Like I always say its best to drive your own bandwagon... else you will never get where you are going
Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?
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I've followed OA since way, way back. You know, when he came here to say he couldn't make vids because his computer broke down. I stopped following him some time ago. Check this video:
Its just a regular dude, playing a game, and giving his opinion as he goes. It was cool. Now pick a random (last year or two) recent video and just listen to his voice. He became a clickbait Streamer cossplaying the original OA.
"iS iT tOo lAtE fOr Fd tO TurN aRoUnD?!?! CoMmEnT, lIkE & SuBScrIbe!!!!!"
Hello guys and girls!
They do beneifit from short term sensasionalism and echo chamber discussion though.
The problems with Odyssey's launch have been obvious but the only way they're likely to be resolved is with developer's patient hard work, clear heads and not having the funding rug pulled out .. especially by people who owe their patreon account balances to the content they exploit. I think the "content creators" (sic.) have developed a sense of panic. Good for them because it creates clicks, not so good for anyone else.
What they should do is stick to the game content / performance entirely and not start attack narratives on the devs, their communication or even their development strategy. Camplaining about unknown management decisions is clear undermining of confidence in the people involved that has nothing to do with anything. (@Obsidian Ant )
Personally I ostracized Yamicks due to his repeated claims the FD staff should be 'sexually abused' (use other terms if you can think of them) everytime he wasn't happy with something. I dont care if people dont like this or that game, but what Yamicks repeatedly said is beyond the pale. Its not 'locker room talk'. Regardless of the state of the game, Yamicks, and anyone who condones that kind of garbage, is simply not a very nice person.
Good grief, yeah - doesn't even sound like the same person. But... just like the game itself, things evolve and change. At some point, his channel/streams took off, and to keep it going we have what we have now. (And now I've had a "look through the archives" haha) the polishing started quickly:
That aside, I still don't fault him for, nor do I begrudge him, his opinion. He's fully entitled to it. But like someone said in another thread (might have even been this one, there are enough saying the same thing!) about Drew Wagar, its worth remembering that at the end of the day theirs is just another opinion in a sea of them.
And yet he is so loyal to Elite: Dangerous that he's probably one of the last streamers left.
Ironic.
Going toxic, offensive and fully negative certainly is not a way how to help improve situation and I'm personally very pleased that such behaviour is not welcomed anymore. The ball is now on Frontier side of playfield, it is theirs game and they can change numerous things with already existing content. Time will tell if there is interest doing so. Personally I got enough fun from ED and do not regret any of my purchases here. I also like possibilities which EDO have oppened. Therefore I wish 2Frontier success with turning around current situation ... it certainly cannot happen overnight, but they are the only ones who can do it.
That I agree with. If "content creators" are whipping players into a frenzy, and are now organizing an exodus (there is something not sitting right with me that in the space of a couple of days, so many of them are suddenly lockstep migrating to SC... it's almost like they had a conference about it and agreed to jump together?) which in turn is contributing to the harassment of devs and whatnot, then yes that is a negative thing.
@Obsidian Ant perhaps it might be something to include/address in your next Elite video, that the... shall we say stringent backlash of some members of the community could be having a negative impact on further development/repairs to the game and it'd be in the best interests all round to keep criticism civil?
If you consider loyalty to be endlessly dumping on something for the peanut gallery whilst shaking the patreon tin, then yes. Personally, I don't.
But it's their channel. They can do what they like.
Evidently that's the way it is,t doesn't mean it's healthy though. The people who kickstarted the game for example, have supported the project long enough to know developing it is an incremental process (that you have to have a bar, before you can add any kind of cyborg bartender, for example) who maybe don't have enough regular hours or cash to set up similar channels, to give alternate viewpoints (I'm a cleantech research engineer) also lose out - possibly lose their game - while these guys have a little circle jerk.
Content creators reporting on how bad Odyssey is aren't the problem. They're just calling it as they see it. As most of us see it (and not because of the content creators, but because we can see it for ourselves).
The thing about iterative development is that it has to be iterating towards something, and right now that isn't anywhere in particular. Every addon and patch is disconnected from the rest, and it's a jumbled mess. Odyssey may have been the biggest patch they've ever done (as a Kickstarter LEP owner who didn't actually have to buy Odyssey), but that just means it has the biggest chasms. Hell, they even had to split the whole userbase in two to make it happen. What does that tell you?
Content creators didn't create this situation. Frontier Developments did. Attacking the messenger is not helpful.
If I was to guess a ring leader?
The Pilot. Even Yamiks kisses his boots (because he made some nicely edited shorts on the ship models once).
No. they all watch each other's videos mate. Refer to each other's streams, I've heard them.
Have 'round table' discussions where it's just them. lol
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Just as a passing comment:
I've had derogatory comments and 'thumb down' on a few of my Odyssey livestreams (the comments have been removed, obviously)
Yet they are just play - no commentary, no editing, no "click like & subscribe" tat...
Interesting
I've had derogatory comments and 'thumb down' on a few of my Odyssey livestreams (the comments have been removed, obviously)
Yet they are just play - no commentary, no editing, no "click like & subscribe" tat...
Interesting
Of course they do - I watched that video. It was fun.
But they also play (and fundamentally love) the game too. They're as sad as the rest of us at what Frontier delivered.
This is very true. But as mentioned above, content creators jumping on the hype bandwagon and pouring petrol on the fire isn't either. If content creators loved the game as much as we're being led to believe, then encouraging their followers to engage in CIVIL criticism rather than focusing on how Frontier are greedily ripping them off (while, as someone said, giving a shoutout to their sponsors, shaking the Patreon tin, and demanding you to like and subscribe) would be more beneficial to all. Surely you can see that it's just not a good situation that the ONLY people who can actually fix the mess are being harassed and threatened?Content creators didn't create this situation. Frontier Developments did. Attacking the messenger is not helpful.
the funny thing is I haven't seen a boom of sc nms x4 or other game channels so I still fail to see how any of this is important news
Echo chamber.
not really
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