anything to avoid using the FSS tbh. I never had any problem finding stuff like that before. Just randomly zooming out into the black would do it, it always appeared to me to be more about what system you were in to find what you wanted.
Allow use of pre 3.3 Advanced Discovery Scanner
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anything to avoid using the FSS tbh. I never had any problem finding stuff like that before. Just randomly zooming out into the black would do it, it always appeared to me to be more about what system you were in to find what you wanted.
You can drop in randomly use the nav beacon or the FSS to get signals, I use all three.
Yes. But you find out where they are and what type when you use the FSS. It's far more useful to have that, then just flying around relying on pure luck.
Scan the nav beacon. All currently spawned USS are identified and targetable from the navigation tab in the left HUD. As new ones spawn you can identify them either by targeting them and having them resolve (as before) or use the FSS.
I'd just like to remind contributors that the functionality of the old ADS is present in explored systems, adding the ADS back into the game only has any advantage in virgin and partially tagged systems.
While there may be USSs to be found via the FSS there are (almost certainly) no nav beacons to get the data from in any system where fitting the ADS would provide useful functionality.
While there may be USSs to be found via the FSS there are (almost certainly) no nav beacons to get the data from in any system where fitting the ADS would provide useful functionality.
Yes you can do that. But if you are some distance from the Nav Beacon it would either mean jumping out and then jumping back in, then flying to the Nav Beacon or use the FSS. To be honest, I would prefer to use the FSS then the Nav Beacon.
We still have an optional scanner? Say what? I have the one, The FSS. I know of no other. Unless you mean sensors and you have to have them or you can't target anything. No targeting, no asking for clearance to land.
Exactly. Making the FSS a new, upgradable piece of kit would have broken the game for the out-of-bubble explorers.
Then it should matter that I think it's a very bad idea that some ships are locked behind a rank wall. Federal Fed Dropship, Imperial Clipper.
Oh, there's a road map. But it has not been, nor will it ever be, published in full. That would just set them up for more argument and drama.
Its almost like FDEV knew what they were doing and thought it through with the best interests of the players at heart.
Almost, yeah. Just one little oversight, easily corrected
The old modules didn't need to be removed.
Almost, yeah. Just one little oversight, easily corrected
The old modules didn't need to be removed.
Not removed replaced with something better, maybe you should try to come to terms with that.
Part of the act of replacing a thing is removing the other. However the replacement does not match the functionality of what it 'replaced'.
That functionality is missed & there is no good reason why it cannot be simply put back in. However some prefer to not have that functionality so the simple solution is to reinstate the old ADS as an optional module, available to buy in outfitting. Really they should not have been removed in the first place, there was no need.
That is highly subjective and not everyone agrees with your perspective - some may argue it is but just because they believe it is does not make it factually so.
It is however moot whether the FSS is better or not, the point is options were removed without legitimate due cause.
I don't quite agree that the old ADS should be reintroduced as-was, but a functional equivalent could legitimately be added. End result would probably be the same and almost certainly require a similar level of effort but a move away from the "Discovery Scanner" terminology for the proposed optional module in question would perhaps help to diffuse some of the more vehement opposition.
For the sake of argument we could call it a System Mapping Computer or something similar.
Which is the exact idea behind this thread / request.
FDEV knew some people wouldn't be happy we know this as they said so (its the default setting of the forum after all) and then decided to do it anyway. What with DW2 and all it seems to be very popular with most players.
FDEV decided to upgrade the exploration mechanics in their game is a legitimate reason.
Refusing to use something doesn't equal missing functionality.
Look. I don't think anyone claims that FDev did something to make people angry just for the sake of it. They did what in their belief was a good change.
That's okay. That's how You do things after all.
That's not the subject though. We don't argue here whether FSS is better or not. If it's an improvement or not.
We don't want FSS to change in any way.
What we would like to see is to have ADS reintroduced. Along the FSS. Both of these present.
So as to make everyone happy. This has no downsides to it that catch my immediate attention. And not only mine as proven by many in this thread.
Maybe not "missing" but not as easily available with FSS. It takes significantly more time to have system map revealed than it was with ADS.
It's the only, core thing we would like to be taken into conideration by FD. Reintroducing ADS as a means of revealing system map showing bodies' configuration. No more, no less. Like it used to work before.
Would adding the ADS as an optional upset many? I don't think so.
The detailed surface scanner is optional ...
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