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If it's more non participation events (cutscenes or aftermaths) then this game is over for me and I suspect many others.
The latest non event being the peace envoy "Kingfisher" mega ship!
It deploys and of course gets blown up ALL of camera, that's just pathetic for a modern game.
 
Good morning to you and the rest of your team!
Hope you've slept well and are ready for what's coming on this couple of days, and beyond!
Hope everything goes smoothly and we all have a good time with this! o7
 
Oh I'd never go materials prospecting in Oddy - In fact I spent over 20 min in Odyssey this afternoon after making that video just to film a comparison - couldn't find a single fumarole or geyser - not one - complete nightmare so gave up.
Out of curiosity, what are you doing now that Horizons progress no longer transfers? I'm so demoralized with trying to find materials that I'm tempted to just quit trying altogether. It took me 18+ hours of game time just to find a single source for a grade 4 mat I was looking for. Most of the times I check planets, I spend 15-30 minutes scouring the surface in both my ship and SRV only to find nothing even though the whole planet is blue in the DSS.

Without simply telling me "X system/planet has all the resources" (I'm serious about this--I don't like being handed someone else's answer when I'm trying to learn a method of doing things myself), how are other CMDRs dealing with this?
 
Out of curiosity, what are you doing now that Horizons progress no longer transfers? I'm so demoralized with trying to find materials that I'm tempted to just quit trying altogether. It took me 18+ hours of game time just to find a single source for a grade 4 mat I was looking for. Most of the times I check planets, I spend 15-30 minutes scouring the surface in both my ship and SRV only to find nothing even though the whole planet is blue in the DSS.

Without simply telling me "X system/planet has all the resources" (I'm serious about this--I don't like being handed someone else's answer when I'm trying to learn a method of doing things myself), how are other CMDRs dealing with this?
After 7,000 hours plus since 14 DEC 2014, I think my instinct would be to stop gathering, until Frontier fixes it. If they don't fix material gathering, engineering will stop.
 
After 7,000 hours plus since 14 DEC 2014, I think my instinct would be to stop gathering, until Frontier fixes it. If they don't fix material gathering, engineering will stop.
Yeah, I honestly don't even see how it's possible right now. I've spent the last 8 hours searching for grade 4 raw materials and it took me 6 of those hours to even find something that could reasonably be called a geological site (i.e. a decent-sized cluster of vents and fumaroles)

There's nothing to fix.
Perhaps you'd care to share with us some of your strategies for finding grade 4 raw materials then? It took me 4 days of intense searching to find even a single needle crystal. I've both driven and flown hundreds of thousands of km on and over planets that are supposed to have them, and I've found almost nothing. If there is something I'm doing completely wrong here, I would love to know, but I really don't see a solution short of looking at some guide saying "Go to x, y, or z planet/system because it has x, y or z elements in abundance". If element deposits really are as rare as my recent experience has shown them to be, then I'd say this absolutely needs fixing.
 
it’s fairly quick zooming around the surface of volcanic planets, zapping material deposits off fumeroles, vents, geysers (ok they take a bit of time). I’ve not specifically hunted rare materials but I’m sure one could trade up.
 
Brain tree bodies, along with the shard ones, work fine for me.
But they are a way out from the bubble. (or Colonia even)
I've seen how effective the brain trees can be, but sadly I've only found one planet with them and it did not contain the element(s) I'm searching for. My eyes have been and continue to be on the lookout for that though. I'm trying to make do with geological features in the meantime
 
Perhaps you'd care to share with us some of your strategies for finding grade 4 raw materials then?

I have, multiple times on multiple threads, with screenshots and detailed explanations and quite frankly I am over it because it's the same few people coming back over and over again complaining, and I can only attribute that to them simply not learning the new way of doing things and wanting thier old pointy arrow system, mats on a plate back!

I've spent the last 8 hours searching for grade 4 raw materials and it took me 6 of those hours to even find something that could reasonably be called a geological site (i.e. a decent-sized cluster of vents and fumaroles)

Recent one I dropped onto the other day;

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Fumaroles, Brain Trees and lava spouts galore a month or so ago!

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They are there once you learn what to look for. But I've been over this many times, tired of it and not going to repeat it.
 
Yeah, I honestly don't even see how it's possible right now. I've spent the last 8 hours searching for grade 4 raw materials and it took me 6 of those hours to even find something that could reasonably be called a geological site (i.e. a decent-sized cluster of vents and fumaroles)


Perhaps you'd care to share with us some of your strategies for finding grade 4 raw materials then? It took me 4 days of intense searching to find even a single needle crystal. I've both driven and flown hundreds of thousands of km on and over planets that are supposed to have them, and I've found almost nothing. If there is something I'm doing completely wrong here, I would love to know, but I really don't see a solution short of looking at some guide saying "Go to x, y, or z planet/system because it has x, y or z elements in abundance". If element deposits really are as rare as my recent experience has shown them to be, then I'd say this absolutely needs fixing.
RAW in EDO

Farming Crystalline Shards

Mine for all the low level stuff and trade out all your Grade 5s if you have any.
Fly out to the following places, you will need a minimum of 2 SRVs for a full run.
There may be fleet carriers in the system that will let you rearm/repair but don’t count on it (you can of course Synth your SRV but kinda defeats the objective of farming)
Scan each planet (you will need a DSS fitted) and look for Crystalline Shard patches, they are normally on hilly, mountain areas if you’re not familiar with the way the new EDO filter works.

Search for a large group of Shards (easier to see with Night Vision on) this will get all you need with only maybe 1 relog.

HIP 36601 - C 1 a - Polonium

HIP 36601 - C 1 d - Ruthenium

HIP 36601 - C 3 b - Tellurium

HIP 36601 - C 5 a - Technetium

HIP 36601 - C 4 A - Selenium - (Not crystal shards)
(Actually, better using LHS 417 9 E A in the bubble - look for Crystalline Fragments)

Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 7 b - Ruthenium

Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 a - Yttrium

Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 c - Antimony



Once your full of Grade 5s go back (yes a long trek) and trade out again.
In future when you’re all stocked up you can trade everything so that you only need to farm maybe 2 G5s in which case HIP 36601 - C 1 a – Polonium and HIP 36601 - C 3 b – Tellurium are by far the easiest.


Pro’s
Will take only a couple of hours to fill all G5’s

Con’s
1600LY from Sol
Most planets are 150K Ls from jump in
Closest material trader – HAHAHA
Advice from someone who does this a lot

Take a fleet carrier!!

Its not Rocket surgery

O7
 
how are other CMDRs dealing with this?
I just drive around planets. Like in era, where main source of raws were outcrops.
But now I have chance for finding big geo tields (what isn't uncommon).

2 tips, and 1 thing which I seen yesterday:
-some guardian structures now are very close to brain trees, geysers, or both
-crystalline shards still exist, and people already found good fields. You just need coordinates.
-one of the easiest geospot which I found in last weeks was on...moon moon, which was very close to other body (2000km I think?)
 
Out of curiosity, what are you doing now that Horizons progress no longer transfers? I....

Well obviously my previous position is now moot since stuff garnered in legacy is not shared with live.

So far I have not found myself in the position of HAVING to go find some raw materials but if I did then I'd just do one of two things - go farm at the Bug Killer and trade (Antimony, Tellurium and Ruthenium there) or just pick a body and go buggy-riding. While I was topping-up an alt account's credits by scanning bios I was also following the SRV's signals for MMs and Mesos - that produced a lot of stuff and of course going from planet to planet for the bios means that the materials from surface prospecting varies.

I think people have mentioned the original bios such as brain trees and crystalline shards which I have to admit not visiting in years. I know geo sites work OK now, I did check last week that materials were being released and were of the correct type, it is just a pain that there are no POI any more.

So there you go, that is my deux centimes - we are stuck with the awful terrain at certain places but otherwise things now seem to work, albeit differently.
 
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I have, multiple times on multiple threads, with screenshots and detailed explanations and quite frankly I am over it because it's the same few people coming back over and over again complaining, and I can only attribute that to them simply not learning the new way of doing things and wanting thier old pointy arrow system, mats on a plate back!
Well forgive me for being kind of new here, but for what it's worth, I've read dozens of threads on this, and most of the info I'm finding seems to be outdated. If this is your stance, then alright I guess, but it seems kind of weird to chime in in the first place then if you're not gonna drop specifics. Just saying "I've said before how to do it" as if everyone has seen and read your posts isn't very helpful imo.

They are there once you learn what to look for. But I've been over this many times, tired of it and not going to repeat it.
Knowing what to look for is the information I'm looking for. Your screenshots are neat and whatnot, but I can take screenshots of geological features I've found too. I'm wondering how to find them in the first place when the entire planet is blue. I've tried mountainous regions, flat regions, craters, planets of different types, planets with different numbers of geological features (2 vs 3 for example), going to areas of different shades of blue, etc, and I've found no patterns whatsoever that will help me actually locate these sites reliably upon descending towards a planet's surface. How do you find this stuff without having to spend literal hours or days? That's the info I'm after.

The way I see it, you can cover less ground but see more features in the SRV, or cover more ground and see fewer features in the ship. Neither are ideal, and I haven't found either method to be of any use. So if there's a trick, as you are implying, I'd love to hear it! But if it really is just a time sink combined with luck, then perhaps FD should rethink this system. I'm not saying they have to go back to how it was in Horizons, but they could certainly make changes to improve upon the way it is right now. Maybe the ship should have a wave scanner when you get within 2km of the surface. Maybe the heat map should be actually useful. It doesn't have to be a debate between the Horizons version and this version. There is a middle ground.
 
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