2.2 Building the Neutron Highway Grid

[Col Frost]

Just did my first supercharge of my FSD from the plumes of a Neutron star in beta 4.
I've visited a few hundred Neutron's before so new to be cautious when getting close.
Was able to get in and supercharge the FSD to give me a 206 ly jump range (+300%).
Got 1 % damage to my FSD which was easily repaired.
I also tried activating a premium grade FSD (synthesis) boost after the supercharge but this had no additional effect.

 

[Jedzini]

Which map did the OP use to show the highways?

 

[Dregory The Crow]

Elite: Dangerous Star Map, I think.

 

[jthorpe4]

This is an export of Captain's log that I've been pass. Forgot to say this are collected on behalf of CCN Exploration Wing.

Agnairt LN-T e3-3751

Agnairt TA-U d4-1828

Agnairt TA-U d4-7768

Agnairt TA-U d4-9223

Agnairt UP-W d2-2023

Agnairt YF-O e6-3128

Blaa Phoe HS-A d14-373

Boewnst ZD-B d211

Boewnst ZD-B d293

Boewnst ZD-B d306

Boewnst ZD-B d465

Boewnst ZD-B d99

Dryio Flyuae DV-Y e5698

Dryooe Prou BK-A d1780

Dryooe Prou BK-A d410

Dryooe Prou EG-Y g11

Dryooe Prou EQ-Y d1543

Dryooe Prou EQ-Y d1917

Dryooe Prou EQ-Y d1935

Dryooe Prou EQ-Y d2094

Dryooe Prou FQ-Y d13

Dryooe Prou FQ-Y d162

Dryooe Prou FQ-Y d393

Dryooe Prou JS-A d1-3024

Dryooe Prou KR-W d1-232

Dryooe Prou KR-W d1-498

Dryooe Prou KR-W d1-499

Eol Prou BA-A g52

Eol Prou KM-U d3-1543

Eol Prou KR-W e1-1263

Eol Prou KR-W e1-1360

Eol Prou KR-W e1-2508

Eol Prou KR-W e1-267

Eol Prou KR-W e1-599

Eol Prou LS-R d5-3429

Eol Prou MX-S d4-1319

Eol Prou ND-Q d6-3736

Eol Prou NI-R d5-585

Eol Prou NM-V d2-1091

Eol Prou OI-R d5-1353

Eol Prou OS-S d4-1441

Eol Prou OT-O d7-272

Eol Prou OT-O d7-4042

Eol Prou OX-T d3-1223

Eol Prou OX-T d3-362

Eol Prou PD-R d5-1176

Eol Prou PN-S d4-1310

Eol Prou PO-O d7-6699

Eol Prou PT-P d6-1437

Eol Prou PT-P d6-157

Eol Prou PT-P d6-2073

Eol Prou PT-P d6-2343

Eol Prou PX-T d3-1700

Eol Prou PX-T d3-888

Eol Prou QN-T d3-607

Eol Prou RN-T d3-233

Eol Prou RN-T d3-5

Eol Prou VJ-R e4-849

Eol Prou WE-Q d5-436

Eol Prou WF-L d9-1239

Eol Prou WF-L d9-5299

Eol Prou WK-F d11-584

Eol Prou XK-O e6-1001

Eol Prou YO-R d4-142

Eol Prou YO-R d4-898

Flyiedge LT-F d12-359

Flyiedge VZ-M d8-148

Omega Sector BA-A e42

Ooscs Freau AF-R e4-641

Ooscs Freau AK-I d9-1334

Ooscs Freau PN-B d13-3367

Ooscs Freau RY-Z d13-1785

Ooscs Freau RY-Z d13-2183

Ooscs Freau RY-Z d13-2288

Ooscs Freau RY-Z d13-2416

Phrae Flyou CB-M d8-1048

Phrae Flyou CB-M d8-1508

Phrae Flyou CB-M d8-1523

Phrae Flyou CB-M d8-1708

Phrae Flyou CB-M d8-904

Pru Aescs ER-N d6-301

Screake HA-A e2091

Screake JK-A d1683

Screake KK-A d3140

Screake KK-A d7535

Screake LF-A d10618

Screake LF-A d11036

Screake LF-A d11406

Screake LF-A d1881

Screake LF-A d4327

Screake LF-A d5048

Screake LF-A d5791

Screake LF-A d8451

Screake QL-Y d8176

Skaudai CH-B d14-107

 

[AlistairHope]

Hello,


I've developped a little external tool for ED, working (for the moment, could be extended) with voice attack.
It aims to allow to quickly plot waypoints stored in an ascii file.
I think this could allow to facilitate "FSD Boost highways" implementation, reducing significantly plotting time IF you have a predefined route.


For the moment, it only run on windows 64 bits, with VoiceAttack.
It is composed of 1) a standalone c++/Qt program, 2) a voiceattack profile
The voiceattack profil contains two usable commands:
- Plot next system contained in the ascii file
- Open a dialog, to choose next destination


Is somebody interested to help in testing it ?
Somebody having beta 2.2 access and being in a neutron field would be great, to test how it improve FSD Boost use time.
A good knowledge of voice attack can help but is not completely necessary.

 

[Andrew Linton]

I am currently out at Polo Harbour - the closest outpost to Colonia - and see many neutron stars between the two locations.

My question is whether the route from here to Jaques has already been adequately surveyed with respect to neutron star jumping, or should I explore for neutron stars on my return journey to Colonia? Of particular value, I think, might be neutron star systems that include a scoopable star within a reasonable cruising distance.

If the answer is 'yes', where should I record the findings?

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

I am currently out at Polo Harbour - the closest outpost to Colonia - and see many neutron stars between the two locations.

My question is whether the route from here to Jaques has already been adequately surveyed with respect to neutron star jumping, or should I explore for neutron stars on my return journey to Colonia? Of particular value, I think, might be neutron star systems that include a scoopable star within a reasonable cruising distance.

If the answer is 'yes', where should I record the findings?

If you can scout for neutrons between Polo Harbour and Colonia, that would be a great help. Post your findings on this thread

I'm having to sift through the data submitted on this thread to find neutrons that are pretty much in a straight line between each outpost.

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Hello,


I've developped a little external tool for ED, working (for the moment, could be extended) with voice attack.
It aims to allow to quickly plot waypoints stored in an ascii file.
I think this could allow to facilitate "FSD Boost highways" implementation, reducing significantly plotting time IF you have a predefined route.


For the moment, it only run on windows 64 bits, with VoiceAttack.
It is composed of 1) a standalone c++/Qt program, 2) a voiceattack profile
The voiceattack profil contains two usable commands:
- Plot next system contained in the ascii file
- Open a dialog, to choose next destination


Is somebody interested to help in testing it ?
Somebody having beta 2.2 access and being in a neutron field would be great, to test how it improve FSD Boost use time.
A good knowledge of voice attack can help but is not completely necessary.

This sounds awesome - although I won't be able to help test it as I'm not using voice attack at the moment.

 

[racer1]

I just docked a Gargarin this morning on my way to Jaques. I'll have a look for some NS on route to the next outpost and post in here.

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

Just curious (didn't follow the whole Neutron/WD jumping development): How is the current state on the risk ratio? My first impression was that there was an ultimative bad luck factor involved that could lead to an unavoidable death sequence, no matter how skilled the player actually is. Has this been altered in the meantime?

I wouldn't mind very difficult and risky mechanics but not a lottery with a certain or even high probability to get blown - say - one in 50 jumps in which case I'd assume the whole idea of WD-highways wouldn't become that popular.

I've died once in over 50 neutron jumps, and that only happened when I didn't zero the throttle on approach, so I ended up in the jet and within the drop out zone.

The threat of death is negligible if you're careful. But if you do screw up, you're pretty much dead.

 

[Andrew Linton]

I found these neutron stars between Polo Harbour and Colonia. All except the first entry were new discoveries.

System	Distance to	Distance to
	Polo Harbour	Colonia
Dryio Flyuae UG-C d13-2	4056.87	734.13
Dryio Flyuae QA-E d12-1432	4020.72	773.45
Dryio Flyuae QA-E d12-3105	3960.54	830.27
Dryio Flyuae VJ-Q d5-1457	3211.24	1590.79
Dryio Flyuae FQ-Y e1857	2784.72	2028.94
Dryio Flyuae GF-Z d3215	2649.60	2171.95
Dryio Flyuae CZ-A d1262	2599.92	2221.08
Dryio Flyuae BE-B d2410	2540.68	2277.16
Eord Flyuae SL-C d13-852	2248.75	2541.68
Eord Flyuae SL-C d13-3192	2255.56	2574.87
Eord Flyuae MZ-F d11-1357	2067.92	2770.66
Eord Flyuae MZ-F d11-1760	2049.15	2784.77
Eord Flyuae MZ-F d11-3509	2028.91	2802.99
Eord Flyuae FN-J d9-3052	1843.64	3000.13
Eord Flyuae YA-N d7-1437	1738.28	3118.53
Eord Flyuae TZ-O d6-320	1612.24	3232.15
Eord Flyuae TZ-O d6-2328	1577.09	3265.12
Eord Flyuae UZ-O d6-1599	1569.26	3275.69
Eord Flyuae UZ-O d6-3393	1537.24	3310.22
Eord Flyuae AA-A g346	1506.21	3344.83
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-2923	1475.48	3380.38
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-1653	1466.18	3390.57
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-2200	1446.15	3413.49
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-543	1431.14	3429.04
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-1870	1409.51	3448.85
Eord Flyuae RT-Q d5-74	1403.93	3453.35
Eord Flyuae GB-X e1-1051	1369.75	3495.52
Eord Flyuae QI-S d4-1980	1362.72	3507.89
Eord Flyuae GB-X e1-4119	1253.51	3607.82
Eord Flyuae MH-U d3-1699	1164.58	3695.11
Eord Flyuae GG-W d2-2033	1123.72	3735.38
Eord Flyuae GG-W d2-650	1108.08	3748.10
Eord Flyuae GG-W d2-1269	1107.15	3717.96
Eord Flyuae GG-W d2-141	1099.20	3741.16
Eord Flyuae EL-W d2-3152	1098.33	3732.22
Eord Flyuae BA-Z e122	1094.71	3726.96
Eord Flyuae EL-W d2-5050	1076.43	3756.38
Eord Flyuae EL-W d2-5063
Eord Flyuae ZE-Z e8438
Eord Flyuae TN-A d1-5835
Eord Flyuae TN-A d1-6947
Boewnst TG-J d10-3757
Boewnst TG-J d10-626

[/td]

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

Thanks Andrew

I'll work on adding a route to Colonia once 2.2 is live and we know for sure FD are sticking to the current 300% rate.

 

[AlistairHope]

This sounds awesome - although I won't be able to help test it as I'm not using voice attack at the moment.

My program is also plugable with AutoHotKey. I will do it when I will have some time.

 

[NikolaiDante]

I am currently working my way back from Jacques to the Bubble.
I have worked out that a modded 'Conda with about 300T of cargo can do a max leap of around 155LY using Neutron Star boosts.

I am currently creating a path of NS that are a MAX of 151LY apart and have a scoopable system 1 small jump away. If there is a scoopable star less than 5,000LS away then I tag the system as scoopable as well.

I have currently got a path of 73 jumps from Jacques (total distance 10,500 LY) and so I'm nearly half way.


I'll post the full map here when complete.

Next task will be to map an exploration path from Sol > SAG A with jump distances of 200LY. Hopefully we can get one to Beagle early next year

 

[NikolaiDante]

Now 12,000 LY on and proceeding with NS boosted jumps.
Interestingly, when boosted my empty Conda can do 235LY but as I am only doing 150LY leaps, fuel used is greatly reduced. Will compare fuel use when fully laden after I get back.

Boosted jumps completed : 5

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

The Galactic Mapping Team are happy to announce the first recorded (and successfully flown) Neutron Highway.

Polo Harbour to Colonia - a distance of almost 4,800 Light Years, has been charted using some of the data submitted to this thread since August, and the route was optimized and flown in an unmodified Asp Explorer on October 26th 3302.

Full details are as follows :

Polo Harbour to Colonia

Direct Distance : 4,786.59 Light Years.

Ship Used : Unmodded Asp Explorer.

Ship Base Range : 33.33 Light Years.

Normal number of jumps taken by a ship of this range would be around 150 Jumps.
Neutron Highway Jumps : 42 Neutron Jumps, plus 12 regular jumps. Total of 54 Jumps.

Once its integrity had dropped to 90%, the ships's FSD was repaired (4 times in total).


OP updated with the optimized route!
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[AlistairHope]

EDRouteManager

Hello,

In the meantime I've finished a first beta version of my plotting tool.
It is not using VoiceAttack anymore, but AutoHotKey instead.
You can find it there with all explainations :

http://edroutemanager.wpweb.fr

To test the new route with it, copy one of the following files contents in the route.txt file:

View attachment colonia_to_polo.txt
View attachment polo_to_colonia.txt

Any feedback (good or bad) will be greatly appreciated !

Alistair Hope.

 

[Zenith]

I tried this myself last night in my Sidewinder. I left Polo Harbour and headed towards Colonia and came across 4 neutron stars out of 50 jumps.
I thought "Let's try this" so I supercharged my FSD with a neutron star plume and got the increase from 18ly to 74ly, then plotted to another neutron star 60ly further along.
When I got to that one, I supercharged again and this time plotted a 72.5ly jump.

130.72ly in 2 jumps took 5 minutes. That's just over 7 jumps distance in the time it would normally take 3.75 jumps, so it is a timesaver if you can chain them together.

I've got another 3 neutron stars bookmarked between my current location and Colonia, so I'll be heading out soon to try and close the 3.8 kylies I've got left.

 

[Erimus Kamzel]

I tried this myself last night in my Sidewinder. I left Polo Harbour and headed towards Colonia and came across 4 neutron stars out of 50 jumps.
I thought "Let's try this" so I supercharged my FSD with a neutron star plume and got the increase from 18ly to 74ly, then plotted to another neutron star 60ly further along.
When I got to that one, I supercharged again and this time plotted a 72.5ly jump.

130.72ly in 2 jumps took 5 minutes. That's just over 7 jumps distance in the time it would normally take 3.75 jumps, so it is a timesaver if you can chain them together.

I've got another 3 neutron stars bookmarked between my current location and Colonia, so I'll be heading out soon to try and close the 3.8 kylies I've got left.

Chaining them together is the key to saving time. Apart from a couple of 'gaps', the Polo Harbour to Colonia route is chained. In a 33 LY ship you can literally hop from neutron to neutron for the vast majority of the route. For a 33 LY ship, it saves over 90 jumps over the regular run. Ships with top range modded drives will be able to skip a few of these too, so will take even less jumps overall.

The other Colonia Connection inter-outpost routes won't be as optimized as this one though as the number of available neutrons thins out the closer to the bubble we get.

I think these highway grids will be better suited for neutron routes around the outer core and intermediate galactic arms regions.


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Hello,

In the meantime I've finished a first beta version of my plotting tool.
It is not using VoiceAttack anymore, but AutoHotKey instead.
You can find it there with all explainations :

http://edroutemanager.wpweb.fr

To test the new route with it, copy one of the following files contents in the route.txt file:

View attachment 112602
View attachment 112603

Any feedback (good or bad) will be greatly appreciated !

Alistair Hope.

Nice work Alistair!

 

[Wishblend]

Great work to all of you, a great achievement.

 

[BDelacroix]

If the whole route means you do about 1/3rd the jumps, this will be great. I'm torn about doing the suicide winder thing and helping out with my aspx.