ED:Odyssey Update 7 Performance Issue and proofs

Oh right...

What is your frame rate like walking on an atmospheric body in Horizons?
Since you can't walk in Horizons, you can only compare by using the next best thing: driving on a non-atmospheric body with an SRV (which uses the same rendering engine as on-foot FPS in Odyssey).

Horizons: 100+ FPS @ 3440x1440 native resolution x1.25 supersampling (+coloured lighting)
Odyssey: 30-45 FPS @ 3440x1440 native resolution (no supersampling) (+coloured lighting doesn't even work)

Do you think the rendering engine in Elite is OK when it only offers 1/3 the framerates in equivalent scenarios? Do you think this is acceptable for SRV driving, let alone on foot FPS?
 
Load of stuff...

Do you think the rendering engine in Elite is OK when it only offers 1/3 the framerates in equivalent scenarios? Do you think this is acceptable for SRV driving, let alone on foot FPS?
I can read and comprehend the words that Frontier CMs have written, telling anyone with the available brain processing power that Odyssey has serious issues... I don't know if you have noticed it being mentioned in several places around the forum, take a look otherwise.

All I see in these posts is the usual trolling by the disenchanted who are unable to digest simple information - it isn't going to stop, even when the render engine for Odyssey is fixed (whenever that might be) because complain is fun, amirite?
 
Since you can't walk in Horizons, you can only compare by using the next best thing: driving on a non-atmospheric body with an SRV (which uses the same rendering engine as on-foot FPS in Odyssey).

Horizons: 100+ FPS @ 3440x1440 native resolution x1.25 supersampling (+coloured lighting)
Odyssey: 30-45 FPS @ 3440x1440 native resolution (no supersampling) (+coloured lighting doesn't even work)

Do you think the rendering engine in Elite is OK when it only offers 1/3 the framerates in equivalent scenarios? Do you think this is acceptable for SRV driving, let alone on foot FPS?
Well!
If you're gonna compare how an apple tastes against how an orange tastes...............I'll leave you to it :ROFLMAO:
 
OH I get it!
No, you really don't.
You want this thread to give the impression that EVERY player is having performance issues & disregarding poster's posts of decent performances as being 'off topic'.
Where in this thread did you say you were getting decent performance?

You were only comparing Odyssey to Star Citizen, which is what I said was (a) off-topic, and (b) incomparable.

Even if you had said you were getting decent performance (with evidence, to help backup your claim), it still wouldn't be very helpful since we already know that some people are getting good performance, but that's because they are either using one of the most powerful graphics cards money can buy (and getting mediocre performance by any objective standard), or tend to go quiet when they are asked to provide evidence of their good performance.
I wouldn't know how Odyssey compares to Horizons on either of my laptops that Iv used......as Iv been quite happy enjoying Odyssey, that Iv not wanted to go back to Horizons, not even to update the gamefiles.
That's great. For you.

It's not helpful to the people who are all experiencing objectively poor performance.
Why other's are having performance issue's? I have no idea. Though I count myself fortunate that I'm not one of them & yes I do get decent performances in Odyssey AND the game IS playable..........sorry if you want me to post a different answer, but I can't.
And how does that contribute to this discussion?

What framerates are you getting in specific activities?
What resolution are you playing in?
What is your hardware configuration?
What graphics settings are you using?
 
Well!
If you're gonna compare how an apple tastes against how an orange tastes...............I'll leave you to it :ROFLMAO:

I'm with Nanite on this.

At the end of the day, while they have changed the planetary generation, what you're seeing isn't that much different when driving a SRV around a planet away from and settlements (and really, settlements shouldn't be hitting performance so hard either, but that's a different topic).

I really can't grok why performance is so bad in Odyssey for the same thing in Horizons, except that it must be something badly wrong with the code.
 
I can read and comprehend the words that Frontier CMs have written, telling anyone with the available brain processing power that Odyssey has serious issues... I don't know if you have noticed it being mentioned in several places around the forum, take a look otherwise.
Yea, let's just all go quiet and not point out that after 5 months and 7 updates performance in Odyssey has not improved by any meaningful amount.

No, I think we'll just keep banging that drum thank you very much. If you don't like it, then no one is forcing you to participate in any of the discussions.

But if you do choose to participate in those discussions, at least try and stay on topic.
All I see in these posts is the usual trolling by the disenchanted who are unable to digest simple information - it isn't going to stop, even when the render engine for Odyssey is fixed (whenever that might be) because complain is fun, amirite?
Well, lucky for us the usual 'enchanted' are here to tell us that we should all just stop complaining because their game is fine and the game's issues don't affect them anyway, so what's the problem, amirite?

If the game is so good for you, then why are you spending so much time on the forums wagging your finger at people who are upset at having spent money for Odyssey and getting a bad experience? Wouldn't you be a lot happier if you were to just play the game and ignore the nay-sayers?
 
More stuff..

If the game is so good for you, then why are you spending so much time on the forums wagging your finger at people who are upset at having spent money for Odyssey and getting a bad experience? Wouldn't you be a lot happier if you were to just play the game and ignore the nay-sayers?
Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMDxO-v31GNAn11hh-gUdUg

I've spent far more time playing in Odyssey than berating the sad folk... Livestreaming too...

I spent money too... Except I'm getting value for it (£100 on 3 accounts, if you need to know!) as I am able to play it well enough to enjoy, even on what is to be considered a 'last generation' PC.

Ah... The habitual nay sayers... "Gotta scream all of the time to cover the sounds of Frontier working to fix things", are those the ones you are referring to? Do you truly believe if you shut up they would quietly stop working on fixing Odyssey?
 
I don't watch live streamers. I took a quick look at yours and was able to see your SRV experience.

Let's just say that what you consider "acceptable performance" isn't shared by many of the people on this forum.
I've spent far more time playing in Odyssey than berating the sad folk... Livestreaming too...
Good. I'm happy for you.
I spent money too... Except I'm getting value for it (£100 on 3 accounts, if you need to know!) as I am able to play it well enough to enjoy, even on what is to be considered a 'last generation' PC.
Like I said in an earlier comment, please do continue to dismiss the genuine issues other people are having. The main thing is that you think the game runs fine for you, and so of course you must keep telling us that.
Ah... The habitual nay sayers... "Gotta scream all of the time to cover the sounds of Frontier working to fix things", are those the ones you are referring to?
Ah... The habitual optimists... "Gotta scream all of the time to cover the sounds of actual examples of broken things", am I doing this right?
Do you truly believe if you shut up they would quietly stop working on fixing Odyssey?
Do you truly believe if "we" shut up they would continue to think this was a high priority issue? FDev have demonstrated that they operate a complaint-driven-development policy, so you have to complain to get things fixed.

If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to participate in those discussions. Just go back to livestreaming - everything is OK.
 
Ah... The habitual optimists... "Gotta scream all of the time to cover the sounds of actual examples of broken things", am I doing this right?
almost... I do understand that when one is presented with an illustration of futile behaviour that an infantile response appears appropriate, but at least try to be vaguely original in its presentation. 3/10 for effort (y)
 
So why are you complaining?

(I am having way too much fun to wish to not engage with other forum members - after all we are all equal here, aren't we?)
Sorry - let me clarify: everything is OK for you.

And what else matters, really?
almost... I do understand that when one is presented with an illustration of futile behaviour that an infantile response appears appropriate, but at least try to be vaguely original in its presentation. 3/10 for effort (y)
The lack of self awareness in that statement... 😏
 
Sorry - let me clarify: everything is OK for you.
Of course everything is OK for me, not 'perfect' - of course - but it will improve as Frontier work, even without me complaining, as they are working to improve performance, they told us so and keep assuring us that work is ongoing...

Tell me, if your car had a major issue and the garage told you it would take several months to source the parts to repair it, would you be on the phone to them every couple of hours to ask if it is ready yet? That is certainly what appears to be happening here with the fixes to Odyssey 🤷‍♂️

As for everyone else claiming to have issues (even those with allegedly superior hardware to my own) with Odyssey? Issues they may have, but there is nothing to be gained by calling out that they have issues when Frontier's dev team are working full-time to deal with the issues, it isn't going to make them work any faster, is it?
 
Of course everything is OK for me, not 'perfect' - of course - but it will improve as Frontier work, even without me complaining, as they are working to improve performance, they told us so and keep assuring us that work is ongoing...
Hope springs eternal.
Tell me, if your car had a major issue and the garage told you it would take several months to source the parts to repair it, would you be on the phone to them every couple of hours to ask if it is ready yet?
No, but then car manufacturer's generally tend to have more than one customer.

If my car had a multitude of issues, I would absolutely report them to the manufacturer. I would also expect the manufacturer's call centre to be flooded with complaints and reports of those defects every day from all their customers until they were fixed.

Edit: Just to add, I would hope that my car manufacturer would also have a working system for raising issues. As it is, a bug with Frontier's official Issue Tracker means I am unable to raise any new issues, so how else would someone in my position go about raising new issues?
That is certainly what appears to be happening here with the fixes to Odyssey 🤷‍♂️
Then it may be a good idea to spend less time on the forums while the game still has a multitude of issues, because you're just going to be disappointed otherwise.
As for everyone else claiming to have issues (even those with allegedly superior hardware to my own) with Odyssey? Issues they may have, but there is nothing to be gained by calling out that they have issues when Frontier's dev team are working full-time to deal with the issues, it isn't going to make them work any faster, is it?
Actually, the more people that provide evidence and report their own experiences, hardware configuration, etc..., the more information FDev will have available to help nail down the issues.

Sorry that you don't like it, but most people really are trying to contribute meaningfully and really do want to see this game fixed. But people are also getting understandably impatient, and that's going to show.

As of right now, FDev have not said anything that gives me confidence that they know what is causing these problems, let alone how to fix them. It's 5 months and 7 updates later, and they appear to be no closer to a solution.
 
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As of right now, FDev have not said anything that gives me confidence that they know what is causing these problems, let alone how to fix them. It's 5 months and 7 updates later, and they appear to be no closer to a solution.
I know, you keep mentioning the same in various threads...

Fortunately, Frontier appear to have more confidence in their abilities than you do, one of you must be wrong 🤷‍♂️
Sorry that you don't like it
Sorry... What don't I like? I never realised we were such close friends that you knew my preferences!
Then it may be a good idea to spend less time on the forums while the game still has a multitude of issues, because you're just going to be disappointed otherwise.
I've told you once already... I'll do exactly what I wish... I'm not disappointed, have I mentioned being disappointed? Perhaps you ought to consider your own advice?
 
I know, you keep mentioning the same in various threads...

Fortunately, Frontier appear to have more confidence in their abilities than you do, one of you must be wrong 🤷‍♂️
I've bookmarked this comment and will check in with you again in 2 months.
Sorry... What don't I like? I never realised we were such close friends that you knew my preferences!
This:
All I see in these posts is the usual trolling by the disenchanted who are unable to digest simple information - it isn't going to stop, even when the render engine for Odyssey is fixed (whenever that might be) because complain is fun, amirite?
and this:
Ah... The habitual nay sayers... "Gotta scream all of the time to cover the sounds of Frontier working to fix things", are those the ones you are referring to? Do you truly believe if you shut up they would quietly stop working on fixing Odyssey?
Seems as though you have a problem with people complaining about the performance issues.

Like I said - if you don't like it, don't participate.
 
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