet-Nekhbet-connection (someone else might already have noticed it and discussed in a private forum)
  • example 2: People already noticed the weirdness of the Isis-system (in this forum); nobody tried to make something of it
• if people notice weird stuff that might help the Raxxla-hunt, but don't report it, we're possibly missing important information; those people are just playing the game and don't care about Raxxla
• bugs which are mistaken for hints or manifestations of the Raxxla-mystery

I agree with you that Raxxla might be right under our nose, but if you're missing hard facts where to search next, you need to speculate. It doesn't help that the wording in the Codex naturally leads into a rabbit hole.

 

[TrillClinton]

I have to disagree with you on this because of the nature of the Raxxla-mystery.

on the other hand, this is true too, if it were 100% obvious, we would have found it by now. im conflicted if we're in too deep or not deep enough

people tend to not follow abandoned theories; which makes this hunt more difficult if someone already had the correct idea, but nobody tries it again

i second that, i have seen a lot of promising theories out there but no actual follow up on how far they got. Maybe a problem of not combining efforts (except the people scouring the milky way for every 8th moon of a gas giant), maybe too much distracting leads.
Do we have confirmed dead ends?

 

[Alexium67]

In the Odyssey we all will have our own Raxxla. Just by planet naming system.

 

[clavain]

• the actual hints from FD are vague, misleading or speculative on purpose and thus open to wide interpretation
• someone abandoning a theory does not mean the theory was wrong; perhaps only a single action was missing to unlock the secret
• people tend to not follow abandoned theories; which makes this hunt more difficult if someone already had the correct idea, but nobody tries it again

Pssst - wanna buy some Soontil Relics? Or Unknown Artefacts? Shurely persuading players to sell certain rares in certain places couldn't make a difference to the narrative? And when all else fails just try listening to them, with extensive out of game sound analysis software and skills that every player has, or spend months searching a route that was hinted at in Galnet (back when it was good) of thousands of LYs only to discover you missed the object by 7.4LY after someone else finds it. Great fun!!

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Pssst - wanna buy some Soontil Relics? Or Unknown Artefacts? Shurely persuading players to sell certain rares in certain places couldn't make a difference to the narrative? And when all else fails just try listening to them, with extensive out of game sound analysis software and skills that every player has, or spend months searching a route that was hinted at in Galnet (back when it was good) of thousands of LYs only to discover you missed the object by 7.4LY after someone else finds it. Great fun!!

You see the reason i think most rabit hole theorys are hit or miss is the lack of CMDR data on their servers, they dont officially store where each individual person was otherwise we wouldnt have the issues of losing our data or backing up or exploration data file, they can see where everyone has been/passed but not stored on an individual basis and the same for sales of items, missions etc.....so....from this the only plausible outcomes i can see are Ranks, permits and other stored information like these would be somewhat "Preferred access" goals if there even is any perquisites to finding Raxxla which i doubt there is.

As for mythology etc yes i do think it may have a part, the issue is without any sort of indication on where to start this would take much longer than just passing through and honking everything instead, We have storys, fables etc most player made, fan made and rumours however no actual confirmed status from Fdev so for now all I see is rabbit holes to bury into instead of actually going and looking which is a major task in itself and been done since launch, I mean Raxxla if real has to be close if not in the bubble, whatever was retconned/not retconned it would be a major kick in the teeth if it wasnt as there would be no possible way to tie it with current codex entrys current "clues" if they even are etc, from this the only way currently would be to scour the whole area until Fdev give more which looking at it are holding their breath.

To be honest most players who started searching have gotten tired by now, most come then go and each time I enter this forum i see new faces, different theorys but yet the same sort of style just written differently using different guidelines but unfortunately the same outcome. I personally believe Fdev are just carrying this Raxxla legend to keep players who have everything done already to keep searching, I dont think a literal Raxxla exists in game that is actually seeable and not just some background lore which makes it technically "in game" A further thought of why i think it isnt ingame is these where moved into the "Roleplay & Lore section as apposed to the ingame section....not sure why but that in its self leads me to believe it is for now just background lore.

 

[clavain]

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As for mythology etc yes i do think it may have a part, the issue is without any sort of indication on where to start this would take much longer than just passing through and honking everything instead, We have storys, fables etc most player made, fan made and rumours however no actual confirmed status from Fdev so for now all I see is rabbit holes to bury into instead of actually going and looking which is a major task in itself and been done since launch, I mean Raxxla if real has to be close if not in the bubble, whatever was retconned/not retconned it would be a major kick in the teeth if it wasnt as there would be no possible way to tie it with current codex entrys current "clues" if they even are etc, from this the only way currently would be to scour the whole area until Fdev give more which looking at it are holding their breath.

To be honest most players who started searching have gotten tired by now, most come then go and each time I enter this forum i see new faces, different theorys but yet the same sort of style just written differently using different guidelines but unfortunately the same outcome. I personally believe Fdev are just carrying this Raxxla legend to keep players who have everything done already to keep searching, I dont think a literal Raxxla exists in game that is actually seeable and not just some background lore which makes it technically "in game"

Definitely, and I largely agree with everything you have outlined - as I, and many others here, have experienced them all. Did not mean to be (too) sarcastic, most of that was aimed at FD. What you are writing is very much deja vu, and not just for Raxxla sadly. It can be very frustrating, but at this point they have dug their hole(s), and I think every time they try to get out of them they just end up digging them deeper, unfortunately.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Definitely, and I largely agree with everything you have outlined - as I, and many others here, have experienced them all. Did not mean to be (too) sarcastic, most of that was aimed at FD. What you are writing is very much deja vu, and not just for Raxxla sadly. It can be very frustrating, but at this point they have dug their hole(s), and I think every time they try to get out of them they just end up digging them deeper, unfortunately.

I added a tad bit at the end, why was the raxxla post move to Roleplay and Lore? this is the only thing from Fdev that is also vague but seems like it adds to the "not actually an in-game asset"

My first ever though was that raxxla is lucifer in sirius due to the "It has been exploited for years" reference and also due to the frameshift drive/military drive fuel being exploited since the mention of raxxla in lore, It fit the lore, it fit the region, the distance of our travels during the legends everything, prototypes of drives given to them by the alliance (maybe dark wheel/club affiliates yet...those coils wrapped around the planet dont even exist nevermind the rest

 

[simulacrae]

I've spent the last few days considering all sorts of connections to the toast (persephone the lost daughter = parents grief, hades in love with persephone = lovers woe,etc etc) Lately i've considered the edges of the space map as indicator, namely the void, the abyss and lyra's song seem interesting to me, having connections to the toast (lyra and sirens are connected and the void seems like a obvious one) but even making these connections, what would you do with it? we don't know that we are searching for, or what a clue could even be. I've lined up multiple constellations with the emblem but with the scale of things its nearly impossible to determine a center or a point. Im not giving up quite yet but the lead is starting to dry out. Any tipps or ideas appreciated.

It has to be atleast a bit more obvious than scrolling pages and pages of mythology and 10+ year old ED lore for bits that lead into rabbithole after rabbithole... right?

Considering the clues that have been given are mostly related to myths and stories... ya id say get used to:

Spoiler: rabbit hunting

But I tried something like what your are talking about a while back - using the "real" Dark wheel logo - (Not the player created one ). I like it as as symbol for Aquilas Halo - Gold circle surrounding a Bird.... Tried working up a path around the outer rim based on the toast and that...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-717#post-8210892

Kept me busy for a while but nothing came of it.

 

[TrillClinton]

Considering the clues that have been given are mostly related to myths and stories...

True. There are so many possible connections to consider, pages upon pages to read but no actual usable clue, just data. It's fun though.

(Not the player created one )

i heard differing opinions on that. the raxxla symbol is depicted on the raxxla codex entry with no mention of the player faction children of raxxla. who was first, the player faction or the symbol? as i understood it the flat one is just a recreation from the tilted one in the codex, but i wouldnt know which was first since i wasnt playing ED when it was added.

Tried working up a path around the outer rim based on the toast and that...

interesting idea, that would be a personal journey for sure

 

[CMDR Davanix]

True. There are so many possible connections to consider, pages upon pages to read but no actual usable clue, just data. It's fun though.

i heard differing opinions on that. the raxxla symbol is depicted on the raxxla codex entry with no mention of the player faction children of raxxla. who was first, the player faction or the symbol? as i understood it the flat one is just a recreation from the tilted one in the codex, but i wouldnt know which was first since i wasnt playing ED when it was added.

interesting idea, that would be a personal journey for sure

The codex symbol was the first version of that symbol, the children of raxxla beforehand explicitly used some weird spiral dragon around the elite log beforehand.

 

[simulacrae]

i heard differing opinions on that. the raxxla symbol is depicted on the raxxla codex entry with no mention of the player faction children of raxxla. who was first, the player faction or the symbol? as i understood it the flat one is just a recreation from the tilted one in the codex, but i wouldnt know which was first since i wasnt playing ED when it was added.

No worries - ya I remember when it was created. I think someone made it based off of a famous crop circle. Its a pretty cool logo but - player created, ya the children of raxxla adopted it . But still player created so not related to anything raxxla or dark wheel in game. The Codex one I think is the one to base proper tinfoil theories after

 

[{SAS}Stalker]

You see the reason i think most rabit hole theorys are hit or miss is the lack of CMDR data on their servers, they dont officially store where each individual person was otherwise we wouldnt have the issues of losing our data or backing up or exploration data file, they can see where everyone has been/passed but not stored on an individual basis and the same for sales of items, missions etc.....so....from this the only plausible outcomes i can see are Ranks, permits and other stored information like these would be somewhat "Preferred access" goals if there even is any perquisites to finding Raxxla which i doubt there is.

As for mythology etc yes i do think it may have a part, the issue is without any sort of indication on where to start this would take much longer than just passing through and honking everything instead, We have storys, fables etc most player made, fan made and rumours however no actual confirmed status from Fdev so for now all I see is rabbit holes to bury into instead of actually going and looking which is a major task in itself and been done since launch, I mean Raxxla if real has to be close if not in the bubble, whatever was retconned/not retconned it would be a major kick in the teeth if it wasnt as there would be no possible way to tie it with current codex entrys current "clues" if they even are etc, from this the only way currently would be to scour the whole area until Fdev give more which looking at it are holding their breath.

To be honest most players who started searching have gotten tired by now, most come then go and each time I enter this forum i see new faces, different theorys but yet the same sort of style just written differently using different guidelines but unfortunately the same outcome. I personally believe Fdev are just carrying this Raxxla legend to keep players who have everything done already to keep searching, I dont think a literal Raxxla exists in game that is actually seeable and not just some background lore which makes it technically "in game" A further thought of why i think it isnt ingame is these where moved into the "Roleplay & Lore section as apposed to the ingame section....not sure why but that in its self leads me to believe it is for now just background lore.

I'm coming around to this same way of thinking now. If you take a step back and look at what we actually have for raxxla it is for the most part, player created. Sure there's an introduction to it a TDW in the codex but it has no context and thus meaningless.

I think the reason there's a blanket ban on them talking about it or even helping us distinguish between what is actually intended and what's a bug is because they need to keep this going because raxxla is an exit net for cmdrs who have reached the end of meaningful gameplay, how many of here are here for the mystery of raxxla?

I find the whole thing incredibly disappointing that the likelihood is, this is a ghost. I'm equally disappointed that after 6 years they couldn't have got something sorted out so it did exist.

I've said it before there's a time approaching where the ship will have sailed and they may well have missed the opportunity to exploit this golden egg, because after 6 years people have stopped caring.

For the record, despite answering my question in the AMA thread, and asking me to highlight which things we thought was a bug, Bruce didn't even have the courtesy to respond further. Take from that what you will.

Disgruntled Nottingham.

 

[TrillClinton]

The codex symbol was the first version of that symbol, the children of raxxla beforehand explicitly used some weird spiral dragon around the elite log beforehand.

No worries - ya I remember when it was created. I think someone made it based off of a famous crop circle. Its a pretty cool logo but - player created, ya the children of raxxla adopted it . But still player created so not related to anything raxxla or dark wheel in game. The Codex one I think is the one to base proper tinfoil theories after

thanks for setting this straight, was confused about the relevance of the symbol for a while now. bummer, the 6 pointer thing had me. Back to bottomless mythological refrences it is!

 

[Vektorboson]

No worries - ya I remember when it was created. I think someone made it based off of a famous crop circle. Its a pretty cool logo but - player created, ya the children of raxxla adopted it . But still player created so not related to anything raxxla or dark wheel in game. The Codex one I think is the one to base proper tinfoil theories after

I'd like to also mention that the Raxxla-logo exists partially ingame.

The "Scientific Installation" has a dark rotating hexagon with 6 outer spokes, where the 6 spokes are between red light emitters; I assume those red light emitters might be heat dispensers/radiators. Unfortunately turning your light on, the hexagon has some weird rectangular metallic shapes which does not represent the inner part of the Raxxla-logo.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I'm coming around to this same way of thinking now. If you take a step back and look at what we actually have for raxxla it is for the most part, player created. Sure there's an introduction to it a TDW in the codex but it has no context and thus meaningless.

I think the reason there's a blanket ban on them talking about it or even helping us distinguish between what is actually intended and what's a bug is because they need to keep this going because raxxla is an exit net for cmdrs who have reached the end of meaningful gameplay, how many of here are here for the mystery of raxxla?

I find the whole thing incredibly disappointing that the likelihood is, this is a ghost. I'm equally disappointed that after 6 years they couldn't have got something sorted out so it did exist.

I've said it before there's a time approaching where the ship will have sailed and they may well have missed the opportunity to exploit this golden egg, because after 6 years people have stopped caring.

For the record, despite answering my question in the AMA thread, and asking me to highlight which things we thought was a bug, Bruce didn't even have the courtesy to respond further. Take from that what you will.

Disgruntled Nottingham.

You’re suffering Space Madness, due to an excess of grind!
Just smile, be happy! pour yourself a Lavian brandy, power down your ship, switch on the TV and watch something entertaining. Or read a good book. Or go for a walk (but wrap up well cos it’s pretty darn cold out there this morning! The copawlot got dragged around a bit faster than usual on his morning EVA!)

What we are searching for cannot possibly match the overblown hype that has been bandied about. It is just an Easter egg, nothing more, hopefully visually really cool, but no gateway to another universe or treasures or aliens. That was all hype based on overblown player expectations from the original novella. FD haven’t promulgated that hype, they just refuse to talk about it.

Now I think the playerbase has currently discovered around 0.01% of the systems in the game universe (though come to think of it there might be another decimal place in there). So, IFF it is named and marked “RAXXLA” in big glowing lights when found within some randomly placed system then there is a long way to go before it is likely to be found. However IFF, like me, you believe it is in a system within the bubble, that has already been visited but it has not been discovered so it most probably is hidden or disguised in some way then the search approach needs to be modified accordingly. I don’t think in any way it’s an exit route from the game. Yes FD are annoying when they refuse to answer basic questions about it, but I don’t think they’re reliant on it in any way, it’s just an Easter egg.

But however you view Raxxla it is not worth pointless grind to the point of frustration. It is just a gameplay path that is a little different from the usual trade/combat/exploration gameplay paths. Just do something else for a while. It’s a game, if you’re not enjoying it that’s not FD’s fault, you’re doing something wrong

 

[Merlin StWahgwaan]

Now I think the playerbase has currently discovered around 0.01% of the systems in the game universe (though come to think of it there might be another decimal place in there).

Surprisingly, I litterally just read the below statement from Fdev the other day, and can update your information on these stats...

If you find the Odyssey Q&A - First Footfall statement released about 2 days ago, the following is part of it and gives us the most accurate number I think we've had in a looong time......

Q: If I join after launch will I still be able to experience First Footfall?
Elite Dangerous is a huge and expansive galaxy containing more than 400 billion star systems. To date our players have traversed just 201 million of these systems which equates to around 0.05%. In the same way that new Commanders continue to join the world of Elite and make their own, personal discoveries, we have no doubt that commanders will have the opportunity to make their own discoveries for many years to come.

Add-On: 0.015303% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM

 

[simulacrae]

Well spent some time this evening trying climb the cosmic tree along the axis mundi and open the sun door with the OM sound (Im assuming this is the discovery scanner).
Ya kept running into the sun and overheating....

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/...-DISSERTATION-2015.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

Climbing the Cosmic Tree - p264

great fun - very meditative....

 

[Hanerib]

Spoiler

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Well spent some time this evening trying climb the cosmic tree along the axis mundi and open the sun door with the OM sound (Im assuming this is the discovery scanner).
Ya kept running into the sun and overheating....

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/...-DISSERTATION-2015.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

Climbing the Cosmic Tree - p264

great fun - very meditative....

Ommmm......
Maybe you have to do it while standing on your head with legs in lotus posture?

 

[alexzk]

Well spent some time this evening trying climb the cosmic tree along the axis mundi and open the sun door with the OM sound (Im assuming this is the discovery scanner).
Ya kept running into the sun and overheating....

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/...-DISSERTATION-2015.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

Climbing the Cosmic Tree - p264

great fun - very meditative....

Those are brain errors just. There are 3 main subsystems in brain, 3 big neural networks, and they're concurrent. I.e. if you watch cats (perception) then you cannot think (another one). Meditation just switch switches of priorities of those 3. And if you use rare "meditative" part in RL then that will be "great finding" for you.
Similar effect can be done with a lot of food. That will take blood to stomach, so most expensive thinking processes in brain will shutdown. That's why some ppl eat at stress.