The Quest To Find Raxxla

clavain

clavain
TrillClinton said:
As stated in my original post i also see it more as a refrence to a central point of something, but IF you tried to visually find or by meaning decipher the "eyes" it would make a big diffrence if you aligned for the brow (more linear) or the forehead (triangular). Just keeping options open.

I agree that it propably just refrences a central (maybe brighter than usual) point in a constellation of some sort, that either is or can be connected trough mythos to the creation of atleast a few galaxies.

I personally tought about it as either being right on the browridge between the eyebrows, or the center of the forehead, right in the middle between hairline and eyebrows.

Being aware about all the diffrences in translation would help to find out which parts of the toast are more literal and had to be carried over 1:1 and which are more vague concepts. As an example the parents grief and lovers woe are defined, clear refrences to either myth, history or art and from what i see even the diffrences in spanish are just a choice of taking the first or second translation result for a word. The mother of all galxies is more vague and that jewel is all over the place, this makes me think that the mother is a grander concept to be understood, in order to find the center and with that the more literal "jewel".

Of course there are language barriers in translating, but assuming the toast has some importance, it had to be written with all the info you need to solve it in any language (or atleast i hope). If it turns out the texts have these consistencies in being vague about certain and literal about other things, we'd know the priority of key words, which would maybe help in solving the toast (if possible).
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It's funny, but whenever I hear brow, I always think first of the crest of a hill or ridgeline. And I'm a native English speaker also but Canadian - too much tromping over hills in my life I guess. To confuse matters further, the brow of a hill can also be the lip of a valley or depression. Just sayin'.
 

SergMx

SergMx
clavain said:
That is sort of the entire point though with emergent gameplay.
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So you understand that Raчxxla will never be found?

I am Russian and there are no eyebrows and foreheads in our translation of the toast. Just a listing of the different elements of the galaxy. That's how I understood it.
The core, the jumping sounds and some sirens...
 

clavain

clavain
SergMx said:
So you understand that Raчxxla will never be found?

I am Russian and there are no eyebrows and foreheads in our translation of the toast. Just a listing of the different elements of the galaxy. That's how I understood it.
The core, the jumping sounds and some sirens...
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And here I thought I was the cynical one. ;-)

I hope it will be found, even though I have had/have my doubts at times, otherwise I likely wouldn't be hanging out here.
 

SergMx

SergMx
clavain said:
And here I thought I was the cynical one. ;-)

I hope it will be found, even though I have had/have my doubts at times, otherwise I likely wouldn't be hanging out here.
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Personally, I'm more interested in the first mention rather than the toast. What do you mean - on the way to the drive?
Still, what is this particular place not far from the Tau Cite line to some treasure ...
 

clavain

clavain
Hmm, not Raxxla related, but in California Sector now and no Thargoid ship presence that I can see, not even in the systems with barnacles. Why have the Thargoids not contested the Alliance expansion there like they have in Witch Head and Coalsack? Pirates have, but not the Thargoids themselves? Anyone find that a little strange? Also facilities named after Mic Turner, and his faction Turner Research Group seem to be largely running the place. He (supposedly) disappeared trying to make peaceful first contact with the Thargoids. I believe it is different Alliance factions in the other nebulae. Curiouser and curiouser. That said California Nebula is one of those odd ones where the systems don't actually seem to be in the nebula itself as depicted on the Galaxy Map, so perhaps that explains the absence of Thargoid signal sources. Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if a Thargoid signal source has ever been seen outside of a nebula or dark region?
 

[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
clavain said:
Hmm, not Raxxla related, but in California Sector now and no Thargoid ship presence that I can see, not even in the systems with barnacles. Why have the Thargoids not contested the Alliance expansion there like they have in Witch Head and Coalsack? Pirates have, but not the Thargoids themselves? Anyone find that a little strange? Also facilities named after Mic Turner, and his faction Turner Research Group seem to be largely running the place. He (supposedly) disappeared trying to make peaceful first contact with the Thargoids. I believe it is different Alliance factions in the other nebulae. Curiouser and curiouser. That said California Nebula is one of those odd ones where the systems don't actually seem to be in the nebula itself as depicted on the Galaxy Map, so perhaps that explains the absence of Thargoid signal sources. Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if a Thargoid signal source has ever been seen outside of a nebula or dark region?
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They used to be in the bubble back when they attacked stations. Used to be AX CZs with interceptors all throughout
 

djadjok

djadjok
Ravenl0ft said:
as @TrillClinton mentioned the definition of brow should be taken as forehead, not eyebrow nor the other meanings. I wonder how it could be interpretted from other languages? I know a lot of cmdrs speaking Spanish and Russian, may be they can enlight us about the Raxxla codex interpretation in their language?
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I strongly advise against relying on differences in the original and translated texts. Localisations are just "translations", that's not a "redesigned" text entries. Yes, the work have been done professionally (I'm not speaking here about UI elements) and I'm sure that this have been done by third party companies - on outsource - i.e. by someone who is probably completely unaware of the subject. The latter is based on my own comparison of dozens of Tip Off related text using all 6 "officially" supported languages.
So, one must stick to original - English - texts if trying to find "clues" in in exact wording . And that even if we don't take into account that there is at least one POI already discovered, that do produce "logs" for English-client users, and renders "nothing" to any other (and I mean really "nothing" - no any "signs" at all, no "empty page" or non-translated text).
Imo, the only point when translated texts can be of any particular interest - is when we need to track down the evolution of original text along time axis - to track down eventual "corrections" that are not reflected in translated versions.
 

clavain

clavain
Here you go Jorki, if you are looking for something... http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-ref?bibcode=2007JRASC.101...68H&simbo=on Those references are just for the Coalsack region. If you click on the other references here, you will get similar lists of Simbad objects from each journal article. If you then click on the object identifier, you will get all the stellar catalog identifiers for that object, and can search the Galaxy Map for each one. You can thank me later. ;-)
http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?bibyear1=1850&bibyear2=$currentYear&submit=Display&Ident=@3720629&Name=NAME+Great+Rift&bibdisplay=refsum&bibyear1=1850&bibyear2=$currentYear#lab_ident
 
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clavain

clavain
Hah, I finally found my chat history on these new-fangled forums, and in addition to all the hexediting messages from mods and strange notes from penguins (weirdly also about a Rift), found the video that had the view of the Pleiades in it which looks similar to the Thargoid logo. Check out the 3:54 mark here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8U...tm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Notice anything interesting about it? My photoshop skills aren't up to this, but if you overlay the barnacles logo on it, it sure looks to me like the black areas on the first of the Thargoid logos match the dark areas of the nebula where there is no dust almost exactly. I am sure you could find a better image of the nebula where it would be even clearer.

Some may remember this video from the threadnought, I think it ended up posted there as well after I shared it with some of those orangy sciency folks..
 
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Leeloo Catfish

Leeloo Catfish
SergMx said:
So you understand that Raчxxla will never be found?

I am Russian and there are no eyebrows and foreheads in our translation of the toast. Just a listing of the different elements of the galaxy. That's how I understood it.
The core, the jumping sounds and some sirens...
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Hey SergMx , would you be able to post the russian version of the toast , i would like to have a look at the potential translations. Might give a different perspective :D
 

SergMx

SergMx
Leeloo Catfish said:
Hey SergMx , would you be able to post the russian version of the toast , i would like to have a look at the potential translations. Might give a different perspective :D
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Okay, I'll write it tomorrow, since I'm away from the computer now.

In the meantime, my next question: was there a possibility that Raxxla was the name of an unknown Thargoid device ? At least we don't know what it is.
 
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Leeloo Catfish

Leeloo Catfish
A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and form. Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by touch, of which we are capable". So, they sought it out, and when they found it they groped about it. The first person, whose hand landed on the trunk, said, "This being is like a thick snake". For another one whose hand reached its ear, it seemed like a kind of fan. As for another person, whose hand was upon its leg, said, the elephant is a pillar like a tree-trunk. The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said the elephant, "is a wall". Another who felt its tail, described it as a rope. The last felt its tusk, stating the elephant is that which is hard, smooth and like a spear.
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