Fair enough, but the tone of your other post was almost dripping with "get gud" even if you didn't mean it.
Modes Accidentally logged into Open last night.
Fair enough, but the tone of your other post was almost dripping with "get gud" even if you didn't mean it.
So be it? Learn from failure, disaster, and misfortune. It’s a great thing indeed.
It was relatively shortly after tourist beacons were introduced to the game and he might have been out since before they were in. He kept on about it's so small, how'm I supposed to dock. Not showing on Contacts tab. Can't get docking permission. It was pretty hilarious. I o7'ed and left him to his demise.
Let's have PVP mean something? why don't people like to PVP? Why do people hate Open so much? These and a slew of other questions I've seen again and again from those who like to PVP, yet again you can't look past your above mindset for the answer and you give answers like above making it painfully clear why.
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Mouse, I think you're missing the point.
Life is about failing. No one is just granted with the abilities to do things right 100% of the time.
People that are scared of failure never go anywhere. They never take chances, they never achieve their dreams.
This just doesnt apply to a video game. It applies to life.
If you take something small like this video game. Take the PVP you hate so much. Learn to work around it, build for it and learn to survive. Which doesnt take much by the way.
You would achieve something. But continuously putting your nose in the air everytime PVP is mentioned. At this point in this games life is kinda wrong.
When you have the same tools as everyone else in this game, I'd suggest you start getting better and use them.
You get in what you put out.
Put in the work.
Do the work.
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This actually comes very close to my own opinion on the mindset. Everyone who doesn't "indulge" is simply relegated to a "risk avoidance" category, when in fact there are many different reasons why some don't engage in PvP in this game (and others, for that matter).
Personally, I don't engage in PvP in Elite because it's quite boring to me. Having participated in PvP for many years in other games, I came to the conclusion that it just wasn't my cup of tea. Others like it, and great. But when people start labeling me as some sort of risk-avoidant "carebear" because I choose to do my own thing, that's when I start having an "issue" with what they say- because it's a generalization that doesn't at all take into consideration many other factors.
What's rather amusing is that some seem to view me as "anti-PvP" when in fact, I'm not anti-PvP at all... I'm simply PRO-choice, rather than anti-choice. People should simply have the freedom to do their own thing, and these initiatives to pool all players into the PvP barrel don't provide "choice" at all. (except from the perspective of those who like to engage hardpoints on other players, perhaps)
I think everyone needs to take a step back and really THINK about what they're saying to others and how it's coming across before they make "judgement" calls on others.
Well said.[yesnod]
I’m not even talking about PvP here.
Thought the subject had moved on to what an explorer can learn from this experience and help protect themselves in the future. In my view, identifying what I can do to protect myself is much easier and effective than opining on how FDEV should change their game.
Braandlin’s posts will not save him from the scenario he experienced. Advice given by myself and others will.
Thought the subject had moved on to what an explorer can learn from this experience and help protect themselves in the future. In my view, identifying what I can do to protect myself is much easier and effective than opining on how FDEV should change their game.
Braandlin’s posts will not save him from the scenario he experienced. Advice given by myself and others will.
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"Save" him against what, exactly? If it's not about PvP, then what is it about?
(FYI, my prior comment wasn't meant for you, specifically- Phisto, but rather a wake-up call for everyone.)
All good! I liked the comment and hope to dig into it later.
As far as saving him I think I mean promoting proper choice of mode, and if one goes for Open, preparing and playing properly for it.
It should be said I enjoy how ruthless Open Play can be. Bet big, lose big, all that stuff. I get that’s not everyone’s preference, but I’m trying to focus on the game we have not the game we want.
As far as saving him I think I mean promoting proper choice of mode, and if one goes for Open, preparing and playing properly for it.
It should be said I enjoy how ruthless Open Play can be. Bet big, lose big, all that stuff. I get that’s not everyone’s preference, but I’m trying to focus on the game we have not the game we want.
Ah, gotcha. Well, in regard to the "gamble" bit, it simply wouldn't matter what mode one played in- because bet big, lose big is a general theme overall. Noobaconda Syndrome happens in any mode, after all.
With regard to mode preference- the Open "de facto" PvP is what I was referring to, however. If it's a discussion about Open and "risk assessment", it's most likely going to be PvP related, IMO.
I agree. Once you’ve gotten the hang of things other players are the only real threats out there. Braandlin spent three months out in the black? Clearly wasn’t gonna get whacked by star or black hole.
Also, as a side note, how absolutely weird is it we’re talking about the CENTER OF THE GALAXY as a place to watch your back?
Also, as a side note, how absolutely weird is it we’re talking about the CENTER OF THE GALAXY as a place to watch your back?
I agree. Once you’ve gotten the hang of things other players are the only real threats out there. Braandlin spent three months out in the black? Clearly wasn’t gonna get whacked by star or black hole.
Also, as a side note, how absolutely weird is it we’re talking about the CENTER OF THE GALAXY as a place to watch your back?
Indeed it does seem a bit ironic, LOL
Thanks Sylveria, now I have to clean the coffee off my keyboard and screen...
Gonna remember that phrase, and absolutely love it.
Thanks Sylveria, now I have to clean the coffee off my keyboard and screen...
Gonna remember that phrase, and absolutely love it.
Oops sorry bout that!
FYI I didn't "coin" that phrase, but it definitely seems appropriate.
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Also, as a side note, how absolutely weird is it we’re talking about the CENTER OF THE GALAXY as a place to watch your back?
Well, let's be honest here;
When I pull the plug in my bath, all the scum whizzes to the plug hole.
What is Sag A* - it's a giant plug hole for the galaxy.
Need I say more
J.
Well, let's be honest here;
When I pull the plug in my bath, all the scum whizzes to the plug hole.
What is Sag A* - it's a giant plug hole for the galaxy.
Need I say more
J.
Didn't Spock's brother find a "god" or something there that was evil?
Well, let's be honest here;
When I pull the plug in my bath, all the scum whizzes to the plug hole.
What is Sag A* - it's a giant plug hole for the galaxy.
Need I say more
J.
At least we all have that in common.
...orbiting Sag A, I mean!
There's really nothing here I can, or want, to take issue with here. In fact, speaking from my perspective it's mildly irritating to be consider 'just a PvPer.' Sure, I suppose there are good reasons for that and I don't mind it per se, but I enjoy so much of this game besides just shooting at or fighting other players.
Are we finding more understanding between each other on these boards lately? I hope so. I really do.
The term "PvPer"- is not meant as a slight, it's meant to demonstrate a difference by way of participation. Not everyone plays to compete with other players.
PvErs are definitive in that they don't seek to engage other players. At all. Not by "chance", not by "choice". Those who do, aren't viewed as PvErs simply based on that definition. In this game- I consider myself a PvEer in the sense that I don't seek to engage other players in any hostility whatsoever (whether for self-defense or not). The moment I do, then I'm no longer a "PvEer" but engaging in PvP. There's a bit of connotation involved, yes- but there really IS a definitive difference in actions. Players engaging in hostile actions toward each other do change the inherent nature of the setting, but it's not necessarily in the form of non-predictive action- as games themselves seek to challenge players on many varying levels.
I do think, however- that subjectively there is a definitive difference in whether there's a "superiority complex" attached to one's own beliefs. When some come across as "superior" to other players because of the activities they engage in- I tend to view it hilariously as the difference between an Astrophysicist and a specialized soldier. Both are good at what they do- but they're completely different applications. Either of them viewing each other as "inferior" is a complete fallacy. (or "phallusy", if you prefer) Both should be respected for their own achievement and ability... but neither should seek to subordinate/subjugate the other.
PvErs don't tend to want to subordinate/subjugate anyone. I've yet to see one that does. There's just no need for (or room for) "tribalism" in PvE.
That... is what I view as quite the definitive difference between the two styles of play. Sure you may consider yourself "buddies" with another PvPer... but at the end of the day, you're still competing with each other. One has to be "better" than the other.
Yes, we do tend to understand each other on a great many things. Even the ones we may not agree on.