News Elite Dangerous 2.4 The Return Release Date

Although this is obviously good news, I'm hoping that we'll get some kind of new about the next main update (i.e.post-Horizons season) to the game before too long.

I suspect I'm not alone in that although yes, the Thargoid stuff is good to have in-game, flying around the bubble after them with some new weapons on my ship isn't really something that seems to sit alongside my gameplay focus now. To be honest, combat is the aspect of the game that I find myself least interested in these days; my combat rank went to 80% deadly about a year ago but today it still only sits at 87%.

I very much hope that the Thargoids aren't going to be confined to the bubble and in particular that the huge sectors of space around the Orion nebula which have been locked off for a year or more are finally going to be opened and will have some Thargoid related content to be discovered, as well as hopefully more even further outside the bubble.

What I'm still longing for though is more content in general far outside the bubble. Something that means when I get in my ship and head 15k into the black, I actually have things to do other than 1) Jump again 2) take a picture or 3) drive round a completely empty planet occasionally shooting a rock. It's almost two years since Horizons launched and although the changes to the game during the season mean we can get out into the more distant regions of the galaxy faster than ever before, once we do that, there is literally nothing that wasn't there on the Horizons release date other than a handful of planetary bases that were injected to provide story content for Drew's book, some geological features that I have still never managed to find even once without visiting a tourist beacon and a few asteroid bases. Yes they look cool but y'know - it's just a base. It doesn't add any new gameplay. Oh and obviously the beige thing is there even trashing part of the visual experience but that needs no further discussion here.

I'm only commenting on this here because of the 'over the coming months' part of the announcement. To me, that reads as 2.4 being delivered over a period that's going to last until what, Christmas at least (it's only 13 weeks after 2.4 launch...) and probably well into Q1 or even Q2 of 2018. FDev are also obviously going to have a massive crunch during Q2 of 2018 to get JP out of the door and understandably, I would expect that to be the company's primary focus around that time because it's going to make them a hell of a lot of money assuming they deliver well.

For me personally, 2.3 was total meh so it'a already a year since an update that did anything for me. 2.4 seems as expected to be primarily based around drip-fed story content. I'd just like something on the Horizon (pun intended) to actually get hopeful or excited about. Perhaps the easiest way I can put it is that although I have been waiting with anticipation to hear details about 2.4 the main reason for that was to get it out of the way, knowing we don't have any hope of getting a steer on any detail of what was intended for the future until after it.

Note - I totally understand that lots of players are thrilled about Thargoids and all the rest of it and I don't begrudge them their joy at all.
 
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So yet again, hoomans is stoopid.

The Tharg is minding its own business, harmlessly cruising away from the ships it's most certainly aware of. When they get too close, it greens up and tries to shut them down. Also essentially a harmless, defensive act. The ships have countermeasures, so they remain functional, and immediately launch missiles on a ship that hasn't done a thing to them. And the Tharg understandably reds up and blasts them.

We've found destroyed Fed ships oozing green gunk, but I reckon it's a good bet to assume that they stupidly started the fight, and couldn't finish it.

So we're probably about to go to war with a far more powerful alien race who hasn't offered us any aggression, simply because no one's figured out how to talk to them yet and we shoot what we don't understand.

I really really hope that 2.4 offers us avenues to work on understanding, and maybe even communicating with, the Thargs, and doesn't just lock us into a war based on human stupidity.
 
I do not understand why everyone talks about NPC crew.
there is no question in the video that this exists
He allegedly refers to the crew as "commanders" making it very clear that it is a crew of players
there is no symbol that indicates a wing on your screen.
there is no spoiler at all
 
He allegedly refers to the crew as "commanders" making it very clear that it is a crew of players
there is no symbol that indicates a wing on your screen.
there is no spoiler at all
Well, keep in mind that it's a cinematic, and not in-game video, so of course there's no wing symbols or any of the stuff that we'd expect to see in-game.
 
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So we're probably about to go to war with a far more powerful alien race who hasn't offered us any aggression, simply because no one's figured out how to talk to them yet and we shoot what we don't understand.

I really really hope that 2.4 offers us avenues to work on understanding, and maybe even communicating with, the Thargs, and doesn't just lock us into a war based on human stupidity.

And where in a gameplay environment does the word fun enter into your statement? This is a game, not real life. Nobody cares about diplomacy in this scenario. Stop trying to bring real life concepts into a game situation. We want entertainment. We need aliens to shoot, and the Thargoids have stepped up. Happy days.
 
And where in a gameplay environment does the word fun enter into your statement? This is a game, not real life. Nobody cares about diplomacy in this scenario. Stop trying to bring real life concepts into a game situation. We want entertainment. We need aliens to shoot, and the Thargoids have stepped up. Happy days.

I don't know about MadMunkee108, but I know that I want the Thargoids to be the shooty baddies. What I don't want is absolutely no justification for it. I would have preferred a better storyline as the reason for us to end up mortal enemies. People don't just shoot at something because it's different and they don't understand it...

...oh hold on. I just remembered this...

[video=youtube;qObUBkmOV4A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qObUBkmOV4A[/video]

...so maybe it isn't as far fetched as I thought. The Elite Galaxy are descendants of Americans
 
People don't just shoot at something because it's different and they don't understand it...

"Good afternoon sir, I am an American, would you mind stepping out of cover so I can get a better second look at you? What? No, it's been a perfectly acceptable tactic since we alleviated those pesky indians of their land. And don't get me started on some of our extinct animals, they were so strange looking that they had to go..."

*Cocks back the hammer of the shotgun*

"There we go, just a little more to the left so I don't hit the Popeye's Chicken you are standing in front of...."

Just think... that's just the mental giants south of the Mason-Dixon line... waving their confederate flags and whistling through 2 of their last 5 teeth. You know... the true face of America.
 
If we're going to start shooting, after all the snide remarks, I think taking aim at a redcoat or two would be easy enough. But could you come within 1km please? I'm older and my Marine Corps shooting skills aren't what they used to be. Thanks.

Lets get back to the game and stuff all the smart remarks into a dark place shall we? :)
 
And where in a gameplay environment does the word fun enter into your statement? This is a game, not real life. Nobody cares about diplomacy in this scenario. Stop trying to bring real life concepts into a game situation. We want entertainment. We need aliens to shoot, and the Thargoids have stepped up. Happy days.

One of my all-time favourite games is Balance of Power 1990 Edition. Zero fighting, all diplomacy, very entertaining.

I would suggest that plenty of people care about diplomacy in this scenario (one in which we're clearly out-gunned, out-manned, out-numbered). Stop trying to do the charge of the light brigade in a clearly hopeless situation. It's far more entertaining to play the long game via diplomacy, then subterfuge before finally unleashing a well-worked solution. Leaping into a situation you know nothing about with all guns blazing is a very American solution to a problem. Far better to approach it more rationally.
 
One of my all-time favourite games is Balance of Power 1990 Edition. Zero fighting, all diplomacy, very entertaining.

I would suggest that plenty of people care about diplomacy in this scenario (one in which we're clearly out-gunned, out-manned, out-numbered). Stop trying to do the charge of the light brigade in a clearly hopeless situation. It's far more entertaining to play the long game via diplomacy, then subterfuge before finally unleashing a well-worked solution. Leaping into a situation you know nothing about with all guns blazing is a very American solution to a problem. Far better to approach it more rationally.

Would have to agree; a diplomatic solution would be an interesting take instead of the atypical human reaction to pretty much everything it doesn't understand .. violence.

Edit: Not going to complain either way.. just think diplomacy would be something different from the norm.
 
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And where in a gameplay environment does the word fun enter into your statement? This is a game, not real life. Nobody cares about diplomacy in this scenario. Stop trying to bring real life concepts into a game situation. We want entertainment. We need aliens to shoot, and the Thargoids have stepped up. Happy days.
And there it is, the perennial gamer mistake: assuming your definition of fun is everyone's definition of fun. Personally I think some complex interaction would be far more fun than yet another thing to shoot.
 
Sandro said other interactions would be possible. Perhaps that means trading, or "seeking weapons" ? :)

Cool, that raises my hopes.

Just think... that's just the mental giants south of the Mason-Dixon line... waving their confederate flags and whistling through 2 of their last 5 teeth. You know... the true face of America.

If you're going to start a political tangent in a thread, the least you could do is not spout horridly ignorant, false, & divisive B.S. like this.
 
I don't know about MadMunkee108, but I know that I want the Thargoids to be the shooty baddies. What I don't want is absolutely no justification for it. I would have preferred a better storyline as the reason for us to end up mortal enemies. People don't just shoot at something because it's different and they don't understand it...

...oh hold on. I just remembered this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qObUBkmOV4A

...so maybe it isn't as far fetched as I thought. The Elite Galaxy are descendants of Americans

Some of the wonderful people of Florida are from another planet, you'll have to excuse their behavior. They are not representative of the entirety of America. Of course, I think we all have sections of even our local communities that seem to have come from another time or place so it's probably not fair to generalize.
 
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