DLCs if support continues throughout 2023...! What are your 6 more DLCs?
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Would switch cats, becaus both arent endangered. Since this pack lacks member of carnivora i would pick european mink or black-footed ferret .
Would like to propose another cat, but actually i think there are no endangered small cat species, which are kept in zoos at all.
I understand your debate for Pallas Cat, yes. But fishing cats are vulnerable to extinction so I'd still keep. But then I'd be glad to replace Pallas Cat with a ferret.
Surely in an endangered species pack, the species selected should be endangered?
If so, should I remove shoebill too? I mean does it really necessary to be ENDANGERED to extinction? Pandas are no longer listed endangered yet they still are considered so.
PS: But still I see your point. I'll think of an alternative. Kiwis perhaps?
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I mean...not really. To be considered 'endangered' a species generally has to be listed as such on the ICUN redlist. The only reason pandas are still referred to as 'endangered' is because the layman doesn't tend to pay attention to the news, so it travels slowly.
In any event it's your pack idea so you can put whatever you want in it. Personally if I was to do an Endangered Species Pack I would stick to animals within the endangered - criticially endangered - extinct in the wild parameters, and find a place for those other ones elsewhere (Pallas cat for example could go in a mountain biome pack).
As always thank you for commenting, NZFanatic. I'll keep it in mind.
PS: Notice I've added kiwi to ES Pack idea now
PSS: Any suggestions you can help with for replacements?
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You could always make it an "At Risk Pack" or "Threatened Species Pack" or something, which has a vaguer definition (technically every species on earth is "at risk" including humans, because of humans, so you could really put whatever you wanted in itAs always thank you for commenting, NZFanatic. I'll keep it in mind.
PS: Notice I've added kiwi to ES Pack idea now
PSS: Any suggestions you can help with for replacements?
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2022
ISLANDS animal pack
Tasmanian devil
Caribbean manatee
Fossa
Tree kangaroo
Walrus
Kiwi
Lar gibbon
Anniversary animal: Père David’s deer
Mountains pack
Golden Takin
Wolverine
Lion tailed macaque
Spectacled bear
2023
Middle East
Porcupine
Baboon
Caracal
Dromedary
Striped hyena
Addax
Somali wild donkey
Latin America
Maned wolf
Sloth
South American Coati
Howler monkey
Plains
Emu
Wombat
Serval
Armadillo
Guereza
Black rhino
Musk ox
Anniversary animal: Red River hog
Birds
Gray crowned crane
Shoebill
Pelican
Secretary bird
Farewell animal: Markhor
ISLANDS animal pack
Tasmanian devil
Caribbean manatee
Fossa
Tree kangaroo
Walrus
Kiwi
Lar gibbon
Anniversary animal: Père David’s deer
Mountains pack
Golden Takin
Wolverine
Lion tailed macaque
Spectacled bear
2023
Middle East
Porcupine
Baboon
Caracal
Dromedary
Striped hyena
Addax
Somali wild donkey
Latin America
Maned wolf
Sloth
South American Coati
Howler monkey
Plains
Emu
Wombat
Serval
Armadillo
Guereza
Black rhino
Musk ox
Anniversary animal: Red River hog
Birds
Gray crowned crane
Shoebill
Pelican
Secretary bird
Farewell animal: Markhor
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Two anniversary animals and a farewell animal. That is optimistic, to say the least.
Here is my wish if support continued throughout 2023. This would knock out multiple highly requested animals, whilst also bringing some niche species to the game that may not necessarily be the most asked for, but would bring something unique to the game.
-2022-
Woodlands Animal Pack
Nocturnal Pack
-2023-
Grasslands Animal Pack
Islands Pack
Rivers Animal Pack
Domestic Pack
-2022-
Woodlands Animal Pack
- Red Deer
- Wolverine
- European Wild Boar
- Red Fox
- Raccoon
- Striped Skunk
- Eurasian Brown Bear
- Greater Stag Beetle (E)
Nocturnal Pack
- Aye Aye
- Kirk’s Dik Dik
- North Island Brown Kiwi
- Linnaeus’ Two Toed Sloth
- Blind Cave Tetra (E)
-2023-
Grasslands Animal Pack
- Maned Wolf
- Crested Porcupine
- Black Footed Ferret
- European Bison
- Eastern Black Rhinoceros
- Blackbuck
- Emu
- King Cobra (E)
Islands Pack
- West Indian Manatee
- Fossa
- Tasmanian Devil
- Gaur
- Coconut Crab (E)
Rivers Animal Pack
- Alligator Snapping Turtle
- Red River Hog
- Shoebill Stork
- Amazonian Manatee
- North American River Otter
- Arrau Turtle
- Nile Crocodile
- Red Bellied Piranha (E)
Domestic Pack
- Highland Cattle
- Kunekune Pig
- African Pygmy Goat
- Mediterranean Miniature Donkey
- Bearded Dragon (E)
These are some really creative suggestions, imo it just needs to drop some of the clones.
For example, do we really need 2 different manatees?
There are also some i would swap around for diversity change, for example the north american river otter to the eurasian one, because that one is just nuts, living in every biome from the iberian peninsula, to the deserts of africa and the middle east, the tundra and freljords of norway, along the rivers of the asian steppes and even the tropical forests of indonasia somehow?
Other would be for accuracy, for example the european bison is actually no grassland but woodland animal, which is the biggest differentiating from the plains bison we allready have.
But overall great list.
Yeah, I wanted to keep it a little realistic in my expectations. We all know that Frontier loves one or two clones in each pack. Reusing models is part of how they keep putting out DLC without spending a tonne of money on the production. I reckon realistically that we’ll have many more clones in future packs.
And I didn’t know that about the European Bison, since at one of my local zoos they are housed in a huge grassland paddock. What would you put into a pack like that instead?
Its not that there are clones, its that they are to obvious of clones.
For example, european bison in an animal pack? Good clone
Eurasian brown bear? Bad clone
The best thing to determine how decent of an addition a very similar animal is, is if they have either obvious morphological differences for example the black rhino, have a different biome, range and/new needs, for example the dingo is not the best, but its reasonable as the 6. Most common habitat style animal from australia in the eaza, a canine which is something new to australia, aswell as its apex predator and a desert dog.
It has enough gameplay uniqueness to be in the game, eventhough i agree that any other marsupial would have been more exciting.
Funny examples, because I think the opposite.
I feel like I'd get a lot more use out of a Eurasian brown bear than I would a wisent.
More Use? Yes, same here, but thats not because we need the brown bear, but because the base game bears are potatos with one of them being a mistake.
The Pros and Cons of the EBB are:
Pros:
Cons:
European Bison:
Pros:
Cons:
- Only slight Morphological Differences in Size, Hairyness and Facial Structure, but still more then the bears
If you got more cons, sure tell me, but while i love both, id much rather have the bison with its actual gameplay differences in biomes, group size and atleast a small one in looks.
Also we really dont need more non spectacle bears imo
The Pros and Cons of the EBB are:
Pros:
- new, better Modell
- very common in Zoos
- large Range
- European Representation
Cons:
- We allready got two Brownbears, even if the basegame ones are seen as inferior to a new one with a better Modell, its hard to argue for a literal third brownbear in our normal Dlc
- Outside of a dedicated Clone pack or a gift animal (in both places it would be great), its hard to dedicate a slot to basicly a title, as a recent little game has shown, that its pretty hard to actually differentiate the bears, besides the syrian brown bear
- Gameplaywise it would just be a slightly smaller grizzly.
European Bison:
Pros:
- Its a Bovine, a by now underrepresented group
- European Representation
- It lives in Woodlands and Mountainous Regions, one of them being severly under represented
- Different Social Requirements, most notably with male Baechlors living in Pairs, lower then the American Bisons general 3
Cons:
- Only slight Morphological Differences in Size, Hairyness and Facial Structure, but still more then the bears
If you got more cons, sure tell me, but while i love both, id much rather have the bison with its actual gameplay differences in biomes, group size and atleast a small one in looks.
Also we really dont need more non spectacle bears imo
Honestly it's hard to argue for either. As far as I'm concerned personal preference is all that matters. I barely use the American bison as is, and it's actually an animal I'm familiar with. The brown bear, on the other hand, would be far more useful to me, as my zoos are often lacking a brown bear because I don't see a mid-budget European zoo opting for the grizzly instead when the Eurasian would be far more easily available.
In any case we're not likely to receive either of these animals. Neither features especially high on the wishlist and the desire for another brown bear or a wisent seems pretty low all around.
Edit: If we're talking bovids, my preference would be the banteng. Beautiful and exotic.
Oh I upvote that. It's native to my home country too
From the 2 choices here I think the European brown bear and the Wisent would both be cool to have as clones. They are both good clones. But personnally I think they wouldn't be less interesting in bringing variety to our zoos than other european clones specially in term of mid budget animals.
Here are few examples:
Red Fox : Different in colors and biomes (spans to every biomes), Nice addition to the arctic fox
Alpine marmot (could be american or siberian species): Slightly bigger and fluffier and more Taiga and tundra biomes. This clone of the Praire dog could be easy filler in the alpine part of the zoo
Chamois (Alpine, Pyreenean, Caucasian, Vosgian and so on) can easily have nice fur variation depending on the species choice and different horns than Dall sheep or Alpine ibex. Plus they easily fit a forest like temperate, in the Vosges (East France) they can be found very low in altitude.
In term of bad clone despite I would love it I would say Red deer. Which cover more or less the same use than a Fallow deer.
An other clone that would be great and could have taken the spot of the Amur Leopard in this Conservation pack is the Iberian lynx.
I personally think that Europe animals should now be all clones because "new" rigs should be dedicated to key animals missing in lacking areas. While European biodiversity missing is largely close to animals we already have (NA, Asia,...). Despite I am craving for European representation ^^
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