Do NOT get a "free" Steam key if you want to support Frontier

Man, what the hell happened to Gabe Newell? Valve, instead of making games, are just hoarding money for the last 10 years.
 
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As far as I'm concerned, I will stick with Frontier. They explained well enough why they need us to do so. I bought skins and merchandises from their store, and will continue to do so to support them.

Besides, I can't see real benefits of having a steam key for Elite. I like Steam for many reasons, but I'd ratherhave Elite funding dedicated to Frontier only.
 
not bothering with a steam key, because i can already play the game as is. i don't care about either company's bottom line. that's their problem.
 
Steam deserve there "finders fee" for bringing new customers to frontier but for all of those that bought the game direct from frontier, why would you want a steam key and thus give a chunk of your future expansion and addons fee to valve.
 
I got this game on Steam and waited for it. And i will do anything to support Valve and Steam, they done so much for the gaming industry and they deserve it. Frontier gets enough money so far and with Steam they can reach way more people than before, paying a bit for joining the biggest gaming plattform ever - its worth it.
 
I got a steam key, but I don't buy DLC, haha.

I do buy physical merchandise though :)

And once I transfer my install over to Steam, I'll post a glowing review, which hopefully will help to drive more sales.
 
Man, what the hell happened to Gabe Newell? Valve, instead of making games, are just hoarding money for the last 10 years.

That's how a good company works - focus on what brings in most money.

Making games is expensive. Creating a platform that takes a huge cut from every sale - not that much. Ever wondered why anyone wants to sell things? Because that's where the money is.
The game producers get maybe 30-40% in the end, after the banks have taken their cut (well, they did lend money, but often at outrageous costs) - and most of that go to management (sales persons themselves, mostly).
 
I got this game on Steam and waited for it. And i will do anything to support Valve and Steam, they done so much for the gaming industry and they deserve it. Frontier gets enough money so far and with Steam they can reach way more people than before, paying a bit for joining the biggest gaming plattform ever - its worth it.
I've pre-purchased my copy directly from Frontier but totally agree with you in this case.
Frontier gets a lot more players thanks to Steam.
 
So... deep breath... then dive in to the Great Recap...

foil hats off :) , if you buy from ed store steam do not get a cut. simple as that. if you do have a steam key also and you buy expansions and whatnot from the ed store frontier get all the cash + it will still be linked on steam as all that does is log into your account anyway. the suggestion to buy from frontier is simply that, buying from them gives frontier all the money. buy the same dlc from steam and they take a cut. either way both will link to your main account no matter if its on steam or not.

Yes they do. Now re-confirmed.


I'm going to have to see someone from FD publicly say here that the agreed upon deal for legacy customers is they get a cut, because that's not the sense I get when I load from steam and it launches the FD launcher and no it isn't the secondary interface between the two launchers before the keys were given out. If it is then I'll disconnect my account if I can.

And It Has Come To Pass.

But I doubt you can disconnect your FD Store account from Steam. What's done is done.


My goodness what a silly idea. Some people are under the imperssion that Valve is somehow forcing Frontier to use their service, and that Frontier is somehow losing money because of this. First of all, Frontier is a multi-billion dollar company, so is Valve. Frontier decided to sell their product through steam. They did this for theirown financial reasons, better marketing and so on. Froniter knows the full implication of being on steam, they also understand the financial implications of giving out steam keys to all existing players. If it was really so financially destructive to do so, they would not have done it. But to clear it up a little more, I think it works like this. Any one who buys the game now through steam, Valve will get a cut, sure, makes sense. But in what way will me linking my account, who I have already paid frontier in full, take money away from frontier in the future? When I launch ED, it starts their launcher, ever notice that all the extra products, merchandise, paint jobs, etc. are all advertised within their launcher, not on the steam page. Also I assume all future expansions for ED will most likely be sold through the ED launcher, not steam. You don't need to worry so much about Frontiers financial situation, Valve is not evil, they are partners working together. Any one who hates steam for one reason or another, but loves PC gaming needs to do some soul searching. Steam has single handedly brought PC gaming from the dead. 10 years ago all the predictions were for consoles to take over, now it's exactly the opposite, and we have steam to thank for that.

In the magic way that linking your FD account to Steam makes it a Steam account.


in big red and to be frank no game Dev going to tell you jack this was also brought up on sto forums and we got jack nothing from them to

The game devs just did. Again.


Today's clarification from Edward Lewis simply reiterates the same thing he stated two days ago... which ties in consistently with Michael Brookes' statement on April 9th's Dev Update.
 
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Seems like a perfectly reasonable bandwidth charge to me. Valve provide the files as a mirror to Steam users in exchange for 30% of any DLC charges. Bandwidth is not free and Steams network is much faster than Fdevs (technically Amazon's)
 
As a kick starter with 84 roots and a steam account holder I want to say the following.

1. I have no issue with Steam. The service is pretty pain free and convenient for many of my gaming needs.
However
2. ED will remain ringfenced. FD only account until such time as there is a good reason for me to give anything less than 100% of my cash to the original developer.

Why would I want to link it? I'm struggling to understand. Perhaps there are features I don't use on steam?

Cheers
 
Seems like a perfectly reasonable bandwidth charge to me. Valve provide the files as a mirror to Steam users in exchange for 30% of any DLC charges. Bandwidth is not free and Steams network is much faster than Fdevs (technically Amazon's)

This is the main reason I linked my account to Steam, I got very tired of downloading patches at 7kB/s.

Additionnal perks are the fact my friends can know when I'm playing, and the Steam overlay.
 
Wow if this is true, I regret linking my account now. The more valve does, the more I think they're just like EA but more likable.

-Charging 15 $ for virtual hats in tf2. Not to mention turning it into a microtransaction laden hell hole.

-Demanding all dlc be sold through them. Going so far as to remove games that don't follow that rule.

-Supporting early access games with no regulation, allowing any crap game to get released. Seriously I've seen flash games on new grounds, better than 50% of the games on early access, or steam greenlight.

-Thinking charging for mods for for a 3 year old game was a good idea. Not only that but they also took 30% of every mod sold and wouldn't pay out any money, until the modder made at least 100$.

-Still not releasing half life 3.

Each sin worse than the last. I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting, but either way, valave needs to get its act together.
 
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-Still not releasing half life 3.
HTC VIVE and HL-3 incomming together:D At least i hope so... New VR will need some games for it. And what could be better, than a game? But honestly, i awaited anounce on 03.03.2015 03 pm on GDC, but it was about physics (for VR, i think :D).
And yes, i get steam key. And i will but from steam DLC for E:D, untill they cut off from game that damn grinding system. I want huge ships for lesser price. And modules too. And now that 10% penalty for selling modules. Sad :(
 
I got this game on Steam and waited for it. And i will do anything to support Valve and Steam, they done so much for the gaming industry and they deserve it. Frontier gets enough money so far and with Steam they can reach way more people than before, paying a bit for joining the biggest gaming plattform ever - its worth it.

I've pre-purchased my copy directly from Frontier but totally agree with you in this case.
Frontier gets a lot more players thanks to Steam.

I think the 30% cut for Steam sales or sales via the steam.elitedangerous.com store is perfectly fine and the price Frontier pay to reach that wider market.
I think Valve getting their greedy, grasping fingers into Frontier's own store (just because the accounts are linked) is scummy.
 
This is the main reason I linked my account to Steam, I got very tired of downloading patches at 7kB/s.

Additionnal perks are the fact my friends can know when I'm playing, and the Steam overlay.

Wow, what was up with your connection? The download from AWS is always super fast for me. Never seems to drop much below 11Mb/s.
 
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