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Jmanis

Jmanis
Mrat13 said:
Becuase it's a competitive CG against another CG without the same supply restraints. Even if more players support it, if the supplies run out, the other side wins, and there is nothing players can do about it. That's bad game design.
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I think it does have the same supply restraints though. Whether players get data through relog-fests or what-not, it's slow going. Meanwhile, just like the last Colonia CG, you'll get the periodic market resupplies. Provided people are just waiting for that respawn, without invoking @Ian Doncaster levels of market knowledge, the gather rates should be roughly equivalent.

tl;dr one (data) has a slow, constant gather rate, the other (trade) has larger, but peaky gather rate.

EDIT: I'd also argue that there's actually no requirement for the CGs to be fair anyway, and an asymmetric competitive CG which is well balanced is superior to a straight-up "two identical CGs, just pick who you want to support"
 

Mrat13

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Jmanis said:
EDIT: I'd also argue that there's actually no requirement for the CGs to be fair anyway, and an asymmetric competitive CG which is well balanced is superior to a straight-up "two identical CGs, just pick who you want to support"
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Except it isn't balanced when the supplies run out. By which I mean they don't restock. What can a player do then? Their player agency is gone, and that is surely a problem.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Mrat13 said:
Except it isn't balanced when the supplies run out. By which I mean they don't restock. What can a player do then? Their player agency is gone, and that is surely a problem.
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Markets do restock though, every 10 minutes, which was my original point; we're comparing:
  • Consistently earning a handful of materials, to a sum total of X (gathering data materials) over a period of 10 minutes; or
  • Every 10 minutes, getting Y tonnes of a good instantly, then doing nothing for the next 10 minutes.

... where X and Y are comparable in size. That feels balanced and deliberate.

But my point remains; I argue competitive CGs don't necessarily need to be fair. How that "unfairness" is shaped can be because earn rates are slower or opportunity to act reduced, or any number of other reasons. There's already plenty of CGs where victory for one side is by a landslide; if FD read the room and realise one side is the moral favourite, incentivising the other side would keep things interesting. The fact most competitive CGs are and remain balanced throughout their entire run is, in my opinion, a major flaw.
 
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Jmanis said:
Every 10 minutes, getting Y tonnes of a good instantly, then doing nothing for the next 10 minutes.
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Looking at the markets (and noting that initial Power Convertor stocks are still available anyway for now), with the right ship you might be able to optimise further - jump out to the selling region, hop between the two biggest markets until full, jump back.

If you can find a couple reasonably close to the star, that might let you make 2 purchases every ten minute cycle, dump them to a carrier, repeat.

(With carefully coordinated use of wing nav-locks, it might even be possible to get closer to 3 purchases per cycle, but I don't know the markets and systems involved so I couldn't say for certain, and some of the restock rates might be high enough not to need it)
 

Factabulous

Factabulous

NEO-MARLINIST FORCES GATHER IN MUDHRID​

19 NOV 3307
The megaship Steel Majesty has arrived in the Mudhrid system after being taken over by NMLA terrorists.
Its original owning faction, the Neo-Marlinist Order of Mudhrid, has officially reclaimed the vessel. Margrave Corentin Delacroix, the faction’s new military ruler and the son of former Landgrave Arastin Delacroix, announced:
“The Steel Majesty has returned home to fulfil its destiny. Be warned: should any ships attempt to board or attack, all the former crewmembers still onboard will be executed.”
Senior Agent Tanya Ramirez gave a statement on behalf of ACT:
“Unfortunately, we cannot take action while hundreds of innocent people remain captive. But the NMLA’s effort to assemble troops, supporters and resources must not succeed. Having the Steel Majesty as a mobile base will allow them to regroup for a new campaign of terror – especially if they manage to reach Theta Seven before we do.”
A spokesperson for the Epsilon Fornacis Empire Group, which controls the Mudhrid system, claimed:
“The hostages should be considered lost as casualties of war. We are prepared to perform our duty for the Empire once again by destroying the Neo-Marlinist threat.”
 

Jaden Capek

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Factabulous said:

NEO-MARLINIST FORCES GATHER IN MUDHRID​

19 NOV 3307
The megaship Steel Majesty has arrived in the Mudhrid system after being taken over by NMLA terrorists.
Its original owning faction, the Neo-Marlinist Order of Mudhrid, has officially reclaimed the vessel. Margrave Corentin Delacroix, the faction’s new military ruler and the son of former Landgrave Arastin Delacroix, announced:
“The Steel Majesty has returned home to fulfil its destiny. Be warned: should any ships attempt to board or attack, all the former crewmembers still onboard will be executed.”
Senior Agent Tanya Ramirez gave a statement on behalf of ACT:
“Unfortunately, we cannot take action while hundreds of innocent people remain captive. But the NMLA’s effort to assemble troops, supporters and resources must not succeed. Having the Steel Majesty as a mobile base will allow them to regroup for a new campaign of terror – especially if they manage to reach Theta Seven before we do.”
A spokesperson for the Epsilon Fornacis Empire Group, which controls the Mudhrid system, claimed:
“The hostages should be considered lost as casualties of war. We are prepared to perform our duty for the Empire once again by destroying the Neo-Marlinist threat.”
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Classy. And of course the Imperial faction doesn't care about the Marlinist hostages and wants to write them off as casualties. Easy to say when you don't recognize them as your own people.
 

Jaden Capek

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maehara said:
Fairly blatant setup for a kill the NMLA / kill the hostages moral dilemma there.

May I just say, speaking as a loyal Imperial citizen, that the Epsilon Fornacis Empire Group are doing a great job of making themselves look like the bad guys here.
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I like the moral ambiguity. Makes the CG interesting instead of "oh, two hours in and we already know who's gonna win in a landslide".
 

Amata Lirein

Amata Lirein
As I posted in the news-discussion-thread:

Amata Lirein said:
Tough situation for sure... but should no other option present itself (and these options must be evaluated before pursuing the ultima ratio) then risking the death of the hostages must be deemed a necessary sacrifice, especially when you consider how many innocent lives only one of those NMLA enzyme bombs already caused and could cause in the future. The needs of the many ultimately outweigh the needs of the few here.
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maehara

maehara
Amata Lirein said:
As I posted in the news-discussion-thread:
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Yes, but if that was EFEG's approach the PR would be "....while every effort will be made to protect the lives of the hostages held on the Steel Majesty, we cannot allow the NMLA threat to stand and will respond accordingly." Which is a whole world of difference from "Eh, eff them. Let's just call them dead already."
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster

Colonia Bridge Project Faces Possible Changes​

19 NOV 3307
Brewer Corporation is enhancing the travel corridor to Colonia, but details about the project’s next phase remain uncertain.
Business-related newsfeed The Tau Ceti Journal published this feature:
“There’s no doubt that Brewer Corporation always thinks big. It has enjoyed huge commercial success as a manufacturer of starports and outposts, and its Drake-class fleet carrier has been enormously popular.”
“The Colonia Bridge is the megacorp’s most expensive undertaking yet, investing hundreds of billions of credits on the transportation infrastructure between the core systems and Colonia. More than one analyst predicted that the project might financially destabilise them.”
“The first two phases proceeded on schedule. Before the end of this month, there will be a chain of 56 stationary megaships along systems between Alcor and Colonia.”
“But there are rumours of a change of plans for phase three, which may be early next year. It is believed that Brewer Corporation is revising its plans based on the unexpectedly high levels of participation from the galactic community.”
“In support of this, one company insider did reveal that more engineered frame shift drives are being manufactured, to be offered as incentives to contributing pilots in the third phase.”
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So not phase 3 in December, then...
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
I wonder if the expectation was that the first two phases wouldn't get 5/5 finishes across all four CGs (normally, of course, a pretty safe bet!), so there'd need to be a third round to finish off the infrastructure?
 

Kryxix

Kryxix

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