Anyone else thinking of asking for a refund?

Powderpanic

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OP is this what you expect FDEV to do on reading your thread with the weak veiled threat of legal action?

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When the reality is absolutely

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Please do record the call or at least send us the draft letter from your law firm of choice.

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Powderpanic
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I don't think the fuss is over the feature, I imagine some are ticked off coz they feel lied to. But forget that lets all laugh at the carebears tears eh?
People can choose to feel anyway they want. They weren't lied to. How dramatic. Power play is in current implementation a dead feature. Making it a hot war has a chance to revive it.
I think people just want to feel justified in whining (AKA the internet as a whole these days). If PP was successful in current implementation it would stay the same. But it's not, so change is in the winds.
 
How about if you bought a car with a V-6 engine and drove it for 2 years and then one day the mfgr knocked on your door and said that you had to give up the V-6 engine you bought and they would replace it with a 4cyl with half the horsepower?

I suppose you'd be fine with that?

Let's use a better analogy. You bought a bus pass. You rode the bus for 2 years and everything was dandy. Your bus pass was well worth it. One day, the bus company says they want to desegregate the bus. But you like it up front by yourself and don't like the idea of having to mix with undesirable passengers. The bus company thinks that this will benefit the majority of riders though.
Do you ask for a refund on your two year old bus pass?
 
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People can choose to feel anyway they want. They weren't lied to. How dramatic. Power play is in current implementation a dead feature. Making it a hot war has a chance to revive it.
I think people just want to feel justified in whining (AKA the internet as a whole these days). If PP was successful in current implementation it would stay the same. But it's not, so change is in the winds.

Exept they were lied to because they were promised no mode seperation and that is happening; so thats a lie.
 
I honestly prefer GalCiv 2 over Stellaris because it isn't so overly complex! GC2 is my favorite space 4X of all time. I love building custom ships in it, and the AI is in my opinion the best AI in any 4X game ever made.

I've not bought GC3 yet though. I will someday.


As for refunding Elite, nah. I've more than gotten my money's worth from it. Now, whether or not I put any more money into ED entirely depends on what the Q4 exploration improvements end up being. I have a list of store items I'm waiting to buy until I know what those Q4 changes are.

That's actually me too most times I go for 4X gaming. :D GC2 hits a great sweet spot in complexity and depth but without needing vast investment unless you want to, and I agree that the AI ranks up with the best of them and provides great games that don't feel like you're against a gang of derps (unless you throw in random smarts for max chaos). Stellaris is super deep but it can be dauntingly deep to start into sometimes. Nobody should pass it up though if they're into empiring around and don't want to Crusade any Kings.

But yeah, a huge fan of the shipyards in GC2 myself, cosmetically, engineering-wise and on a mass-production iterative design level. At one point during a seriously heavy GC2 era playing largest-galaxy-slowest-growth games I designed a 7-digit ship registry coding system to keep track of my prototyping, specialist designs and iterative regular fleet lines, along with operational data at a glance; the ship tinkering is great and can provide a fun focus inside the game proper. Had one game where a minor faction awakened one of those special-event pangalactic fleets of ancient evil that wiped out half the known galaxy, and I had to retool my entire empire from my original designs to survive and then overcome; good times (except for the billions of lives lost but hey, 4X in spaaace).
 
Logic needs to be taught in grade school


Yes you have demonstrated that, as there is no way Power Play is to Elite Dangerous what an Engine is to a car.


If Power Play ceased to exist ED would still function

If a car lacked an engine it would not function.


Especially as ED 1.0 did not have Power Play in it.


You are saying Power Play is more integral to ED than 32 bit support.


I would suggest you review your formal logic text book to see if that is a valid and sound series of assertions
 
Exept they were lied to because they were promised no mode seperation and that is happening; so thats a lie.
How many years was power play like it is now?
It's a multiplayer feature. Multi Crew also doesn't work in solo. Are we going to entertain foolish notions about refunds on that account?
Trying to force PP into solo also has killed the thing.
 
Ohwow.. Do you still believe the modes are equal, even before this change?



Powderpanic
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I get you love it and wanna take the pee, but FD had stated that and after doing a 180' I'm saying I can see why people are annoyed.

But I get your just a poor troll caricature so carry on with your childish attempts at toxicity.
 
How many years was power play like it is now?
It's a multiplayer feature. Multi Crew also doesn't work in solo. Are we going to entertain foolish notions about refunds on that account?
Trying to force PP into solo also has killed the thing.

No, but what I am stating is I can empathise with those people who are annoyed because FD have broke a long standing promise.
 
No, but what I am stating is I can empathise with those people who are annoyed because FD have broke a long standing promise.

Well if PP open broke that promise then Wings already did, and if Wings did not, then PP open has not, ignoring it is a proposal and not in place.

We have been asked for feed back, it was not fait accompli

And what about the Promise we made to accept & abide by the EULA which refers to "certain on-line or multiplayer features and functionality associated with the Game (“Online Features”)"

Goes both ways doesn't it?

We have already agreed to the fact certain things will be on-line or multiplayer features in ED
 

Powderpanic

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I get you love it and wanna take the pee, but FD had stated that and after doing a 180' I'm saying I can see why people are annoyed.

But I get your just a poor troll caricature so carry on with your childish attempts at toxicity.

The number of people who have been called trolls over the last few days by butthurt people unable to grasp at the reality of the game, is pretty impressive.

Solo players who's fear of change is so incredible. That it really does show how terribly designed this game has been for so long, for them to not see how broken a feature it is.

But sure let's throw troll around, it can be this week's griefer.

Change is coming, GIT GUD or GIT OUT.

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
 
The number of people who have been called trolls over the last few days by butthurt people unable to grasp at the reality of the game is pretty impressive.

Solo players who's fear of change is so incredible. That it really does show how terribly designed this game has been for so long, for them to not see how broken a feature it is.

But sure let's throw troll around, it can be this week's griefer.

Change is coming, GIT GUD or GIT OUT.

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing

I'm calling You a troll because that is the online persona you have crafted for yourself. You admit to intentionally mining salt and constantly post toxic meme's. In short you are intentionally trying to have a negative effect on the community and you get your jollies by winding up others.
 
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Powderpanic

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I'm calling You a troll because that is the online persona you have crafted for yourself. You admit to intentionally mining salt and constantly post toxic meme's. In short you are intentionally trying to have a negative effect on the community and you get your jollies by winding up others.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

It's not hard to harvest mountains of salt on this forum.

You just point out reality, without worrying if it will offend people.

I am the hero that frontier deserves

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