There were a few HD stars that I input to the galaxy map and it shot off range for a moment and bounced back, above and below the galaxy, I think 3 or 4 maybe, and like HD 80488 there were a couple in range but to far from anything else to actually enable a jump to.
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There were a few HD stars that I input to the galaxy map and it shot off range for a moment and bounced back, above and below the galaxy, I think 3 or 4 maybe, and like HD 80488 there were a couple in range but to far from anything else to actually enable a jump to.
I remember getting distances for some for EDSM where you basically had to record the search in the galmap so you could then find the frame with the distance in.
This is a very naff attempt at drawing the slices in proportion - it seems to be unreasonably difficult to draw a pie chart anticlockwise, unless there's One Weird Trick I'm missing. 
Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/OWPf3Tx
Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/OWPf3Tx
Time to dust off the exploration Eagle again.
13D is currently sitting in the bubble, so give me a slice and I'll send him on his way
Cool, I'll put you in for slice 10 (rows 96090 to 96590 on the sheet.)
I'll take 24 please
Welcome to the HIP hunt - 32 it is
The Vxxxx stars are probably mostly in edsm - unfortunately I haven't yet been able to work out how to cross-check between HIP and GCVS, my Vizier-fu failed me. Need to look at that again, it would be nice to include those automatically. If anyone knows how to do the cross matching between catalogs where it's not already part of the data please let me know!
(ah - got it now I think, easier than I thought - will take a little while to integrate it)
Right - first part of the cross matching done, I've updated the spreadsheet to include each star's GCVS designation - the next part (translating those into system names as Elite uses them) will take a little more work.
...and done, quite happy with that.
(ah - got it now I think, easier than I thought - will take a little while to integrate it)
Right - first part of the cross matching done, I've updated the spreadsheet to include each star's GCVS designation - the next part (translating those into system names as Elite uses them) will take a little more work.
...and done, quite happy with that.
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I have also found at least four system out of range of the galaxy map, and also found a few that don't appear to exist, but note that most system respond to both the HIP and HD designation, that is you can search on both star numbers and still end up at the same star, so it appears they have linked the stars to the cat numbers relationaly so that the stars have both designation although only one shows on the system, some show as HIP, some show as HD and I am sure there are others. Strangely I found GL 452.2 is actually HIP 58057 and HD 103437 and will respond to searches on any of those designations. I can understand some stars with names that have been changed to something that relates to that area, the Colonia systems for instance, having multiple designations, they still keep the original name in the background as a searchable string, MOT in the Witch Head area is also HIP 13928, but why GL 452.2, is that also a star catalogue number?
I wonder how they decided which ones to use? That must have been an interesting discussion because they are all over the place!
Hmm, I seem to have ended up with a field in my reply and can't get rid of it, oh well.
Ah a quick note, it is indeed a catalogue number;
So it was originally named as part of the Gliese Catalouge and later also found in the HIP catalogue, interesting! Now the problem here is it's already in EDSM under GL 452.2, but isn't present, naturally, when I searched on it's HIP number, so we can mark that one as done.
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A couple of findings after a preliminary mapping of all systems in slice 32:
Out of the 500 systems there's 80 that are not in the game, or will need manual pinpointing.
From the remaining, 55 appear unreachable. Some because of extreme >5000 Ys ( 10 of them ). And some are <5000 ly from the plane, but too far from other systems.
The rest are reachable, either requiring a carrier (~20), a maxxed out conda (8), or a regular exploration ship.
Other curiosities:
-HIP 35793 appears to be pointing to VY Canis Majoris. That would make it the second HIP address to do so. Not sure if this is an Fdev data issue or a glitch in the fuzzy search algorithm.
-HIP 35213 points to an invisible system.
-A good number of undiscovered EDSM HIPs are already discovered in-game.Pre-EDSM dicoveries maybe?
Out of the 500 systems there's 80 that are not in the game, or will need manual pinpointing.
From the remaining, 55 appear unreachable. Some because of extreme >5000 Ys ( 10 of them ). And some are <5000 ly from the plane, but too far from other systems.
The rest are reachable, either requiring a carrier (~20), a maxxed out conda (8), or a regular exploration ship.
Other curiosities:
-HIP 35793 appears to be pointing to VY Canis Majoris. That would make it the second HIP address to do so. Not sure if this is an Fdev data issue or a glitch in the fuzzy search algorithm.
-HIP 35213 points to an invisible system.
-A good number of undiscovered EDSM HIPs are already discovered in-game.
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Here's a link for Sector 24 with Galmap very rough X/Y/Z https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/185sNqj2w0Zd7Vtr3X_WBs-LqfMNMJ45oVk4fyAPZzvE/edit?usp=sharing
If there are no X/Y/Z then the galmap does not respond to the system name, if there is a name in Col E then the system is in edsm under that name (this does not include HD names, just the weirder ones). Names in Col F (I think there is only one) are when there is a name in game but it is not in EDSM.
The systems are in the same order as the original sheet, so you should be able to cut & paste them into it if you like - I would probably say not to bother with the X/Y/Z as they are only roughly correct - I'm using them to make routes to minimise travel, and they're good enough for that.
If there are no X/Y/Z then the galmap does not respond to the system name, if there is a name in Col E then the system is in edsm under that name (this does not include HD names, just the weirder ones). Names in Col F (I think there is only one) are when there is a name in game but it is not in EDSM.
The systems are in the same order as the original sheet, so you should be able to cut & paste them into it if you like - I would probably say not to bother with the X/Y/Z as they are only roughly correct - I'm using them to make routes to minimise travel, and they're good enough for that.
Or simply people who don't report data to EDSM, Xbox players, PS4 players or PC players who don't use it etc.
Note it's quite possible for a system to have two names, the HIP calalogue is an amalgamation of several preceding catalogues, if VY CaNis Majoris was listed using different names in two different catalogues it's quite possibly it accidently got two HIP designators, or FDEV made a mistake, either is good.
Yes and I think there are some instances where a star system genuinely contains two HIP/HD numbers (or more usually, one HIP/HD and one HD) where the primary star is bright and there is a bright or reasonably bright component secondary. Almost all HIPs are also HDs but not all HDs are HIPs, where they are just HD they tend to be fainter stars.
Another one that turns up is names of the format: xx G. Constellation genitive (e.g. 63 G. Apodis) - these are from Gould's constellation designations - the G. in this case indicates Gould number and not Flamsteed number. So 63 Apodis (Flamsteed) and 63 G. Apodis (Gould) are different.
LHS, LTT and similar are stars that have a high proper motion so they are all close to Sol.
I haven't yet done a cross match with Gould numbers or with Gliese, I'll look at doing that.
Another one that turns up is names of the format: xx G. Constellation genitive (e.g. 63 G. Apodis) - these are from Gould's constellation designations - the G. in this case indicates Gould number and not Flamsteed number. So 63 Apodis (Flamsteed) and 63 G. Apodis (Gould) are different.
LHS, LTT and similar are stars that have a high proper motion so they are all close to Sol.
I haven't yet done a cross match with Gould numbers or with Gliese, I'll look at doing that.
Generally (very generally) the game uses HIP numbers for stars within 1000 ly of Sol and HD for stars further out. More of a guideline than a rule.
A quick update - between one thing and another we have now identified around 2500 extra stars (or in some cases, that there is no star system to be found for that HIP number), most of which are now in EDSM with coordinates. Good going!
A quick heads-up about two HIP stars that seem to be in the same place: HIP 39825 and HIP 39827. You can select them both and jump to them; the contents are different (unspectacular).
Good luck with your search, I hope you find something interesting! o7
Good luck with your search, I hope you find something interesting! o7
I have now matched against the Gould designations (using the HD number of the star - I may not have caught every Gould identity) - this has added a few hundred extra known stars. I'll see if I can get the Gliese ones.
(edited to add - there's only one Gliese left, a couple of Giclas and one LHS left - that is, if my matching worked, which I suspect it may not have - I'll check what happens next time I run the sync)
(edited to add - there's only one Gliese left, a couple of Giclas and one LHS left - that is, if my matching worked, which I suspect it may not have - I'll check what happens next time I run the sync)
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Was thinking of going out and exploring some more, so this sounds good.
I have a fleet carrier if necessary, but that is currently supporting my alt account, so will start with my long range Anaconda.
Sector 14 looks interesting, and the first few are not too far from the bubble.
Look out for Cmdr Expugnax on EDSM.
I have a fleet carrier if necessary, but that is currently supporting my alt account, so will start with my long range Anaconda.
Sector 14 looks interesting, and the first few are not too far from the bubble.
Look out for Cmdr Expugnax on EDSM.