Yeah, you could obviously tell that from my outlandish claim to be able to implement external views and a toggle for orbit lines. My god any programmer would know such a feat to be impossibly difficult....
External View [A definitive discussion]
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Yeah, you could obviously tell that from my outlandish claim to be able to implement external views and a toggle for orbit lines. My god any programmer would know such a feat to be impossibly difficult....
They discussed vanity type external views, but there'll never be a 3rd person flight mode. That's just not their direction and in a recent interview just last week, Braben confirmed that again.
I honestly believe 3rd person gaming is about to become an outdated concept in the next few years as VR becomes prevalent, which is of course a first person experience. I think 3rd person gaming will eventually be a retro throwback like 2D platforming/side scrolling is now.
I honestly believe 3rd person gaming is about to become an outdated concept in the next few years as VR becomes prevalent, which is of course a first person experience. I think 3rd person gaming will eventually be a retro throwback like 2D platforming/side scrolling is now.
Ok, so the game is released and there are no external views. This is just my opinion, but I'm going to call it as I see it.
Dear Frontier Developments,
You are guilty of false advertising. You sell your game with beautiful exterior shots of the spacecraft and then you also sell paint jobs for the craft for real money. So when a newcomer realises there are no external views, he/she could very well feel conned.
Where I live we have this thing called "aivopieru". This forum won't let me write the direct translation, but the first part means "brain" and the other means "passing wind". Definition: An idea or thought which has no sense and can not withstand closer scrutiny.
I don't care if you implement some kind of awkward drone system in the future for cameras. People are paying real money for this game and the skins right now.
I'm also sad for all the hard working graphics artists and modelers at FD. How must they feel that their creations, the spaceships, can not be seen in their full glory? They deserve better.
Dear Frontier Developments,
You are guilty of false advertising. You sell your game with beautiful exterior shots of the spacecraft and then you also sell paint jobs for the craft for real money. So when a newcomer realises there are no external views, he/she could very well feel conned.
Where I live we have this thing called "aivopieru". This forum won't let me write the direct translation, but the first part means "brain" and the other means "passing wind". Definition: An idea or thought which has no sense and can not withstand closer scrutiny.
I don't care if you implement some kind of awkward drone system in the future for cameras. People are paying real money for this game and the skins right now.
I'm also sad for all the hard working graphics artists and modelers at FD. How must they feel that their creations, the spaceships, can not be seen in their full glory? They deserve better.
I do! Gimped external cameras are virtually as bad as no external cameras. Just give us plain old tried and true external cameras that exist for me the player not me the in game character (or call them computer generated projections if you must) but no faffing about launching drones, losing control over the space craft, inability to use in super cruise or hyperspace or out of combat only. IF you are a slave to the PvP balance queens then go ahead and make it solo only.
It's not about that. I couldn't care less about a 3rd person flight mode. None of the promotional videos for ED show a 3rd person flight mode, BUT they show plenty of awesome external camera footage, which I want to be able to use in my game. Basically I expect that I can do in the game what they advertise in every single promo video!
Outfitting maybe, but other than that it would be an immersion breaker.
One possibility to allow external views would be the notion of having the pilot go E.V.A. and give you those views. At any reasonable time: docked, floating in space, but not supercruise or hyperspace, you could pop your pilot out the hatch to zoom around the ship giving you whatever external view you want, and while doing so the ship has no control whatsoever because the pilot's not in the ship. You wouldn't actually see your pilot, it would just be a conceit to explain the loss of ship control while in an external camera.
A bit of info from another (now archived) thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=73528&p=1246578&viewfull=1#post1246578
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=73528&p=1246578&viewfull=1#post1246578
Ben Parry said:
It would only break the immersion if you'd use it, which no one would force you to.
By the way, Saving and Exiting the game is immersion breaking as well. You should keep running the game 24/7 for real immersion..
I demand a floating camera so I can see myself in my cool space suit while I'm EVA looking at my cool ship.
Another possibility I think could be cool for getting 'space-scapes' would be for a camera to be a hardpoint mount. Purchase it in a space station, mount it to a hardpoint, and be able to control it from inside the ship. Wouldn't be much good for taking photographs of *your* ship, but it could be killer for capturing the galaxy, space stations, other people's ships, etc. Maybe the photographs could complement cartography in exploration, as well. Or a mission could send you off to try to capture a rumored location...combine it with stealth, and maybe it would be a military intel gathering mission.
Just make sure you're not accelerating! A certain Mr.Kerman found that out the hard way.
Never getting a look at your ship with paint scheme you paid for is an immersion breaker, imho
Yep, I'm curious how long it will take the newcomers to realize and start posting...
lol, Yes,poor ol' Jebadiah Kerman I actually made him cling onto the capsule during re-entry, just because he could ..... I don't think he was too impressed with me though
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That's "EXACTLY" what I am talking about, I don't want 3rd person, or a kill cam, or a padlock, or any way to control the ship in 3rd person. - just a view that you can SEE the awesome work that has gone into the ships
not sure if you've seen these comments from the devs, so here they are;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12464&p=673649&viewfull=1#post673649
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12464&p=673649&viewfull=1#post673649
If that's suggesting there's some sort of technical reason it cannot be done, I can't fathom that?
The only technical issues might be inside stations, clipping and all. Easily fixed by preventing use of the external cameras inside the no-fire zone, especially if they decided to go with the camera-drones solution. Not to mention that they could give us free rotation camera while docked and in the outfitting scren. Or just add a "showroom" camera. But no, right? That would break immersion, right? What pilot would EVER get out of his/her ship to look at it from the outside while docked in the hangar. That's just impossible, not included in the vision, and technically unfeasible.
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