Still too dark!
Odyssey Progress
- Thread starter David Braben
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Skimming through this thread, I see three types of people:
1 - Those who love the game and understand that software releases of any form will have a settling-out period, simply because alpha/beta testing cannot test for all possible eventualities that come up when a large group of people are using it all at the same time. These people get frustrated with the bugs and crashes that occur in the days (and, maybe, weeks) after a new major release, but understand that, over time, things will smooth out as fixes get applied.
2 - Those who should not buy anything with a low serial number, or should never play MMOs, because single-player, standalone games are much easier to debug and stabilize quickly.
3 - Trolls.
1 - Those who love the game and understand that software releases of any form will have a settling-out period, simply because alpha/beta testing cannot test for all possible eventualities that come up when a large group of people are using it all at the same time. These people get frustrated with the bugs and crashes that occur in the days (and, maybe, weeks) after a new major release, but understand that, over time, things will smooth out as fixes get applied.
2 - Those who should not buy anything with a low serial number, or should never play MMOs, because single-player, standalone games are much easier to debug and stabilize quickly.
3 - Trolls.
I am not sure that sacking coders and developers in the middle of coding fixes is a good idea.
Business at usual. You all at FDev knew exactly how the game ran and still runs, and that it wasn't nowhere near release-ready, yet you made another - most likely right - business call to release it. Gamers aren't exactly the most rational customers... Oh those sweet pre-orders!
Hope that the business reality changes and public perception of such tactics also changes soon enough - and as such - non-ethical decisions will stop bringing in revenue to those who choose to pursue those doubtful economic avenues.
It's all good David, no sweat. I knew given the history of ED, FDev, and comments through the alpha stage that this was a likely outcome, and given that you also didn't fully support VR, I canned the pre-order. Hopefully once you fix the game and implement VR, I'll bite - on a sale.
Well done.
Well done.
Yeah, that too.
At Steam Summer Sale 2023 I guess - given the pace of Fdev, bugs, terrible optimisation and prices of high-end PC hardware nowadays. 
Well something is definitely wrong. Looks like the beta never was.
My machine is Ryzen 5 3600X, RTX2070Super, 32GB RAM on a 3440x1440 144Hz monitor (free-sync/g-sync).
1- Although I set "on foot" mode to be keyboard/mouse, that wheel that pops with Q (how do you call it), doesn't make a move and expects me to use the HOTAS to make selections (!). Setting keyboard/mouse, should supply COMPLETE keyboard/mouse mapping for all the important tasks that can be performed on-foot.
2- The station I happened to be before Odyssey, when I disembarked was fine in performance (not perfect, but not what I heard people say). After I did a (horrible) little on-foot mission next planet and got back, the station performance sucked (stutter).
3- I think balancing/AI suffers (part A). I got a fine or something because I didn't holster my weapon (simply because I couldn't find the key that I needed to press), so I escaped to my ship, left for a few hundred meters (!), I landed just beside the outpost instead of the pad, nobody bothered me (!), I did the mission trying not anybody see me...
4- (part B)... then got a bit far so that I could call my ship (as I left the outpost from the far side), I called it, got in and then (and only then) after I departed, they realised they wanted to attack my ship.
5) (part C)... Which is an engineered Cutter and because it's been long since I last played ED (and I am rusty), I just left. They just hit me 2-3 times I expect... but this was enough to drop the shields of my engineered Cutter. Erm... so outposts have toughened up? And this because I didn't holster my weapon?
6- (ok this is minor) Not sure why I have to find the exact guy that gave me the mission and not just find him from the mission list when I arrive at the station? Esp. for non shady business.
7- Seems (like others I think reported), that graphics when on an outpost drop to simpler (ignore the settings).
8- IMPORTANT I saw it in a video and I verified myself. The game became WAY darker than before! Even within our own cockpit. Like enforcing a bad gamma or some HDR profile (even on non-HDR equipment).
...all in all (and this is just a personal feeling) I am not sure I will play Odyssey "mode" more than I have to. If I wanted an FPS or a "lite" RTS, there are plenty of WAY WAY better alternatives specialized on that exactly. ED-O feels like you just decided to try and get some fresh DIFFERENT people in the game. Which is fine I guess, but as I said, in this new "mode" it is mediocre at best, so not sure it succeeds.
If you ask me, I would be better with simple walking within our ships, around the ships in outposts and bases, that lounge area, without the extras, just for the immersion and sense of scale. But that's just me.
Sorry, you're new, I'm tired of "Jam Tomorrow" after what, five years? When they will iron out the problems and implement VR back, I will buy the resulting amazing game. Until then, no sale unless a hefty discount. Literally exercising my wallet voting rights.
So this is your last post then?
Those you categorized in group 1 here are considered sycophants by those who feel they have been exposed to a bait and switch scam. Who are found in category 2. By trolls I assume you mean the sycophants buying themselves with attacking group2?
And why on earth would it be? I'm having too much fun now on the forum
1. The update in terms of content is awesome, but nobody can enjoy it due to the disgusting optimization, this is number one for me. (40-60% system load at 40 fps)
2. Number two is the updated graphics, new textures would be enough, but why change the lighting, render and post-processing? the game looks even darker, there are no shadows, instead of them there are black spots without scattering, the picture looks soapy. And so you changed the photorealistic graphics to an incomprehensible dump. Is it possible to bring back the old lighting?
3. And third - glare at the edges of the helmet, make it possible to turn them off, I'm not an expert, but aren't these two mirrors devouring FPS?
4. Make the promised gtx 1060 give the promised 60 fps on the promised high settings. I refuse to play at 40, 50 and even 58 and 59 fps, our eyes feel drops even in 1 frame, especially after a gorgeous smooth picture in the previous version of the game
Thank you
2. Number two is the updated graphics, new textures would be enough, but why change the lighting, render and post-processing? the game looks even darker, there are no shadows, instead of them there are black spots without scattering, the picture looks soapy. And so you changed the photorealistic graphics to an incomprehensible dump. Is it possible to bring back the old lighting?
3. And third - glare at the edges of the helmet, make it possible to turn them off, I'm not an expert, but aren't these two mirrors devouring FPS?
4. Make the promised gtx 1060 give the promised 60 fps on the promised high settings. I refuse to play at 40, 50 and even 58 and 59 fps, our eyes feel drops even in 1 frame, especially after a gorgeous smooth picture in the previous version of the game
Thank you
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Would be nice if folks who bought directly from Fdev could log in at all. Oculus, Steam, and epic users are having a lot of trouble..... here is the current thinking on work arounds..
As one user said, every time the launcher opens, there is a tiny window of time before the pop-up appears. You need to figure out EXACTLY where on your screen the "upgrade" button will appear when the launcher opens. Launch the program, and start spam-clicking that spot on your screen. If you can click that button before the popup appears, the update will start and the popup will not appear.
Really???? this is a paid for game????
As one user said, every time the launcher opens, there is a tiny window of time before the pop-up appears. You need to figure out EXACTLY where on your screen the "upgrade" button will appear when the launcher opens. Launch the program, and start spam-clicking that spot on your screen. If you can click that button before the popup appears, the update will start and the popup will not appear.
Really???? this is a paid for game????
In the livestream yesterday he both apologised and talked about his own experience of encountering issues with Odyssey on launch night.
Today’s post was just the written apology. A needed thing too as not everyone watches the livestreams.
You're forgetting the people who love the concept of the game, but are tired of the devs completely dropping the ball with every update. Been playing this game since launch, and it seems like each patch just adds more bugs than fixes. In my opinion, this game has been getting worse and worse since launch.
But yeah, people are trolls for calling out a company for launching a $40 expansion that has obvious glaring bugs by just starting it, or looking at all the bugs reported in the Alpha that weren't fixed. A $40 DLC btw that effectively is still in Alpha or Beta considering how buggy it is. So yeah, I think people have a right to be incensed with FDev for paying money expecting a release version quality product instead of something that is obviously in Alpha or Beta.
How good was Horizons on day one?