Frontier Store won't allow ARX purchase using PayPal!!!!!!

CMDR Daiyus

CMDR Daiyus
Highlander71 said:
Not everyone is from the UK and not every bank gives out debitcards that are Visa/Mastercard compatible. Mine gives out Maestro cards and is planning to start with Mastercards somewhere in 2025.

Paypal is the defacto standard for online payments. Frontier should just comply with what everyone is used to.
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Sure they're not, hence the "don't know where you're from" and "If you have one"; no disrespect was meant on that front, I was merely trying to establish information and offer a potentially UK biased option at the same time, just in case. If you've got a Maestro enabled card the store does accept that as far as I'm aware:
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While PayPal was a widespread option, and I do still use it where available, it's ultimately Frontier's decision which payment providers they work with. As a UK based company, Frontier are well within their rights to have reservations when dealing with PayPal given their standing within UK finance and law. Many UK based services have removed PayPal as a payment option following these changes. As frustrating as that is for users that prefer PayPal, it's an understandable stance for Frontier to take.
 
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SledgeFox

SledgeFox
Well thanks to all who try to help. I have no card and don't intend to. PayPal worked fine with all my Frontier purchases since Beta of Elite.
So, no purchases for me. If anyone would be kind enough to give me a link how to buy ARX with Steam, I may look into it.
Thank you and have a wonderful christmas and a healthy and happy new year!
 

Highlander71

Highlander71
Koma Pahu said:
Visa was the defacto debit card a decade ago, when Mastercard moved into the debit card space, yet your bank doesn’t use them. Why should Frontier pay extra transaction fees because a few banks don’t issue the industry standard?

It’s the same reason you couldn’t use Amex on most UK card machines for most of the time I’ve had one.
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Why? To sell ARX.

Visa the defacto debit card? Perhaps where you live. Not everywhere.

Just because a solution is comfortable to you, it doesn't mean the rest of the world must follow suit. It seems to me like you're pretending Paypal isn't a standard at all because you don't require it.

It's clear to me that Frontier are too UK centric in this regard.
 

mtfatboy3006

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SledgeFox said:
Well thanks to all who try to help. I have no card and don't intend to. PayPal worked fine with all my Frontier purchases since Beta of Elite.
So, no purchases for me. If anyone would be kind enough to give me a link how to buy ARX with Steam, I may look into it.
Thank you and have a wonderful christmas and a healthy and happy new year!
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Link
ETA but only works if you're playing the game through Steam.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Cmdr Esteban said:
I’m genuinely curious as I don’t think I’ve come across someone without a card before (at least not in many years).
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Unrelated... but...
While in a phone store, I saw someone come in with a predicament. Their phone was broken, and they wanted a new phone urgently. They had bills due that day and their credit card was stored on their phone. To purchase the phone, they needed a credit card... to provide that they needed a working phone.

Oops!
 

SledgeFox

SledgeFox
Cmdr Esteban said:
So do you pay cash at in-person points of sale? And if so how do withdraw that cash from an ATM without a card? Or is your bank account just directly linked to your chosen phone payment method? I’m genuinely curious as I don’t think I’ve come across someone without a card before (at least not in many years).
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I always pay cash. I have a card from my bank which works only with my bank and nowhere else, so I pay 0 € for that card.
Cash is freedom and for everything else like Steam or FrontierStore in the past I use PayPal.

Thank you mtfatboy3006 and Kimosabe_X for your help. I'll try your hints, would be nice if I can support Frontier. Thank you and have a great day!
 

Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
Koma Pahu said:
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Edit: I’ve just checked, you can also use a PayPal Debit card…
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I had never heard of those and a quick goggil produced some helpful info, a few of which were:

There are no annual or monthly fees to own the card
You can get a digital card instantly when you sign up
You can request a physical card by going to your Accounts, choosing your PayPal Debit Card, choosing Manage, and then choosing “Request a physical card”

So maybe that is something to consider @SledgeFox - ¯\(ツ)/¯


EDIT - N.B. ON FURTHER ENQUIRING, DISCOVERED PAYPAL DOES NOT OFFER A PERSONAL DEBIT CARD IN THE UK... sorry
 
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Cmdr Esteban

Cmdr Esteban
Jmanis said:
Unrelated... but...
While in a phone store, I saw someone come in with a predicament. Their phone was broken, and they wanted a new phone urgently. They had bills due that day and their credit card was stored on their phone. To purchase the phone, they needed a credit card... to provide that they needed a working phone.

Oops!
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😆 There’s a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza…
 

amigacooke

amigacooke
Frankymole said:
Why don't FDev move into the 21st Century and accept cryptocurrency?
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Good idea, that way they could run off with the funds and no-one could do anything about it*

* I am not suggesting that Frontier would do so, but unregulated exchange methods are not a noose I’m putting my head into. Even worse than ARX.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
amigacooke said:
Good idea, that way they could run off with the funds and no-one could do anything about it*

* I am not suggesting that Frontier would do so, but unregulated exchange methods are not a noose I’m putting my head into. Even worse than ARX.
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How could they "run off" with Bitcoins etc any easier than they can run off with any other currency used in a digital transaction to buy ARX?
 

amigacooke

amigacooke
Frankymole said:
How could they "run off" with Bitcoins etc any easier than they can run off with any other currency used in a digital transaction to buy ARX?
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The question is how could you get it back if it’s unregulated?

FCA finds crypto ownership continues to rise as it delivers plans to regulate crypto

According to the FCA's latest research on consumer attitudes and behaviours towards crypto, 12% of UK adults now own crypto, up from 10% in previous findings.
www.fca.org.uk www.fca.org.uk
 
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Alaska Sædelære

Alaska Sædelære
Gosh, if people only had the slightest idea of money and economics. One can't even blame them, it's not taught in school. And there are theories about why that is.

Why do you think that our "legal tender" fiat currencies keep getting devalued? Because otherwise nobody with a braincell would spend more of it than absolutely necessary, and our dear leaders wouldn't like that. With currencies rising in value because of their natural or artificial scarcity, like precious metal, cryptos (in the current trend), etc, it is economically unwise to spend them on personal consumption. The times when early Bitcoin adopters happily paid for a coffee with it are long gone. In the 21st century, this stuff is the exact opposite of what some of the "modernity!" shouters think.

With that out of the way, Paypal. To call this a standard, even as defacto because many are still using it, is equally naive. There are plenty of reasons to eschew it especially for vendors, and the intertubes are abundant with knowledge wherefore. So we won't discuss this here.

However, not having any fallback method for payments is a problem. There should be an alternative to cards, even if it's Paypal. I had this myself with the initial purchase of the game. The store would not accept my card, with no useful information given, not even a "denied" message. Neither Frontier nor the bank were able or willing to give me any hints what the damn problem was. At the time, Paypal was the only other thing that worked. Strangely, this is no longer so for me but no sign of a reason was ever detectable. Sometimes stuff just doesn't work and ignoring that as a company depending on customers is doing damage.
 

Ni

N
Set up another account that has no card
Transfer your money into that. Then top up your main account as and when. If your card gets nicked or cloned then you won't lose much, if any.
 
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