ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread

Expect an update from Oculus of some sort regards DK2 July deliveries either next Tuesday or before. They made a slip up saying that they'd send out a mass email and then retracted it saying they might do a Reddit thread instead.

Why email you customers directly when you can post your updates on a 3rd part chat site that some of them don't use and there's no guarantee will read.
 
Why email you customers directly when you can post your updates on a 3rd part chat site that some of them don't use and there's no guarantee will read.

Yeah, that's what I thought when they retracted the statement about mass email on the 1st to "Oh we meant we'll create a reddit thread".
Think ass covered due to an unintentional slip up was the reason.
 
They already have it on the F35. It has cameras all over the body which are stitched together to give a seamless view in the pilots helmet so they can effectively see thru the fuselage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoVQA1_PGM

Thanks, pretty much exactly what I was thinking of at 3:17. As others have said the cockpit is a weakness and you could mitigate that while providing better visibility (I'm back in Elite now). Plus it's the future. Is it the Asp that had a tiny slot window? I could imagine that as a made for VR ship. The slot is very tough and small the rest of the cockpit is plated hull. So the pilot uses VR and hull cameras primarily. A smart enemy could target the cameras and then the pilot would have to rely on the slot to get home. As a player you couldn't really fly it well without a rift so maybe just a one off expansion sponsored by a well known interested party.
 
I am thinking about getting a DK2 or I may wait for the final release.
I have questions and I apologise if this has already been discussed I confess I have not read all the posts in this thread

With ED in mind.

What will you be using for sound and why?
Will it be headphones or surround speaker set-up?
What will work best?
Dedicated Sound card or motherboard sound?
What should I look to be getting as the perfect sound to compliment the oculus rift?
I do not want to be spending more than £200 on sound equipment and I will be purchasing a new computer to run the oculus rift.
 
What will you be using for sound and why?
Will it be headphones or surround speaker set-up?
What will work best?
Dedicated Sound card or motherboard sound?
What should I look to be getting as the perfect sound to compliment the oculus rift?

TLDR: Headphones are better and Oculus are including some with the consumer unit, so it'd be better to wait and see than spend money now.

If you keep in mind that a traditional speaker system does not provide a sound environment that encompasses three dimensions, then the only good answer is headphones. Traditional speaker systems are arranged on a plane (2D), and as such are physically incapable of reproducing vertically displaced sound that you'd be able to naturally track by tilting your head left/right. (This isn't an issue with traditional displays as there's an assumption made that your head is fixed and facing forward. Because of that, games are able to simulate that vertical displacement by modulating the sound with HRTF, similar to how front/back 3D sound can be simulated with stereo headphones.) Speakers can sound bigger and more open/airy/natural, but they'll never sound more positionally accurate, and accuracy in this particular case is much more important.

Headphones essentially are a VR headset for your ears, and virtually every game in existence already has the audio reception pinned to the game's camera location and orientation. Couple that with the tracking of a VR headset and you end up with audio tracking appropriately with your physical head no matter how you twist, tilt, pitch or move it.

If you're waiting for the consumer unit, then just sit tight as Oculus have stated they'll be including some form of audio solution, at which point you'll be able to decide if you want to use their provided headphones or purchase your own. Either way, you can bet on the fact that you'll be using some form of stereo headphone that's using HRTF to provide surround sound, and the sound field around you will track naturally corresponding to your head location and orientation.
 
TLDR: Headphones are better and Oculus are including some with the consumer unit, so it'd be better to wait and see than spend money now.

If you keep in mind that a traditional speaker system does not provide a sound environment that encompasses three dimensions, then the only good answer is headphones. Traditional speaker systems are arranged on a plane (2D), and as such are physically incapable of reproducing vertically displaced sound that you'd be able to naturally track by tilting your head left/right. (This isn't an issue with traditional displays as there's an assumption made that your head is fixed and facing forward. Because of that, games are able to simulate that vertical displacement by modulating the sound with HRTF, similar to how front/back 3D sound can be simulated with stereo headphones.) Speakers can sound bigger and more open/airy/natural, but they'll never sound more positionally accurate, and accuracy in this particular case is much more important.

Headphones essentially are a VR headset for your ears, and virtually every game in existence already has the audio reception pinned to the game's camera location and orientation. Couple that with the tracking of a VR headset and you end up with audio tracking appropriately with your physical head no matter how you twist, tilt, pitch or move it.

If you're waiting for the consumer unit, then just sit tight as Oculus have stated they'll be including some form of audio solution, at which point you'll be able to decide if you want to use their provided headphones or purchase your own. Either way, you can bet on the fact that you'll be using some form of stereo headphone that's using HRTF to provide surround sound, and the sound field around you will track naturally corresponding to your head location and orientation.

Thank you for the info
 
I've got a DK2 coming as well and should be in the first shipment. I'm looking forward to the higher resolution but I'm not expecting miracles or anything great, as I feel this is simply an incremental update. Even with DK2, I'm not expecting text to be readable. I mean really, it's going to be 960x1080 per eye at best. Try reducing your Windows resolution to that and see how usable it is.

It's known that CV1 will offer even higher specs and I would not be surprised if there's a DK3 -- perhaps if only a prototype CV1. Anyone expecting CV1 to be released in 2014 or even early 2015 will be disappointed. It takes a ton of time to create great content designed specifically with VR in mind and not just "make it work" (i.e. take any 3D game and have it displayed on a headset). I'd expect nothing earlier than end of 2015, and that's an aggressive date, imho. The headset itself isn't the only thing they need to solve for. Persistence is tough to get right, and I get the sense Oculus are willing to take the time to do so. They certainly have the money now. :)
 
right now the tentative release date for cv1 is early 2015

I've tried using both DK1 and DK2 (not with this game yet) and i can tell you it's much nicer with DK2
 
right now the tentative release date for cv1 is early 2015

I've tried using both DK1 and DK2 (not with this game yet) and i can tell you it's much nicer with DK2

Yeah. I reckon that if they expected CV1 to be released within 12 months of DK2, they'd not bother with DK2. That's what tipped my over into buying.
 
Hopefully oculus are releasing concrete delivery dates for the 1st batch of DK2s today.
PS its not ED related but..

bring it on!!!

http://www.stuff.tv/e3-2014/alien-i...o-frightening-you-might-not-want-play/feature

There's a good chance that us in blighty won't hear till tomorrow as Oculus are based in San Francisco and they're 8 hours behind (I think). I'm not entirely confident that we will hear anything today or tomorrow either. I know Cybereality (Oculus employee) posted something on their forums about a mass email on the 1st or before but then said that he meant something different.

The first email we will receive from them will probably be about them processing orders and to make sure you have the money etc..
After I guess about a week they will start to ship so I don't think we'll get them till the end of next week at the earliest. Happy to be wrong though as I WANT MY DK2!!! :)
 

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I'll be honest here, my hooks are rather tender at the moment waiting for a email off OR. :D
 
I'll be honest here, my hooks are rather tender at the moment waiting for a email off OR. :D

You and me both. I got "RIFT" written across the calendar on the fridge, on the July page. When I turned it to July this morning, while making coffee, my heart jumped as I remembered.
 
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