Pointless post to allow the OP pious indignity over something he can do nothing about despite showing more knowledge of the exploitable aspects of the game than would seem normal. Hmmmmm.
Frontier - Enough Shoulder Shrugging - Get Tough on Exploits and Exploiters.
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Seriously? - no, again, I read the forums, reddit and watch YouTube vids, and please explain to me why, if, (as you are insinuating), I was exploiting, would I want Frontier to get tougher on it?
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You can take that as an insinuation if you wish , do you have anything to admit ? Can you honestly say that you haven't used any method to gain an advantage ? Not even snuck out of the queue to get into a space station that few moments quicker? Its a game , people play it , its not real life, its not perfect, its not a substitute for real life ( although with the seriousness that some people seem to apply to it on these forums from time to time I do wonder). Live and let live , people have purchased a copy of the game and are free to play it as they see fit , who are you to tell them otherwise? equally , who are you to tell the devs how to run their business, are you a business guru of some type? Or just another keyboard warrior not happy unless it's all done your way ? You are of course welcome to your opinion , as equally others are welcome to laugh at it.
What course?
Jesus, please read the thread if you want to participate, all those points have been answered.
No, I haven't exploited this game or any other I can remember in any way, shape or form, I am proud of that, I've been here since beta and I have 205 million credits in the bank, an A rated Python and an A rated Cobra MK III. I am not 'telling' one single person 'how to play the game', I am asking, note that 'asking', not telling, the developer to get tougher on exploits, loopholes and bugs that are in danger of unbalancing the game in many, many ways, from the BGS to piracy, from credits to missions and much more in between.
And keyboard warrior you say, no, just an opinion on a subject that interests me on a discussion board, nothing more, nothing less. The only plausible reason that I can think of why anyone, and I mean ANYONE, would/could be against exploits getting fixed in Elite Dangerous, or against someone asking for exploits to be fixed in Elite Dangerous is because they have a vested interest, i.e they are partaking in them, turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they?
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As far as I am aware Turkeys have never been emancipated, nor do they show any desire for self determination, but you may know better than I .
Valuable discourse instead of subtle trolling.
My point exactly.
Virtual +1, indeed and cheers Deadspin.
I have read all of this thread and had done so before my first comment. It is laughable , as you also recognized early in the conversation when you mentioned the frequent appearance of the OPs argument. I don't feel the need to cover ground already stated by other contributors to this post , the definitions of cheating, using advantage, and exploit have already been covered by others. I would have loved to have employed logic based reasoning, I am more than capable of so doing , but in the face of such intransigent , set, and immovable opinion as is so often displayed by kneejerk posts such as this , I find it easier not to waste my time doing . If FD wants to close the loopholes that give players advantages , ( though I struggle to see any advantage in many of the described exploits) then I am sure they would either have done so by now , or will do when they see fit , regardless of anything said on here, or any one individuals opinion as to how they should run their business.
To describe a contributor as a troll, simply because you disagree with what they say or how they say it, really reminds my exactly what a void of logic these forum tend to become.
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One of my big gripes with FD is the lax attitude towards this sort of stuff. I think it completely undermines the integrity of the game and any sort of achievement. What does it say to people who don't exploit or cheat? Eventually even the best of us think sod it, and do it themselves. The result is a bit of a rat ship.
Its pretty obvious at this stage that anyone will many billions as been at it - and will a multi billion credit bank balance what jeopardy is there in game? Its made the sense of any ship loss meaningless.
Without wanting to go into it I notice combat logging is still going on..
I also think it allows folks to play in a way without having to consider any consequence. I really wish the developers would have considered that before turning a blind eye.
Its too late now though, they cant exactly take everyones credits off them. Ironically vast wealth in a short time seems to make players lose interest in the game. Its a bit of a derp if you ask me. Yeah really disappointed with FD over this.
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In total agreement with you here Cosmos, (makes a nice change!
), virtually everything that should be an achievement in this game has been rendered meaningless as you say. You are more than welcome to bring up combat logging, (was mentioned earlier in the thread), there is sooo much collateral damage from Frontier's attitude it is unreal, PVP piracy and bounty hunting being right at the top of the list with the BGS, missions and more.While I agree it is too late to roll back those who exploited long ago I do hope, (probably in vain but hey), that Frontier could start to adopt the, in my opinion, right approach from here on in.
Lets have a quick simple look at how this could be handled for mode swapping...
CMDR 1 starts game in open - Creates instance A - Looks at mission board - Insert check for CMDR1 mission list - If no list found create mission list CMDR1A.
CMDR 1 logs out and re-enters in solo mode - Looks at mission board - Insert check for CMDR1 mission list - If list exist then show CMDR1A.
CMDR 1 leaves system - Check for CMDR1A mission list - if exists then delete.
Obviously the above is very simplified and would need at least one other variable to be taken into account (Transaction server) but it is not impossible if planned correctly and implemented by competent developers.
I agree that the number of missions available and of which type would solve a fair bit of the issue - perhaps the ability to select the type of mission you would like - Trade, Combat, Mining, Other and of course Uber driver.
I described you as a troll due to the method you used, the way you wrote your replies out, the tone they had.
Funny how you were totally comfortable with it though when you thought it was me and not you that Deadspin was referring to, thus your reply then :-
One galaxy-wide update to all mission boards once a day. Problem solved.
Of course, the average play time will drop to a few hours at most for non-explorers and traders, it would take around 6.3 years to make enough rank in any navy to get the first system unlock, and we can pretty much forget ever seeing another Corvette or Cutter, but hey, at least no one will have to loose any sleep over what other people are doing again, and we won't have any more threads about how some other game I've never heard of does things so much better that we wonder why folks like the OP even bother to come here in the first place again.
Of course, the average play time will drop to a few hours at most for non-explorers and traders, it would take around 6.3 years to make enough rank in any navy to get the first system unlock, and we can pretty much forget ever seeing another Corvette or Cutter, but hey, at least no one will have to loose any sleep over what other people are doing again, and we won't have any more threads about how some other game I've never heard of does things so much better that we wonder why folks like the OP even bother to come here in the first place again.
Or, you know, revamp the mission system, lots more missions on the boards for all play styles in all modes, remove the need as well as the desire to switch modes, but hey why do that when we can erect an enormous man made of straw instead.
EDIT - Gawd, I did it again, sorry Deadspin
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