I'm tapping out of this thread for a while till Mole returns, this is getting very cringe.
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When did I say it was released? Tech can be broken but mechanically complete. Just because you have a crack in your phone screen doesn't mean it won't work.
None to date. Maybe in a future update, just like with SC.So on a par between the 2 games there.
Yes, that's a fair point, but they aren't actually in the main game yet. It would be like FD adding Thargons to CQC.
Any comments about the life in SC vs the life in ED as it exists today? It seemed as though you wanted to make a point about life in SC when you said
I've shown there are quite a lot of lifeforms in ED, probably more than in SC.
Heh, it happens. I think Mole will also steer clear until the current (censored word that shouldn't be)-for-tat passes. Its all good fun.
I know this Armstrong thing is a meme at this point with ED players, but if you're going to use a marketing slogan like that be sure no one already does it better because if they do you're in for some ridicule and deservedly so....
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Viajero
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You can also step out! Maybe!
"[Finding a way out a game breaking bug when stepping out] is the only thing keeping me involved. Otherwise I would have already quit and I would be playing Vanguard, having fun"
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I'm just waiting for a lull in the hullabaloo with all the chimps at this particular tea party throwing
at eachother. Very entertaining 
I'll go watch Dune again I think...
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You can also step out! Maybe!
"[Finding a way out a game breaking bug when stepping out] is the only thing keeping me involved. Otherwise I would have already quit and I would be playing Vanguard, having fun."
Chat is full of FUD
Everyone knows the technology is actually fully meshed. Like a broken phone. Or something.
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I'm just waiting for a lull in between all the chimps at this particular tea party throwing
I'll go watch Dune again I think...
If the chimps found enough time between
throwing to play the game they might like it, maybe that is what they are afraid of?
This thread needs a PPS meter...posts per second lol.
20 systems? Packed with stuff? No no no....they are filling the one system with everything they can, because having another system is not going to work the way they have it. When I was able to last long enough, I went from one planet to another, in SC, and it took 15 minutes. That's 15 minutes to load all the packed in goodness of one planet. How long to load another system? Thats why I keep saying it'll be faster to log out, rejoin from the start menu. And that's assuming they have a second system.
Lets assume SC gets to a point where they have 5 systems. You dont think system 3 will start having all the same stuff in it as system 1? The problem with throwing everything plus the kitchen sink into the one system, everything else to come will be copy/paste. That's why I suspect there'll only be 1 or 2 systems. Why not save some nice stuff for other systems? Because there wont be any.
Maybe I haven't played NMS long enough, but each time I have and started over, the creatures and surroundings always look identical to the previous time. Does it actually change eventually? Is it maybe that the first few 'iterations' always start out the same way? Sure maybe it's prog-gen but it seems like it's always the same sequence, if that makes sense.
Intended 2 minute wormhole sequence, but in reality, you'll start the sequence, CTD, reboot computer, load game, start back at starting system, try the wormhole, CTD, reboot, then restarting, then selecting the next system from the dropdown menu in the startup screen.
And I meant all other systems in our galaxy may only be as varied as our solar system not compared to ED or SC. But the point being, even if it's all similar, do you still want to go explore more? I'd say yes.
Look, send me a link when you've made one. There are a couple others out there, like space engine, and it even has a little space ship you can fly around. It is nothing like Elite for that kind of gameplay, but it is nice looking.
CIg have had lots of youtubes showing how easy and quick it is, with their creation tools, to make stuff. Where is the game then? Instead, they should have bullsh*tted and showed how many years it'd take to make a shrubbery, you know? And how expensive it is. Then, maybe then, I'd support all those in here who are promoting SC, getting people to give them more and more money, knowing that results in them never wanting to release it...easy money and you're helping them.
I'd agree there, that to meet their goals, they are doing the minimum. Sort of like keeping it as simple as they can but get it working. But after things are working, they do add to it without even stating it or making a fuss. I prefer that to promising everything and then being too scared to release anything until it's all complete...which is now impossible, since CIG says it's a live always updating thing. Goat Simulator has more guts than SC. So does Walking Simulator.
And lore of SC? We'll see that as Drew makes it, I guess.
You're glad, that the game with half a billion in funding is giving you less? It's not about scale, it's about making it work. You could say one of ED's drawbacks is time to travel, size of space, but other than loading systems, which takes ~ 42 seconds, they can reduce time in many other areas, which makes the empty bits not a big deal.
20 systems? Packed with stuff? No no no....they are filling the one system with everything they can, because having another system is not going to work the way they have it. When I was able to last long enough, I went from one planet to another, in SC, and it took 15 minutes. That's 15 minutes to load all the packed in goodness of one planet. How long to load another system? Thats why I keep saying it'll be faster to log out, rejoin from the start menu. And that's assuming they have a second system.
Lets assume SC gets to a point where they have 5 systems. You dont think system 3 will start having all the same stuff in it as system 1? The problem with throwing everything plus the kitchen sink into the one system, everything else to come will be copy/paste. That's why I suspect there'll only be 1 or 2 systems. Why not save some nice stuff for other systems? Because there wont be any.
Maybe I haven't played NMS long enough, but each time I have and started over, the creatures and surroundings always look identical to the previous time. Does it actually change eventually? Is it maybe that the first few 'iterations' always start out the same way? Sure maybe it's prog-gen but it seems like it's always the same sequence, if that makes sense.
Intended 2 minute wormhole sequence, but in reality, you'll start the sequence, CTD, reboot computer, load game, start back at starting system, try the wormhole, CTD, reboot, then restarting, then selecting the next system from the dropdown menu in the startup screen.
And I meant all other systems in our galaxy may only be as varied as our solar system not compared to ED or SC. But the point being, even if it's all similar, do you still want to go explore more? I'd say yes.
Look, send me a link when you've made one. There are a couple others out there, like space engine, and it even has a little space ship you can fly around. It is nothing like Elite for that kind of gameplay, but it is nice looking.
CIg have had lots of youtubes showing how easy and quick it is, with their creation tools, to make stuff. Where is the game then? Instead, they should have bullsh*tted and showed how many years it'd take to make a shrubbery, you know? And how expensive it is. Then, maybe then, I'd support all those in here who are promoting SC, getting people to give them more and more money, knowing that results in them never wanting to release it...easy money and you're helping them.
I'd agree there, that to meet their goals, they are doing the minimum. Sort of like keeping it as simple as they can but get it working. But after things are working, they do add to it without even stating it or making a fuss. I prefer that to promising everything and then being too scared to release anything until it's all complete...which is now impossible, since CIG says it's a live always updating thing. Goat Simulator has more guts than SC. So does Walking Simulator.
And lore of SC? We'll see that as Drew makes it, I guess.
Viajero
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Hold on. This can´t be.Chat is full of FUD
Everyone knows the technology is actually fully meshed. Like a broken phone. Or something.
If the chimps found enough time between
Nah. It's not in VR. All non-VR games are
Fight me
(Hey, everyone else gets to do off topic stuff about ED. I'm going for VR
)
Anything to all the EAC threads on Spectrum? I thought it had been in for a while without issue - just someone brigading things or real issues?
Never tried it, i'm afraid to, if i do i might be inclined to open my wallet and the moths who made it their home wouldn't like that.Nah. It's not in VR. All non-VR games are
Fight me
(Hey, everyone else gets to do off topic stuff about ED. I'm going for VR
It's mashed together - not "meshed". Meshed would require some kind of plan. I prefer mashed potatoes btw. the real stuff - not the insta pulverized crap. If you grate taters and add egg and spice, make little flat cakes and deep fry them in oiled pan. Add some applesauce or salmon. The little grate taters mesh together well and you get a beautiful crispy tater cake - Rievekooche.
Poor form from Arf there but it's not like it was Frontier's first marketing blunder and it will certainly not be the last.
Remember back in 2012 Braben preached the "“What I want to see down on the planet is interesting things, cityscapes, even animals, live trees, being a big game hunter. All of the things that we’ve been very ,very excited about for a long time, we want to be able to realize." to allure backers.
Almost 10 years now, and were still having trouble with lightning of the barren planets, doesn't bring hope for cityscapes, forests and animals in the near or far future.
I don't remember. Because I never cared for the "donate money to get a game made" hype with ED. But I do know that Robbers keeps on blathering about stuff that will never see the light of day because that is pretty much the only thing he is capable of.
Viajero
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I hear you, but hey, it could be worst: I mean Chris Roberts could actually allure you with the best damned space sim ever, a meta verse with the best fidelity ever, only possibly surpassed by the likes of Rockstar, with server meshing, with huge capital ship battles of thousands of players, a star studded single player campaign including Mark Hamil... And actually make you pay for it (more than 400 million so far) only to not deliver a single game almost 10 years now (and counting).
As for Braben, well, he is doing reasonably well so far on the delivery front imo with a base game, 2 paid DLC and multiple free ones. And I appreciate that, with a couple exceptions, he does not ask you for your hard earned money until each DLC is ready to be released (and even offers some at no extra cost) :
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Ha ha ha ha ha ... (breathe) ... ha ha ha.