Sure, I'd tend to think that the majority will move to 4.0, and actually I expect most of them to pick up Odyssey one day too. After all if you can run 4.0 then it seems silly to miss out on the on foot content..
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Yep, same as you, I have absolutely no interest in on foot play - it is a SPACE SIM and I want to fly my SPACESHIPS!!!!!!!.
If I do yearn for or want FPS in next 2 years, I will do Mass Effect Legendary (totally outclassing EDO FPS with those stupid looking running hands) - not played yet as I did all 3 on PS.
They already locked themselves out from the moment they bought OD right while others were residing in 3.8 . The thing is, Frontier is in a position right now, damned if they go left or right, it's never good enough, never. But when Odyssey came out, would you have still bought it if your friends would have said, please don't because I'm not going to buy it, my pc can't run it?? No, all those who wanted OD bought OD, so there you left your friends behind already. And if Frontier brings a 4.0 version out which for me is a "try-to-make-you-buy Odyssey" move, you are complaining that you can't access it? Weird.
You know there's more to Odyssey than just on-foot combat? I also expect on-foot gameplay to expand even more in the future.
You're also missing out on tenuous atmosphere planets (you can see them from your ship but you cannot land on them in Horizons 4.0). So no driving about them in your SRV (on your spaceship game) or exobiology, or just enjoying the on-foot visuals.
Plus there's going to be some on-foot CGs coming in the future. Although there will be ship-based one's as well.
People who only bought Horizons but didn’t buy Odyssey have access to Horizons 4.0, and anyone who buys Odyssey will lose that access. It astonishes me that anyone wouldn’t be ticked off about that even just in principle.
Show me a world where people want to spend money to lose access to products they’ve already bought.
The apologia going on in these forums has significantly lowered my overall opinion of the community, and that’s saying something. Even Frontier hasn’t come out and tried to claim that “This is good, actually,” yet, and I doubt they will.
Show me a world where people want to spend money to lose access to products they’ve already bought.
The apologia going on in these forums has significantly lowered my overall opinion of the community, and that’s saying something. Even Frontier hasn’t come out and tried to claim that “This is good, actually,” yet, and I doubt they will.
I bought Odyssey, twice... and i never had access to Horizons 4.0
Now tell me, what did i lose?
I bought Horizons back in 2020ish. I upgraded to Odyssey not long after it was released. I never bought Horizons 4.0, only 3.8 (which was just called Horizons). However my Epic Games Store account (which was free, so I didn't actually pay for it) was 3.8 when I purchased it (again, just called Horizons). Now I'll be able to upgrade it to Horizons 4.0 for free. I'll still have to pay for Odyssey though.
However, I do agree, as an Odyssey owner, I should be able to log-in to Horizons 4.0.
There is also much less to Odyssey as to Horizons 3.8 at the moment as well...
This is akin as to what happened a few years ago with the release of Egosoft's X-Rebirth VR version, the stand alone VR edition of the 'on screen version' where the dev team chose to remove or 'comment out' a lot of content of the 'onscreen' version because they assumed that it would drag FPS down on VR headsets. Nothing could have been farther from the truth.
A few modders made the 'recall' mod and brought back a lot of the content that was cut out (stations that were removed from the map etc...) and the mod got a lot of positive feedback.
Unfortunately, Elite Dangerous cannot be modded, and we cannot bring back the cloud and lighting effects, and the general atmosphere that we grew fond of in those 10 years of ED that led to Horizons, but which failed to materialize in Odyssey.
What I don't like about Odyssey, is that the devs made you grow fond of a lollypop with a certain taste for the last 10 years (let's call it vanilla for reference sake) and then rewrite the engine to include new content and new visuals but in the process change the taste to something completely different (let's call that strawberry for reference sake).
In short it's still a lollypop, it feels like a lollypop, and your tongue still recognises the lollypop shape, but the taste is completely off, it went from Vanilla to Strawberry without warning.
To understand what I mean: put your favorite VR gear on, fire up Horizons 3.8, play for an hour, then do the same with OD or with 4.0 and you will know exactly what I am talking about.
Like I said. 3.8 needs some TLC, but Odyssey needs much more than that. The reviews on steam from ODY don't lie neither and are also a far cry from what they are for Horizons.
ODY to me is a fleshed out Alpha, nothing more.
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No there's not.
It's not good but it is funny.
Judging by your answer,I assume you play 'on screen' ? If so, then you have no point of reference, and your reply is moot.
In VR Horizons 3.8 looks terrific while Odyssey does not - and that is a fact. I frankly don't play these games 'on screen ' anymore.
Here is a little thread that also tells the same story and not only from my point of view:
Make Odyssey look like Horizons... How do you achieve this?
What settings do I need to tweak in the graphical department to have Odyssey look like Horizons: In short : This is what Horizons looks like, which I really enjoy: And this is the same Coriolis, taken at the same time in Odyssey: Been fiddling with VR-Low to VR-Ultra but to no avail, it...
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I do but you still cannot say Odyssey has less features than Horizons. That's just patently untrue.
I am not talking features, I am talking atmosphere... You know the feeling that you 'are there'. That's gameplay.
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Or let me compare it this way:
Odyssey is an F-35 with all the bells and whistles, stealth, vector thrust, and a smart AI.
Horizons 3.8 is an F-16 that is fun to fly.
Odyssey is an F-35 with all the bells and whistles, stealth, vector thrust, and a smart AI.
Horizons 3.8 is an F-16 that is fun to fly.
50 Extra feature upgrades (especially in a procedural game) mean nothing if said game is visually inferior to the previous version, the version it wishes to replace and throws 10 years of 'established visuals' out the window. ODY should at least look on par, have the same atmosphere as HOR, which at the moment it does not do. Furthermore Horizons is a complete VR experience, while ODY is not.
Except of course 3.8 Horizons has no tenuous atmospheres to enjoy. I realise on-foot VR is non-existent but then you don't get on-foot in Horizons anyway. 4.0 does at least have the updated plantetary tech though, even if you still cannot land on the new tenuous atmospheric planets.
Odyssey personally looks much better than Horizons (and I'm not including the tenuous atmospheres in that). The skybox is darker (as it should be). Horizons looks too washed-out and orange. Even Planetary tech is improved (the height map has changed, so there's less extremes). Yes it looks different to Horizons but for tenuous atmospheres to be implemented, Stellar Forge had to be updated as well. On-foot gameplay also couldn't have happened without an improved engine.
I presume you'd just have preferred Odyssey was never released?
No, because disembarking to use on foot is just 1 Odyssey extra. Another Oddy only is the Atmosphere on planets to give you those gorgeous screenshots, Can't click a button to hide them too. And there are (I've read)some other minor graphical differences as well
![[VR] Mad Mike](https://d2aefvhu2f0gi9.cloudfront.net/data/avatars/m/27/27910.jpg?1553527108){kind=avatar}
I must admit it took some patches and even now 3.8 runs better than ody in VR but I think Odyssey is fine in VR where it is supported. (that said I do have a 3090)Judging by your answer,I assume you play 'on screen' ? If so, then you have no point of reference, and your reply is moot.
In VR Horizons 3.8 looks terrific while Odyssey does not - and that is a fact. I frankly don't play these games 'on screen ' anymore.
Here is a little thread that also tells the same story and not only from my point of view:
Make Odyssey look like Horizons... How do you achieve this?
What settings do I need to tweak in the graphical department to have Odyssey look like Horizons: In short : This is what Horizons looks like, which I really enjoy: And this is the same Coriolis, taken at the same time in Odyssey: Been fiddling with VR-Low to VR-Ultra but to no avail, it...forums.frontier.co.uk
I do miss some of the extreme terrain however