DLC 19 Speculation

The_Riot22

The_Riot22
Perhaps it's because zoos used to name areas in their zoos more often based on animal types but now are going more towards regional?
So previously zoos would put all the monkeys, or bears, etc., in an area. But now zoos are trying to group animals together as much as possible based on region.
 

AndyZoos

A
Aramar said:
Just for curiosity, what would you prefer: a specific Amazon pack or a pack that covers several South American regions?
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The more general a pack is, the more likely it will be to tick more boxes for more players. Hyper-focused regional packs are a fun idea to daydream or speculate on but in reality... They're pretty limited with what they would add to the game in contrast to what people want. Arguably, the Amazon could give players the bulk of the highest-requested South American animals (maybe all?) but still. I'm not into limiting things.

The_Riot22 said:
Perhaps it's because zoos used to name areas in their zoos more often based on animal types but now are going more towards regional?
So previously zoos would put all the monkeys, or bears, etc., in an area. But now zoos are trying to group animals together as much as possible based on region.
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Maybe it's just my experience here in the US being a mix as to how things are organized but it was mostly always regionally organized. Though there was also organization by animal type at times too. Even now I think there's a big mix. Like, you'll have monkeys in a "Primate House" but you'll also have some in other parts of the zoo tailored toward specific regions.
 

Milurian

Milurian
AndyZoos said:
This is a great point, and one that I think is underdiscussed. Hah. Because, yeah, most pack names are literally one word (except Southeast Asia but that's a copout). So when considering pack names people should only really be thinking about singular adjectives, locations, etc. Interesting how the way things are marketed has changed over the years.

But, TBH, I also think people just tend to find a name that sounds good to them and fits the general theme. I don't think people are predicting they'll get the exact name correct. Though the ZT2 impact is still very real with so much of this.
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We have 3 packs that arent just a single word
  • north america
  • south america
  • south east asia

each of these however are essentially proper nouns though so other situations like central america or south africa could easily be on the table as pack names.
 

AndyZoos

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Milurian said:
We have 3 packs that arent just a single word
  • north america
  • south america
  • south east asia
each of these however are essentially proper nouns though so other situations like central america or south africa could easily be on the table as pack names.
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The fact that people aren't really thinking of those as "two words" though is all you really need to know. You're fully spot on about those being just proper nouns. So yeah, they're two words but most people don't really think of it in that way.

All in all, though, I'm honestly not expecting (nor hoping for) any more region-focused packs.
 

Marvinb

Marvinb
AndyZoos said:
Maybe it's just my experience here in the US being a mix as to how things are organized but it was mostly always regionally organized. Though there was also organization by animal type at times too. Even now I think there's a big mix. Like, you'll have monkeys in a "Primate House" but you'll also have some in other parts of the zoo tailored toward specific regions.
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There definitely is a mix, although i think the type based stuff is mostly the old, and it will slowly but surely move away from being organized by animal types as times goes on. Atleast from what ive seen the vast majority of new stuff being build goes with the organized by regions/biomes aproach, with a couple exceptions ofcourse where its just way to practical to not do it, like an aquarium for example.
And to be honest i think the organized by region/biome just works alot better, alteast from a visitors point of view. It give a way better impression of an ecosystem and it keeps it fresh because i feel if you have alot of similar animals all in one place you get kinda worn out by them.
From the perspective of the zoo having it all sorted by animal types is probably the more practical route tho, as similar animals usually require similar care and therefore having them all in one place makes it easier to care for them
 
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Mjmannella

Mjmannella
It really depends on how you define "Temperate" since it can vary quite considerably given its generality. My best shot at a more conservative list would be something like this:
  • Superb Lyrebird
  • Lace Monitor
  • Wild Turkey
  • Southern Pudu
  • Rhesus Macaque
  • Reeve's Muntjac
  • Virginia Opossum
  • European Turtle Dove (Walkthrough Exhibit)
 
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Chuditch

Chuditch
Thylaco said:
What's your current Temperate Animal Pack?
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  1. Short-beaked Echidna - add him frontier
  2. Virginia Opossum - One of the most unique North American mammals still missing from the game, would represent a new order of marsupials and another member of the NA trash gang
  3. Eastern Grey Kangaroo - Very hard choosing this over my beloved quolls, but whilst I could make a whole pack out of animals I want for temperate Australia, I genuinely feel that the humble eastern grey is the most important missing animal when it comes to making the region feel more complete. Also adds a larger animal to a pack otherwise comprised mostly of small species
  4. Yellow-throated Marten - While I’m done with carnivorans for the most part I still feel the game could use a marten. The yellow-throated is easily one of the most impressive and eye-catching members of the genus, and occupies a wider range of climates than any other marten species
  5. Southern Pudu - Either the pudu or the muntjac would be great, but the pudu gets extra points for being not only South American but Patagonian, helping to flesh out one of the most neglected regions in the PZ roster
  6. Mandarin Duck - No better place than a temperate pack to finally include the dynamic East Asian bird duo
  7. Golden Pheasant - See above
  8. Tuatara [E] - The last remaining essential animal for New Zealand and the only living representative of the fourth and final order of reptiles, Rhynchocephalia
EDIT: Pack concept image because I always like doing these when I have the time
PLANET-ZOO-TEMPERATE-ANIMAL-PACK.png
 
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Marvinb

Marvinb
Chuditch said:
  1. Short-beaked Echidna - add him frontier
  2. Virginia Opossum - One of the most unique North American mammals still missing from the game, would represent a new order of marsupials and another member of the NA trash gang
  3. Eastern Grey Kangaroo - Very hard choosing this over my beloved quolls, but whilst I could make a whole pack out of animals I want for temperate Australia, I genuinely feel that the humble eastern grey is the most important missing animal when it comes to making the region feel more complete. Also adds a larger animal to a pack otherwise comprised mostly of small species
  4. Yellow-throated Marten - While I’m done with carnivorans for the most part I still feel the game could use a marten. The yellow-throated is easily one of the most impressive and eye-catching members of the genus, and occupies a wider range of climates than any other marten species
  5. Southern Pudu - Either the pudu or the muntjac would be great, but the pudu gets extra points for being not only South American but Patagonian, helping to flesh out one of the most neglected regions in the PZ roster
  6. Mandarin Duck - No better place than a temperate pack to finally include the dynamic East Asian bird duo
  7. Golden Pheasant - See above
  8. Tuatara [E] - The last remaining essential animal for New Zealand and the only living representative of the fourth and final order of reptiles, Rhynchocephalia
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A fellow yellow throated marten enjoyer i see
. Very underated animal
 
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Milurian

Milurian
Marvinb said:
There definitely is a mix, although i think the type based stuff is mostly the old, and it will slowly but surely move away from being organized by animal types as times goes on. Atleast from what ive seen the vast majority of new stuff being build goes with the organized by regions/biomes aproach, with a couple exceptions ofcourse where its just way to practical to not do it, like an aquarium for example.
And to be honest i think the organized by region/biome just works alot better, alteast from a visitors point of view. It give a way better impression of an ecosystem and it keeps it fresh because i feel if you have alot of similar animals all in one place you get kinda worn out by them.
From the perspective of the zoo having it all sorted by animal types is probably the more practical route tho, as similar animals usually require similar care and therefore having them all in one place makes it easier to care for them
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region and biome are definitely the more common and in my opinion better sorting method for large open habitat animals. However among small animals ie birds, reptile and fish these are almost always clustered together as a group. What I have also found is that both systems are also used in combination you will get an Africa section with the chimpanzees and gorillas close together or aviaries specific to a certain area.
 
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