Drew Wagar's Thoughts

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Well no, because I don't have the followers that Drew has, nor any commercial interest in Elite.

Nobody cares what I think, nor you.
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If I wouldn't care about other people's thoughts, in this case about, yes, a computer game, I wouldn't be here in the first place, and shout into the void on Tw@er instead.
 
How many times has he left now?
To be fair, he's quit the forum a few times now (says the kettle about the pot), but I believe this is the first time Drew has announced that he's actually quitting the game itself.

Personally, I think that paints oneself into a corner, because who knows if Odyssey will be great or not in 2022? I actually think Odyssey has potential. Look at how far NMS has come since its launch. Can Frontier pull off a Hello Games recovery? I have no idea. I wouldn't bet on it, but I'm not ready to bet against it either, which is kinda what Drew did.
 
It's ok to feel disappointed with the game. It's ok to feel like playing something else. It's ok to decide to leave Elite Dangerous for good and never come back, heck it's even ok to state that on these forums and elsewhere. Just don't expect anyone to give a damn if you do move on.
What's not ok is to release a half baked cake. It's still not fixed half a year later.

Honestly the whole "just leave" is tiresome.
 
Amused not salty.

If you say so. 🤷‍♀️

Drew wrote two books on E: D lore, had at least one in-game event sponsored by the devs, and (although memory may be faulty here) also came up with the idea of using one Kickstarter to fund another (the writer's pack at £4500), which helped the game get made in the first place. He's been a major figure in E: D lore generation for almost a decade, because of his earlier work with previous Elite-ish games.

So it's really not that surprising that when he announces he's leaving for good (admit he has done this before, but this time I feel is different), people care about that and want to talk about the reasons why. For some people, including Drew, Elite is more than "just a computer game".

Sorry if that's "amusing" to you, but you need better jokes than laughing at other people's understandable disappointment.
 
Having been here a while (since before Elite Dangerous was announced), let me pass on my suggestion to you all, something Drew (as clever a man as he is) never realised. Don't place expectations on Elite Dangerous, or on Frontier. Accept the game for what it is. Play the parts you enjoy, leave the parts you don't.
While I actually agree with your post, one of the biggest problems I have with Elite is "what it is" keeps changing. I'm talking about the parts I like. People love smuggling, and then smuggling is broken by an update. People love looting megaships, but then megaships are broken by an update. People like Drew love the Lore, but then the Lore is abandoned and retconned. Things that I still enjoy about Elite are being threatened by the supposed inevitable merger of Odyssey code back into Horizons.

Heck, this is my story with this game since the beginning - it was released on PS4 as an amazing game, but then updates killed it on that platform for me, thanks to graphical bugs (EBL, DDS, etc) and performance hits that changed the way the game looked and feels. I come to PC and now here I am again, threatened by the "promise" of terrible shadows (Odyssey shadows suck cabbage), inflatable round mountains, cut-n-paste terrain features, awful lighting, and dismal performance. I "accepted the game for what it is" back when 2.3 first released on PS4, but it's been downhill* ever since :p

* a bit of an exaggeration for dramatic effect, as my current favorite gameloop - defending installations in VR, came later.
 
Sorry if that's "amusing" to you, but you need better jokes than laughing at other people's understandable disappointment.
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Sorry if that's "amusing" to you, but you need better jokes than laughing at other people's understandable disappointment.

I do apologise for finding it amusing that an author who once had a relationship with Frontier years ago is no longer going to play the game (again) or write fanfic.

I didn't realise the totemic importance it has for some people here.
 
Drew has a tiny audience. All of his non ED videos have miniscule viewcounts. His ED videos not much better. 'Announcing' he is leaving' will effect no-one. Claiming that this is somehow significant is amusing.
 
If you say so. 🤷‍♀️

Drew wrote two books on E: D lore, had at least one in-game event sponsored by the devs, and (although memory may be faulty here) also came up with the idea of using one Kickstarter to fund another (the writer's pack at £4500), which helped the game get made in the first place. He's been a major figure in E: D lore generation for almost a decade, because of his earlier work with previous Elite-ish games.

So it's really not that surprising that when he announces he's leaving for good (admit he has done this before, but this time I feel is different), people care about that and want to talk about the reasons why. For some people, including Drew, Elite is more than "just a computer game".

Sorry if that's "amusing" to you, but you need better jokes than laughing at other people's understandable disappointment.
It can only be down to jealousy why some people feel the need to constantly post negative comments about Drew. He blazed his own trail, like only a handful of other players in this community have managed to do over the past 9 years or so... he's among a dedicated few who made their mark, brought some fun times to thousands of players with the events they created, embraced the lore and even added to it.

The talented people this community once boasted added a lot to the whole experience that was Elite Dangerous (especially when there was preciously little content or story coming from the game devs themselves!), but in leaving the game behind and moving on, they suddenly become easy targets for the jealous no marks who'll never create or achieve anything noteworthy if they're still playing this game in 10 years time.

The same mindset will be moaning in a year or two that the game is now soulless, and asking why there are no more epic events.
 
Drew has a tiny audience. All of his non ED videos have miniscule viewcounts. His ED videos not much better. 'Announcing' he is leaving' will effect no-one. Claiming that this is somehow significant is amusing.

Well, it would have been better if a scifi writer had found ED and now had started playing it, instead of leaving, wouldn't it? I'm sure you will survive him leaving, but I don't see a lot of new players rushing in. I'd like that.
 
Drew has been far more involved with ED than any of us; official author, the in-game event, etc.

His opinions certainly matter, especially to like-minded individuals, even though he prefaces his thoughts with being simply his personal opinions.

One thing he said rang loudly with me, that Odyssey, as an fps, is not in the spirit of Elite Dangerous.

It's something to consider, that beyond performance issues, perhaps ED:O was a design mistake.
 
How many times has he left now?
You know, I just wondered about that too, so I decided to go take a look.

Turns out this was complicated a bit because he seems to have removed his Elite blog posts, but from a quick search (took me five minutes or so), it looks like he posted that he's leaving in 2015, 2017, 2020 and 2021. Maybe in 2018 too, but the only reference I found there was to a blog entry that was removed, so I can no longer check. In any case, the only year when he didn't post anything here on the forums was 2018, so that might not have been it.
 
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