The release was a disaster, but most of the problems have already been fixed and the game has improved a lot. There are still some issues that need some work, but the game is becoming what most of us expected.
DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)
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For the most part PC2 is fixed but the damage caused has hurt the reputation of the game and the launch playerbase that aren’t dedicated have moved on. I wouldn’t say it’s as bad as Cities Skylines 2 or SimCity
it was a desaster. Not a small mess. It was really in a bad alpha stage.
After last update it is in a good state, after next it will be in the stage I personally expected it to be at launch.
I will forever hate the new controls and new sorting of building pieces. Multi select is a nightmare, multi recolor is missing. Some things suck the fun out of me after plaxing PZ since launch. I hope Frontier gets back to the roots. Also: Plant quality is terrible with some.
That said: It's a game I could NOW recommend to theme park enthusiast, while personally still have not coped fully with the bad launch. It tinted my expierince.
Gotcha
Apart of me wants to give PC2 a shot (didn’t play 1).
I hope y’all know where the quote I attached earlier is from considering it’s related to something else we were talking about frequently yesterday
Apart of me wants to give PC2 a shot (didn’t play 1).
I hope y’all know where the quote I attached earlier is from considering it’s related to something else we were talking about frequently yesterday
People who don't know where that quote came from are missing out on a masterpiece.
if there are indeed flying birds and the avian system is good, then I think most of us will buy it. Of course, 80 Species vs. now 200+ species is a huge gap, but birds are THE MOST WISHED THING in PZ, so
Entirely depends on how they handle cut species. If they get added later for free? It's fine. If they're being re-sold, boycott.
This is a pretty accurate assessment but while frontier wont risk it again they have already irreversible damaged their brand with planet coaster 2 and since its also standard practice in the entertainment world to make sequels that do the bare minimum or are actively worse than its previous entry people are already assuming a ploanet zoo sequal will be the bare minimum.
I think that everyone is just expecting a scammy sequel because thats all that seems to be made currently which is the part of the problem.
My thoughts are Frontier is faster at listening to feedback because they are more at risk financially both due to not having as long or as strong of a legacy as ea and from the audience that plays their games being less willing to put up with garbage practices. they wouldn't still be making sims kits if they didnt sell and thats ultimately the problem no matter how much people complain people still buy sims packs.
If the updates are not significant enough to outway the loss of species I can also safely assume the outcome. A sequel would need to give more that just birds and paths for a drop in half the available animals to be worth it to the majority of players. This situation is however what most players expect. A mild visual improvement, birds, paths and 80 animals.
Aviary birds only really became popular after most of the major large animals were added if they add 10 or so birds then people are going to go right back to complaining about mammals. Given how aviaries are actually treated in zoos often with tons of birds that are generally left unlabelled from most zoo media the individual species wont actually hold hold much power in engaging people just the concept of aviaries and some specific exceptions like condors and eagles.
Depending on the 80 species roster, and updates.
I believe there could be good enough 80 species roster (in combo with fish and birds) for me to buy the base game immediately. Otherwise, I'm waiting for roster to bulk up, like with the PZ1.
I don't see how would (realistically) PZ2 had to look (or the DLCs) for me to not buy it at all.
Wouldn't happen if they continued the Massive Plant vs Zombies franchise.
Frontier has two decisions, bring birds and avian system while also not being absolute scummy or bring birds and a crappy avian system with removing half of the animals and making them dlc.
Sigh... I'd love to see a modernized version of the original Sims... same simple gameplay, but with modern HD graphics and more assets... original Sim City too... could you imagine the original Sim City, but with expanded road and infrastructure options, education, water resource management, trash disposal and other modern elements to consider? Sounds so great...Sims 1 is still the best, in my opinion
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SimCity Classic, 2000, 3000, and 4 are so much fun, totally would love those re-released and expanded
3000 was always my favorite...
Were you able to create a diverse zoo with the base roster of Planet Zoo, or Zoo Tycoon 1 or 2? Frontier needs the game to be profitable. If they bring back all the animals from PZ1 to PZ2 they'd have nothing to sell to casual crowds. We are wayyy past ABC animal territory.
Games are not made to be art, they are made to be profitable. The gaming industry in general, and Frontier specifically, are in a bad situation currently. How do you think they can make a profitable game in the current industry if they don't carve out spaces for DLCs like they did in PZ1 with leaving many ABC animals (and animals for the first game in the sequel) out of the base roster? How is that financial model supposed to work? And unlike JWE where they can just "invent" cool models because dinosaurs don't have a real life definite model, they can't do it with animals. They can't invent new animals to have demand.
Intentionally withholding content purely for profit is not going to work. Planet Coaster 2 showed us (and frontier) that. If there's a valid reason, such as improved animations, then at least you can justify it. I'd still expect over 100 base game species.
That said, this thread has got incredibly off topic, debating jurassic park movies and planet zoo sequels. In an effort to get back on track: what's everyone's choice, if you could lock in one species for the upcoming DLC? Personally, I know it's controversial, but I've gotta take the Asiatic Lion
That's my very, very, very close second, just in behind the blackbuck.