Engineering and Pre-Built Ships

Fdev if your listening. I would pay $25 for new ships packs that are unengineered (Panther Clipper) I'd pay $50 for an expansion that had base building. I'd pay $10 for mission packages with story line. I'd pay 35M for a real life Mamba :) Ship not the snake!
 
Well... I'd like to build a custom ship on the store [i.e. like a car dealer], choosing the ship kit, paint job etc with full G5 engineering and pay let's say up to 100 bucks for it.

Min price is for G3 max price is for G5:

5-25 bucks for small ships
25-50 bucks for medium ships (including the Clipper)
50-75 bucks for large excluding the following
75-100 bucks for Cutter/Corvette

Why not... 🤷‍♂️ from my perspective the time I'm going to spend to obtain the same is worth much more than those few bucks. 👈

They could even do a bigger leap... buy exploraconda for 75 bucks and double income/XP from exploration, buy PvE Corvette and double income in bounties/bonds... etc

Or adding "buckets of wonders" -> materials in exchange of ARX [take my money for RAW lol]

Isn't the same many game developers are already doing? (Wargaming?)
 
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Well... I'd like to build a custom ship on the store [i.e. like a car dealer], choosing the ship kit, paint job etc with full G5 engineering and pay let's say up to 100 bucks for it.

Min price is for G3 max price is for G5:

5-25 bucks for small ships
25-50 bucks for medium ships (including the Clipper)
50-75 bucks for large excluding the following
75-100 bucks for Cutter/Corvette

Why not... 🤷‍♂️ from my perspective the time I'm going to spend to obtain the same is worth much more than those few bucks. 👈

They could even do a bigger leap... buy exploraconda for 75 bucks and double income/XP from exploration, buy PvE Corvette and double income in bounties/bonds... etc

Or adding "buckets of wonders" -> materials in exchange of ARX [take my money for RAW lol]

Isn't the same many game developers are already doing? (Wargaming?)
better yet, how about +10% influence in a system per 10k arx per 1 billion population ? :D
 
My guess the people screaming "pay to win" don't even play anymore. I want Fdev to make money. It's in our best interest if they make money. Nothing they have done so far is pay to win. It's more pay to lose than anything because the ship builds so far are terrible. But if people buy them and find a use for them it's a win for Fdev. Do I want them to have a fully kitted grade 5 FDL for sale? No. Will it be pay to win if they do? No. Just because you bought a grade 5 FDL doesn't mean you can fly it. You want to fly around in solo with your cool FDL and murder hobo pirates. Why do I care. You want to fly in open and murder hobo other commanders. Your cool FDL isn't going to save you.
 
My guess the people screaming "pay to win" don't even play anymore. I want Fdev to make money. It's in our best interest if they make money. Nothing they have done so far is pay to win. It's more pay to lose than anything because the ship builds so far are terrible.
I want FDev to make good games. It is in our best interest if they make good games. Yeah that's sometimes tied to money, but don't lose sight of what's important. Just giving FDev money for 10 year old content with a price hike doesn't motivate them to do better really.

Would it be better or worse if the P2W ships were actually good/overpowered? For the sake of the arguments people are having around it it wouldn't really matter much. Everything comes in degrees and wanting to have none of it is a valid choice.
 
Min price is for G3 max price is for G5:

5-25 bucks for small ships
25-50 bucks for medium ships (including the Clipper)
50-75 bucks for large excluding the following
75-100 bucks for Cutter/Corvette

If min price for G3 is 75$ then the price for G5 should be like 750$ and I'm being really generous with the ratio between materials used for G3 and G5 engineerings

But i trust them not to go there and sell fully engineered boats
 
Yes, they should sell upgrade kits for the prebuilts for each grade so they can pentuple-dip.

Well, if they want to go there, they can surely do it - after all, Scam Citizen paved a nice and shiny road to that realm
They may need to steal some of the SC store people to learn how to do it properly tho - FDev are really noobs in this regard
 
Yes, but that meant you were loosing your engineered modules. Which isn't the case for arx ships.

And this is the exploit.

Hence I said it's very important for fdev not to include heavily engineered ships in the store.
I think people haven't even realized the biggest exploit yet. With a prebuilt ship, you won't have to pay for fuel anymore - simply sell your ship and deploy a new one.

Depending on how much one plays, somebody could probably save 10k credits a year!!! And then there's hull integrity too! :ROFLMAO:
 
If min price for G3 is 75$ then the price for G5 should be like 750$ and I'm being really generous with the ratio between materials used for G3 and G5 engineerings
The other way around, why should I pay for G3 when can have G5 for little more? >>> tons of G5 ships sold >>> win/win!
 
I think people haven't even realized the biggest exploit yet. With a prebuilt ship, you won't have to pay for fuel anymore - simply sell your ship and deploy a new one.
The actual exploit would be with using premium ammo and self-destructing your ship whenever you need to rearm (you would have to engineer your prebuilt bits for that to get the most out of it). Premium ammo resets to default when you rearm but respawning doesn't count as rearming even though it fills your ammo back up.
 
where can i find the specs on the pre built ships? What equipment? What range? etc...
Specs you can find by going into the in-game shop interface
(log out to) Main Menu -> Game Extras -> Pre-Built Ships -> Select Ship -> Toggle Details [1]

Gives you some baseline stats plus the loadout contents which you can (Python 2 aside) stick into Coriolis or EDSY.

[1] This button is right next to the purchase button, so watch where you're clicking!
 
The Chieftain has a beam laser which is useful only for the Thermal Vent experimental, which it doesn't come with. I think that should be in the prebuilt.

Yep looks like someone Who's new needs to sell 5 ton of "weapons" at 5 Different stations with Black-markets and then visit the dweller ....
 
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