Until recently I would have said that this sentiment is a little "extreme", but I am really bothered by the fact that Frontier continues to sell Odyssey as a finished, working product with ZERO warnings of its current state. The only thing letting potential buyers know that the game is horribly broken (IIRC) is the negative reviews. They didn't just "con" people, past tense, but they are actively doing so even now.
ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey Update 2021
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If Elder Scrolls online is any indication, then Starfield surely will have multiplayer. If not at release, then sometime later for sure. I'm certain they plan on adding a 'Starfield Online' expansion later. 
Why should they care if they know they'll get away with it? Its only in the game industry where you can sell someone a car without wheels and get away with it, so to speak. 
Well, that puts a lot of hyperbole into how influential frontier is or how many people who play this game count as a percentage of gamers in general. It's a drop in the bucket.
I'm sure plenty will pre order games or do kickstarters. I mean, kickstarting is the ultimate pre-order and plenty have been burned there and it still goes strong.
the only thing that might be true is that people will be hesitant to pre-order from frontier in the future. But i think that's about as far as that will extend.
exclusives are too attractive to stop the practice - and the practice doesn't really cause the bad behavior of releasing stuff before it's ready.
Its an analogy.
Now it's getting philosophical. Does falling down a cliff count as flying?
Indeed, and it's absurd to constantly pay developers who can't maintain a working product i.e. back to the car with no wheels.Depends. If you can flip the cliff upside down, maybe.
It is often only a tiny step from philosophy to absurdity... (I think I've just fallen over this cliff)
....and the circle is complete.
Obsidian Ant almost NEVER goes full negative. He's still trying to be polite about this. But you can tell he's intensely frustrated as well.
To re-iterate what I said in the comments section in the above video:
Frontier - you need to take note: If you've lost Obsidian Ant - you've REALLY pranged it into the ground!
So I'm in Mobia looking for the Pedersen's Legacy on planet 1A1 and there is no sign of it What the hell?
Hopefully it will be bug free unlike some games
What games companies don't get, is to put out high quality unbroken games then players will trust them by buying more from them making those companies bigger profits.
By telling the Dev's to rush out shoddy unworkable broken games so as too grab as much money as they can and lose out by no one buying a broken games or any future games and in the bargain lose reputation, trust and backers then see their shares prices drop, this is in my book bad business practice.
Other games companies who have done this, i don't give a ? how bad our goods are as long as we grab your money have either gone bust or sold out to companies that do give a ?, even some have been sued for their action.
So far FRONTIER is going down that dark road by forcing the Dev's too put out ODYSSEY in such a bad broken unfinished condition, then lied about what we were getting in the footfall play, so as too grab out money and run, you have lost faith in most players and ignoring the players concerns about how bad Odyssey is.
Yes there are snowflakes out there that will say this game is great, TAKE OFF THOSE ROSE TINTED GLASSES and see what you really paid for, you won't buy broken,shoddy unfinished products from the high street and say it's great works fine for me, no you would want it fixed even tell others to stay away from those goods, or have the trust the companies product of high quality goods that you keep buying from them.
Frontier FIX this mess before that dark road close and there is no recovery from this, don't force the games out before they are ready, let the Dev's do their job in a timely manor and able to work out any bugs so as to put out well made games.
Fix all bugs as reported don't ignore them, read the posts on players concerns/issues give feedback show that you do care and have pride in your game and players for their patience, and most of all APLOGISE for the mess you gave us.
By telling the Dev's to rush out shoddy unworkable broken games so as too grab as much money as they can and lose out by no one buying a broken games or any future games and in the bargain lose reputation, trust and backers then see their shares prices drop, this is in my book bad business practice.
Other games companies who have done this, i don't give a ? how bad our goods are as long as we grab your money have either gone bust or sold out to companies that do give a ?, even some have been sued for their action.
So far FRONTIER is going down that dark road by forcing the Dev's too put out ODYSSEY in such a bad broken unfinished condition, then lied about what we were getting in the footfall play, so as too grab out money and run, you have lost faith in most players and ignoring the players concerns about how bad Odyssey is.
Yes there are snowflakes out there that will say this game is great, TAKE OFF THOSE ROSE TINTED GLASSES and see what you really paid for, you won't buy broken,shoddy unfinished products from the high street and say it's great works fine for me, no you would want it fixed even tell others to stay away from those goods, or have the trust the companies product of high quality goods that you keep buying from them.
Frontier FIX this mess before that dark road close and there is no recovery from this, don't force the games out before they are ready, let the Dev's do their job in a timely manor and able to work out any bugs so as to put out well made games.
Fix all bugs as reported don't ignore them, read the posts on players concerns/issues give feedback show that you do care and have pride in your game and players for their patience, and most of all APLOGISE for the mess you gave us.
Totally with you but a third hollow apology? Will that help?
Probably NOT!, Compensation might, like free ship skins or Ark.
Sorry buddy, we buy them anyway. New Battlefield is coming this year. I enjoyed BF5, but it wasn't well liked. The new BF will be a big seller. New Word switched from PVP to a hybrid. Lots of comments about the lack of PVE content. It will sell well. On and on and one and on. FYI, I've loved EDO so far minus the disconnects.
HOW About reducing the grind, and adding tools that are efficient for the job.
WHY have to make everything so tedious and such a time sink ?
EXAMPLE:
1: SRV with real storage space, and collector limpets.
2: Why have to drop out of witch space at every star, let us choose.
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Agree with you on these, I had mentioned 2 a long time ago i know it's good to drop out at a star to refuel but choosing where to drop out would have that option.
To me it seams stupid to drop out at a star as if we are that close to most stars we'd burn up within 10 million plus Km. before we could move and shields would have little effect.
FDev's didn't learn this at school/collage.
I am a fan of this game. If I wouldn't like it, I would not play it. Nor would I write posts in forums concerning this game. Your ranting tells me you still care. Thanks for that.
Frontier are ISO9001 accredited, that's the Quality Management systems one:
Frontier Software reaps the rewards of ISO 9001 and ISO 27001 with the help of SGS United Kingdom Ltd
Frontier Software has been reaping the benefits of a single quality system encompassing both ISO 9001 and ISO 27001 standards with the help of SGS United Kingdom Ltd.
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Where's this roadmap, then?
Is Davo waiting 'till 4.59 pm on a Friday before pressing 'send' and then hurriedly switching off the laptop?
Is Davo waiting 'till 4.59 pm on a Friday before pressing 'send' and then hurriedly switching off the laptop?