Ships Diamondback Explorer Owners Club

baqar79

baqar79
The combination of integrating the advanced discovery scanner + 2 small slots have really made this a very good explorer. While the Krait Mk II is now my favourite ship to go exploring in, it has always been the DBX that has really taken me to the extremes of the galaxy.

I'm quite pleased that I managed to free up a size-3 slot on the DBX allowing me to equip the smallest business class passenger module (3D with 3 passengers), or 8T of cargo. So this is my new DBX (bought again from Hamilton Gateway for that 20% discount):

Coriolis link: "Negentropy"
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70.25Ly maximum isn't likely to impress any explorer with the bare essentials on-board, but I wanted to give it a bit more toughness (as I do for all of my ships), and I think that the 1D HRP, the 4D Shields (as opposed to size 3 shields), and 2x0E Shield boosters help there.

It's been configured as a material gatherer, which explains the Wake scanning module (DWE's), and I used the Point defence to help me out when I was gathering Guardian Blue Prints.

It is also why I have downsized the fuel tank to 16T, as I wanted to keep the amount of distance it could cover at a minimum quite high (I think this may mean it excludes this ship from reaching the highest point (or one of the highest points) on the galaxy, since last time I took the DBX out to the core with a 16T fuel tank, I was unable to reach this point not because of a lack of jump range, but because there simply wasn't enough fuel to get me there with so many Neutron star jumps between refills....so there are cases where a bigger fuel tank can take you places).

In any case, I'm pretty impressed with the DBX now; 8 slots gives it a lot more room to breath.
 

Madrax573

Madrax573
So now that the DBE has 8 internals and the FSS (I keep reading that as the scanner!) is a standard module on each ship now. How are people finding it for fully exploration duties? Or any other duties for that matter!
 

Retropolitan

Retropolitan
Madrax573 said:
So now that the DBE has 8 internals and the FSS (I keep reading that as the what are you doing scanner!) is a standard module on each ship now. How are people finding it for fully exploration duties?
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My second commander is flying a DBX as his exploration ship and I really enjoy it. It's nearly as capable as a Phantom in the same role and it boosts like crazy.
The biggest complaint people have about it is the size of its fuel scoop. This doesn't really trouble me because I top up the tank as I go; the only time it runs low is when I pass through a long series of non-scoopable stars.
My only concern is that its hull integrity is lower than you get with the larger ships. I've engineered it with Heavy Duty to improve that, and I carry a repair limpet controller just in case. But then I do the same thing with my Phantom.

I love the engine sound. It's like a piece of industrial equipment that's operating just a little beyond its specs. And that sound reminds me of the salvage ship from Farscape whose boiler ran on old dolls and garbage, with some part inside the engine you had to rub vigorously to get it started. Good times!
 

soloe

soloe
I use my DBX, the "Running Gag", mainly as a Bubble-Taxi and for Mats gathering. I love that versatile little ship.
While waiting for a ship to being transfered, she can handle almost any kind of job. And in combat she punches well over her weight.

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LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
I switched to DBX several days ago after making 550 kylies in AspX and 350 kylies in Phantom. The main goal was to squeeze some more jump range since my exploration style is more about highs and lows of the Galaxy rather than dense areas.

My impressions so far:
  • she jumps 68.3 Ly which is over 2 Ly farther than Phantom using the same modules (most of the core modules just moved from the Phantom, they are not extremely engineered)
  • the canopy view is much nicer comparing to Phantom
  • no more stupid lights in front of my face
  • she's more agile both in supercruise and in normal space
  • she runs cool
  • she sounds good
  • she can land almost everywhere

but

  • 4A scoop is almost three times slower than 5A so she requires scooping at maximum flow to not die of old age during the process... which means much bigger risk of a mishap
  • she shakes during scoop so much that I got nausea (!) and had to switch the "reduce camera movements" option on for the first time ever!

Anyway, thanks to reduced shaking and DSS (there is something to do during the scooping process) I like this ship very much. I'm absolutely sure that it's gonna be a long relationship and hundreds of kylies are ahead of us. :)
 

Badman76

Badman76
LifesAJourney said:
  • 4A scoop is almost three times slower than 5A so she requires scooping at maximum flow to not die of old age during the process... which means much bigger risk of a mishap
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She runs that cold though you could park up by a star and use the fss scanner whilst scooping. Thats what i do. She won't shake then either
 

Soron Silin

Soron Silin
Badman76 said:
She runs that cold though you could park up by a star and use the fss scanner whilst scooping. Thats what i do. She won't shake then either
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With any ship, if you keep heat below 66% then it will sit forever by the star without burning up. With a DBX that gives you about 80% fuel flow.
 

NecasekO

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Soron Silin said:
With any ship, if you keep heat below 66% then it will sit forever by the star without burning up. With a DBX that gives you about 80% fuel flow.
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That doesn't sound right. DBX is one of the coolest running ships in the game. In my experience, with an A rated power plant it can easily scoop at 100% rate without overheating.

If a DBX overheats before reaching max scooping rate it has to be running a lower efficiency power plant - either not A rated or with overcharged mod.
 

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
LifesAJourney said:
4A scoop is almost three times slower than 5A so she requires scooping at maximum flow to not die of old age during the process
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I usually make full slowdown in super cruise at ~80% scooping efficiency (extra safety measure to aviod overheating) and then I go to the kitchen to grab something, fuel tank is usually full when I go back ;)
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
With a bit of a practice you're perfectly capable of scooping at 100% flow and staying at 62-66% temperature (my ship is equipped with 3A power plant, level 4 Low Emissions with Thermal Spread).

So, while it's not really an issue that could disqualify DBX in any way, after spending almost three years with 5A scoop paired with 5C fuel tank, it's a significant step back. The worst situation is when you jump with almost no fuel into a system with no planets (no reason to play with DSS). Then there is nothing to do during the following 2 minutes, you can just sit and watch the fuel level going up ridiculously slow. o_O
 

Badman76

Badman76
LifesAJourney said:
With a bit of a practice you're perfectly capable of scooping at 100% flow and staying at 62-66% temperature (my ship is equipped with 3A power plant, level 4 Low Emissions with Thermal Spread).
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When travelling great distances i turn off all non essential modules like sensors, power distributor, shields, repair limpets, amfu, vehicle hanger ect, seems to help quite a bit. i scoop at about 50-55%. I do run with a 16t tank though
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
Nice! I also turn off all not necessary stuff but in my case it's not possible to stay at 50-55% level while scooping at 100% rate. More heat-dispersion-efficient engineering of your ship?
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
The efficiency of PP 3A is 0.16 for Lvl4+TS and 0.13 for Lvl5+TS. Not sure if it's enough to lower the temperature by whole 10%. Maybe different thrusters engineering? Dirty Drives greatly increase power consumption and thus temperatures.
 

Badman76

Badman76
LifesAJourney said:
The efficiency of PP 3A is 0.16 for Lvl4+TS and 0.13 for Lvl5+TS. Not sure if it's enough to lower the temperature by whole 10%. Maybe different thrusters engineering? Dirty Drives greatly increase power consumption and thus temperatures.
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I think on a different thread i asked if cold drives made much difference in super cruise and was told that dirty drives actually ran colder in super cruise.

Quote from Innocentius 'This misinformation for some reason just keeps on repeating again and again. In supercruise the only effect from your thrusters that affects your heat is their overall power usage. As clean drives actually use more power than dirty drives, they are hotter in supercruise than dirty drives, not the other way around. The small cooling effect that the clean drives has only affects temperatures in normal space outside supercruise.'

Maybe i just have more stuff turned of then you? i use 73.8% of power from the 3a power plant.

I would show screenshots but i don't know how you upload them from a ps4
 
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