“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”​

Including the space within Sol system 😁

How many have searched the orbits of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto?
Scoured the surfaces of their moons?
Seen “Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion”...
Oops, getting carried away there! 🙂
 

“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”​

Including the space within Sol system 😁

How many have searched the orbits of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto?
Scoured the surfaces of their moons?
Seen “Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion”...
Oops, getting carried away there! 🙂
Well, it is a valid option to check every inch of the solar system. But I don't think that's the solution, I still think that some kind of trigger needs to be activated to start the Raxxla plot. It could be any system.

Do you want some tinfoil? Why Sol? Why not Sirius?

-Sirius is locked by a permit, any casual gamer couldn't randomly discover Raxxla.

-Sirius is the headquarters of the oldest mega-corporation in the game, why did they choose this place and not another? It only contains two planets and their names are very suspicious: Lucifer and Waypoint. A waypoint to where or what?

-Sirius Corporation are the creators of the new FSD for all ships, perhaps they had access to extraterrestrial technology (RAXXLA).

-Sirius has anomalies when flying within the system with the message "Frame Shift Drive operating beyond safety limits".

-Sirius, in spanish is written "Sirio", changing the letters you get Oisir (OISIR-RAXXLA from the book The Alien World)

-The photo from the Chandra X-ray observatory shows Sirius B suspiciously shaped like a hexagon.

Many systems seem to have some secrets, I don't think we will ever find anything without some kind of clue.
 

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Ok, if this is true then we have the following possibilities:
1 - if that cmdr honked the basic or intermediate scanner (pre-3.4 ED had basic, intermediate and advanced, and only the advanced could scan the whole system), and if Raxxla was further than 500 or 1000 ls then it's still hidden. (I find this the most likely scenario)
2 - if said cmdr had the advanced scanner then he found the planet that holds Raxxla but didn't go there. It might mean it was not apparent at long distances and he had to visit each body and didn't - IMHO FDev were then giving us a hand here when they introduced the FSS, at least let's hope so.
2a - if an EDSM/EDDB/INARA E: D account link was present then that system is on their databases (incompletely scanned most likely)
2b - if the account wasn't linked then it's only present in Univ Cartographics (if the cmdr didn't blow the ship before selling the data) .... aaand we have nothing.
If the legend of the honked system is true, the system has likely been visited many times since. The story is old. Jump ranges were limited and space was big, back then. I suspect the system is fully mapped in EDSM, by now.

I believe your option 1. is most likely. Anything that doesn't show on scan is hard to find. Even locating the Voyagers was tricky and they were on a set course, at known velocity, in a known system. Imagine tracking down Proxima Centauri, if it didn't scan. That would be a monumental task, even though it glows and the orbital plane and distance are known. At 0.1ly, a system becomes very large.
 
Well, it is a valid option to check every inch of the solar system. But I don't think that's the solution, I still think that some kind of trigger needs to be activated to start the Raxxla plot. It could be any system.

Do you want some tinfoil? Why Sol? Why not Sirius?

-Sirius is locked by a permit, any casual gamer couldn't randomly discover Raxxla.

-Sirius is the headquarters of the oldest mega-corporation in the game, why did they choose this place and not another? It only contains two planets and their names are very suspicious: Lucifer and Waypoint. A waypoint to where or what?

-Sirius Corporation are the creators of the new FSD for all ships, perhaps they had access to extraterrestrial technology (RAXXLA).

-Sirius has anomalies when flying within the system with the message "Frame Shift Drive operating beyond safety limits".

-Sirius, in spanish is written "Sirio", changing the letters you get Oisir (OISIR-RAXXLA from the book The Alien World)

-The photo from the Chandra X-ray observatory shows Sirius B suspiciously shaped like a hexagon.

Many systems seem to have some secrets, I don't think we will ever find anything without some kind of clue.
Sirius is always a good place to search. It was the first permit I got, when I started of (I had the Sol and Founders permit from start).
There is plenty of mythology of Sirius C and and aliens.
 
Well, it is a valid option to check every inch of the solar system. But I don't think that's the solution, I still think that some kind of trigger needs to be activated to start the Raxxla plot. It could be any system.

Do you want some tinfoil? Why Sol? Why not Sirius?

-Sirius is locked by a permit, any casual gamer couldn't randomly discover Raxxla.

-Sirius is the headquarters of the oldest mega-corporation in the game, why did they choose this place and not another? It only contains two planets and their names are very suspicious: Lucifer and Waypoint. A waypoint to where or what?

-Sirius Corporation are the creators of the new FSD for all ships, perhaps they had access to extraterrestrial technology (RAXXLA).

-Sirius has anomalies when flying within the system with the message "Frame Shift Drive operating beyond safety limits".

-Sirius, in spanish is written "Sirio", changing the letters you get Oisir (OISIR-RAXXLA from the book The Alien World)

-The photo from the Chandra X-ray observatory shows Sirius B suspiciously shaped like a hexagon.

Many systems seem to have some secrets, I don't think we will ever find anything without some kind of clue.

Well, you are perfectly at liberty to believe Raxxla is in Sirius system, for the reasons you state, and search there. This is the right place to chew the fat tinfoil!

But I’m not convinced by your hypothesis
Why Spanish? Is there any evidence that the Guardians spoke Spanish? Why not Russian or Egyptian or Romanian or...Just because one piece of (stretched) evidence meets a hypothesis doesnt make it a valid theory.
The FSD anomalies in Sirius also used to occur frequently in many systems-in fact any with a NS or WD. For example last time I was there it was happening in van Maanen's Star, quite recently.

I suspect that Chandra photo is showing the diffraction pattern from the vanes holding the secondary mirror; such patterns are seen in most reflecting telescopes.

For me the deciding factors for Sol are
A) the Mars artefact shows aliens visited Sol in the distant past
B) the Raxxla logo shows the astronomical symbol for Sol, surrounded by the three arcs that represent asteroid belt (for in-game evidence see this symbol at the entrance to asteroid bases)
C) first report of a Raxxla rumour was in 2296, so evidence must have been found prior to that date.
D) Codex: UC- “the merger of Omphalos Infotech and Devaine-Bright Interstellar”
E) Federation-FTL tech became available 22nd Cent (2100s), first stars settled were Tau Ceti, Delta Pavonis, Beta Hydri and Altair. Tau Ceti rebelled in 2161 (130 years before first mention of Raxxla myth in 2296). Sirius wasnt colonised until 2339. If Raxxla had been found and was exploitable then its system would have been rapidly colonised.
F) the DW toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
To Raxxla!"
Seems to me to fit Sol better than Sirius (& I have checked out Sirius in the past!), in fact better than any other system
Jewel= Sol/Earth (Galnet 14 June 3301 “Sol is the birthplace of our race, the shining jewel of our galaxy.”)
Whisperer+Siren =Venus (dual Marvel comic characters)
Parent’s grief, lover’s woe = Greek myth of Cronus (Roman Saturn), Rhea (his sister/spouse) and Uranus (their father). Together with the codex mention of the Omphalos, since Rhea fed Cronus the Omphalos Stone in lieu of their child Zeus (Roman Jupiter).

I think there were some other factors that convinced me to base my search in Sol, but the memory is frail and lunch is calling...but I’ve come to this conclusion after several years of searching, involving more than a few hundred LY travelled. We have clues, several, but they don’t make much sense. The sense they do make seems to me to point to Sol. I suspect the storyline is that Voyager 1/2/New Horizons found Raxxla hints & that was confirmed when the artefact was found. If any group of men control Raxxla it’s the Feds.
 
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Well, you are perfectly at liberty to believe Raxxla is in Sirius system, for the reasons you state, and search there. This is the right place to chew the fat tinfoil!

But I’m not convinced by your hypothesis
Why Spanish? Is there any evidence that the Guardians spoke Spanish? Why not Russian or Egyptian or Romanian or...Just because one piece of (stretched) evidence meets a hypothesis doesnt make it a valid theory.
The FSD anomalies in Sirius also used to occur frequently in many systems-in fact any with a NS or WD. For example last time I was there it was happening in van Maanen's Star, quite recently.

I suspect that Chandra photo is showing the diffraction pattern from the vanes holding the secondary mirror; such patterns are seen in most reflecting telescopes.

For me the deciding factors for Sol are
A) the Mars artefact shows aliens visited Sol in the distant past
B) the Raxxla logo shows the astronomical symbol for Sol, surrounded by the three arcs that represent asteroid belt (for in-game evidence see this symbol at the entrance to asteroid bases)
C) first report of a Raxxla rumour was in 2296, so evidence must have been found prior to that date.
D) Codex: UC- “the merger of Omphalos Infotech and Devaine-Bright Interstellar”
E) Federation-FTL tech became available 22nd Cent (2100s), first stars settled were Tau Ceti, Delta Pavonis, Beta Hydri and Altair. Tau Ceti rebelled in 2161 (130 years before first mention of Raxxla myth in 2296). Sirius wasnt colonised until 2339. If Raxxla had been found and was exploitable then its system would have been rapidly colonised.
F) the DW toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
To Raxxla!"
Seems to me to fit Sol better than Sirius (& I have checked out Sirius in the past!), in fact better than any other system
Jewel= Sol/Earth (Galnet 14 June 3301 “Sol is the birthplace of our race, the shining jewel of our galaxy.”)
Whisperer+Siren =Venus (dual Marvel comic characters)
Parent’s grief, lover’s woe = Greek myth of Cronus (Roman Saturn), Rhea (his sister/spouse) and Uranus (their father). Together with the codex mention of the Omphalos, since Rhea fed Cronus the Omphalos Stone in lieu of their child Zeus (Roman Jupiter).

I think there were some other factors that convinced me to base my search in Sol, but the memory is frail and lunch is calling...
Yeah, you're right, you have your point of view and it's valid like any other, I did not want you to feel offended with my post, and if it has been the case, I apologize.

I don't mean to say that you or I are wrong, I don't even think it's on Sirius. I have chosen this system randomly just because I just saw the photos of the Chandra X-ray observatory and the image they have of Sirio B. I have chosen "Sirio", in Spanish, because I am Spanish and the letters coincide with Oisir . I have only put it as an example of how any system could be suspected of containing Raxxla in it. I could pull out hundreds of theories about anything and tie it to Raxxla. What I mean is that without a solid track it is impossible for us to find it.
 
I'm sure this has nothing to do with Raxxla, but has anyone seen the ten second video posted on facebook? It contains seven codes that I have put together in the same image. I'm not an expert on codes, if anyone has any idea what they mean ...
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|A1 |B2 |A3 |C3 \A1
|C1 |A1_B2 \B1
\A1 |A1 \A2 |B2
|A1 _C2\C1
_C2 _B2_C3 \A3
|C3
|C1 |A1 _B2
 
Yes, anything can be speculated to bring it closer to Raxxla's theory.

For example, it can be a pulsar (G11.2-0.3):

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Or it could be a nebula (Lemon Slide Nebula):

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It might even be V'GER from Star Trek :unsure::
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I used to lean towards lemon slice until fleet carriers made it there to no avail. I still don't always trust the lack of findings from those not specifically looking for Raxxla though so I can't be sure it's not. Unless someone here has put a good search through it. I'd go myself but cbf dealing with all that time spent on the carrier plotting routes and not really playing.
 
I used to lean towards lemon slice until fleet carriers made it there to no avail. I still don't always trust the lack of findings from those not specifically looking for Raxxla though so I can't be sure it's not. Unless someone here has put a good search through it. I'd go myself but cbf dealing with all that time spent on the carrier plotting routes and not really playing.
I was visiting the Lemon Slice with my FC but I didn't find anything. I also didn't do an exhaustive search because I wanted to go back to the bubble to make a Community Goal that interested me so much. Maybe in the future I'll take another look.
 
Yeah, you're right, you have your point of view and it's valid like any other, I did not want you to feel offended with my post, and if it has been the case, I apologize.

I don't mean to say that you or I are wrong, I don't even think it's on Sirius. I have chosen this system randomly just because I just saw the photos of the Chandra X-ray observatory and the image they have of Sirio B. I have chosen "Sirio", in Spanish, because I am Spanish and the letters coincide with Oisir . I have only put it as an example of how any system could be suspected of containing Raxxla in it. I could pull out hundreds of theories about anything and tie it to Raxxla. What I mean is that without a solid track it is impossible for us to find it.
No problem, no offence taken in any way & no need to apologise! I just used to be a scientist so formulating hypotheses, testing them, promotion of better ones to become theories, which produce predictions, which are tested, and either give confidence in the theory or it crashes & burns (see link to Scientific Method in my signature). That’s what I was trained to do and I do like this thread for the discussions we have. I do sometimes get grumpy (especially when my dog wakes me up in the early hours), but more often am just being pedantic. Everyone is (mostly) polite here and we can say anything we want, it will be argued over, suggestions made, flaws pointed out & encouragement given. It’s a nice group! 🙂

I agree you could select any system to search for Raxxla. I’ve done that myself in the past, been off to the Heart & Soul nebulae, searched the Broken Heart Nebula & Cluster (which are quite far apart!) before jump ranges were as good as they are now. I’ve even been out to Goliaths Rest and back! But I do think we have been given clues (especially the codex, but some in-game tourist beacons etc) & its up to us to chase them down. I’ve been out this week to Uranus’ moon Ariel, because there’s an NPC ship with that name that crops up. You can indeed interpret them in multiple ways of course; FD arent going to make it easy for us! And it wouldn’t be a worthwhile Quest if it was easy! 😉

Hablo un poco español aqui! (hace veinte años tuve una novia Madrileña). Pero he olvidado mucho!

Edit: there are separate threads for anything to do with Azimuth Biochemicals, Hesperus and Adamastor. Thus is the latest one https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ge-from-salvation.581536/page-26#post-9345442.

Read the last page or two, that coded message was decoded, see: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ew-message-from-salvation.581536/post-9347111
 
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Edit: there are separate threads for anything to do with Azimuth Biochemicals, Hesperus and Adamastor. Thus is the latest one https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ge-from-salvation.581536/page-26#post-9345442.

Read the last page or two, that coded message was decoded, see: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ew-message-from-salvation.581536/post-9347111
Ok thanks, I didn't know there was a thread dedicated to The Azimuth Saga. I have already read the translation of the code, a bit scary ...

I actually think you may have been the one who I got the route from lol
Yes, I have been checking the thread and I was the one who passed you the path to Lemon Slice.:LOL:
 
Ok thanks, I didn't know there was a thread dedicated to The Azimuth Saga. I have already read the translation of the code, a bit scary ...


Yes, I have been checking the thread and I was the one who passed you the path to Lemon Slice.:LOL:
well, I think that's actually the second Hesperus thread. Might make more sense to just have one, but people create threads ad hoc & it is difficult to keep aware of them. I rely on people here to give me a heads up if anything is relevant! :)
 
He answered with "Yes. And we know where it is." (I assumed the "we" meant Frontier Developments).

Strange how he didn’t say “I know where it is”…. And assuming he meant FD is a natural assumption, but it could mean the player base/Elite community….

I’m guessing he’d expect someone to ask about it at some point (especially if they had put it in game) and may have prepared an answer with a cryptic clue…

Or you may have caught him off guard and he let it slip because he was desperate for a beer? 😉
 
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