Sentient creatures have more responsibility than normal animals. I presume this is treating the 'goids as mere animals too.
Is anyone still Xeno-Friendly? If so why?
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Sentient creatures have more responsibility than normal animals. I presume this is treating the 'goids as mere animals too.
The Thargoids know damn right what they are doing.
Are you sure? Have you even talked to one?
You assume that the Guardians knew there were 2 Thargoid factions and chose to fight any Thargoid in sight. There is (to my knowledge) no proof of that. In his last (official) E : D book, Drew Wagar wrote that there are two Thargoids factions. Those stupid Guardians just didn't realise there were bad and good aliens.
Unless you can provide proof that this OFFICIAL E : D book has, in fact, been discarded by FD, I still assume that the Thargoids we are seeing now are the Thargoid faction we need to ally with, in order to fight and destroy the second, much more aggressive & dangerous Thargoid faction.
If this aggressive stance is *your* roleplay, great ! Let's roleplay...
On the contrary, if you cannot grasp the concept that some pixels could be worse than others in this (lousy) story, I guess we can agree to disagree.
As for my toon, he won't target the Thargoids until they attack non AEGIS stations.
Now, maybe even FD doesn't know what the truth is : in that case, pardon my French (haha), screw this and let's pewpew, who cares anyway ?
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We have to follow the evidence and this currently shows that we now have 2 independent sources confirming how aggressive the Thargoids are as well as all the evidence from their actions invading human space and killing innocent civilians. The Thargoid scouts also attack unprovoked unlike the other Thargoid vessels as I can speak from first hand experience with them in Bahl. Every non human signal source in Bahl are Thargoid scouts as far as I’m aware so you can see for yourself. So unless there is more evidence to the contrary then anything else is just hypothesis or conspiracy.
Citation needed for said "arrogance"...
Well, what we've seen in at least two of the books indicates that they are sentient, and that they know we are sentient. But due to factor X - hive mind, perhaps - they don't consider us on the same level and we're only (to the Osresians) a resource to exploit. The scientist working with them in "Out of Darkness" said as much. He hoped his research into an advanced protein serum would buff humans/humanity to the point where the Thargoids would see as equals; his serum clearly worked, turning a Homer Simpson like character into a Combat Elite level pilot/speed reading genius. As for what the Osresians got out of the deal: they got to observe all the mock combats between Elite level (captured ones vs. drug boosted ones) pilots, which would help them perform better in combat against the Klaxians. Also, if it worked out, humanity would be an even more effective "bullet shield" against the Klaxians.
As for the Guardians, according to their codex, what started the conflict was the fact that they settled worlds that the Thargoids (unbeknowst to them) had seeded with Barnacles. When the Thargoids showed up a 1000 years later to harvest their crop, they found Guardians on their planet, and immediately attacked them.
It's unlikely a rogue AI attacked the Guardians. The records indicate they worked very well with their creators until they decided the Guardians were just too violent and a threat to the AIs survival.
You can read all 28 of the new Guardian entries here: https://canonn.science/codex/guardians-codex/
Umm, you're making an assumption that the Thargoid civil war was already underway when the Guardians were around. We have no proof that this is, or isn't, the case. Heck, the Thargoid civil war may have resulted due to their getting beaten back by the Guardians and then the Thargoids split over how to handle that.
As for the rest of your post, I don't understand. The official ED books have shown we've dealt with the "good" faction of Thargoids, and they are jerks. They're going to use us as a bullet shield against the Klaxians. Not ally with us... use us as a distraction. So if there were two factions of Thargoids at war 2 million years ago, it wouldn't matter which side the Guardians contacted and were rebuffed - the Osresians would've just wanted to use them and the Klaxians would've just wanted them dead. No different than today.
Also, a third official ED book showed us that the Thargoids have AI - e.g. D.O.R.I.S. - that they are using to gain more intel on us. And that AI shares their view of us - utter contempt and we should all be murdered in the most horrid way possible if given the chance.
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Ive never been unfriendly to them because Ive never seen one nor has any of them giving me a reason to be unfriendly. So they killing a few people on the other side of the milky way that humans invaded ergo they brought it upon themselves...the so called invasion was us invading them not the other way around.
The superpowers here and the swathes of factions kill each other every single day...and they been doing it fer centuries...so again...why should I care? To save my fellow humans? Cool...but after we discuss payment, not before. I kill fer money, not fer fun and never fer free.
Money not so good against the aliens? Good luck then, have a nice war ^
The superpowers here and the swathes of factions kill each other every single day...and they been doing it fer centuries...so again...why should I care? To save my fellow humans? Cool...but after we discuss payment, not before. I kill fer money, not fer fun and never fer free.
Money not so good against the aliens? Good luck then, have a nice war ^
Ok, this is like shouting "Fake News!" at anything you disagree with. Is their possibly some bias in the Guardian records? Sure. Does that totally refute the position stated there? No.
As for Galnet, they report the news that they get. Sure, the Club was behind several incidents that were reported, but the actual reporting was accurate. Galnet is reporting what is publicly known - which may not always been the whole truth, or even correct at all (as with many things relating to Salome).
As far as I'm concerned, the logs from the trashed prison Megaship are all the proof anyone should need about the unprovoked aggression of the Thargoids: those logs clearly indicate that the crew was desperate to appear non-threatening to the Thargoids and were attacked/destroyed anyway.
But hey, keep shouting "Fake news" until the Thargoid wipes out half the Bubble. [noob]
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Or they don't.....
Notice how no attacks came on Thursday just gone? Coincidentally, Colonia had a CG to beef up security against the 'goids come out that same day.....
Right now, all I have is a nice little conspiracy, but, we shall see.....
I'm basing my opinion on direct interaction with Thargoids and Guardians.
The Guardian Sentinels are instantly aggressive.
The Thargoids leave you alone unless you've got their stuff.
The Scouts only arrived as a counter-escalation to Aegis tech.
But hey, none of this matters - the story is on rails and will unfold as intended.
The Guardian Sentinels are instantly aggressive.
The Thargoids leave you alone unless you've got their stuff.
The Scouts only arrived as a counter-escalation to Aegis tech.
But hey, none of this matters - the story is on rails and will unfold as intended.
They understand when you feed them meta alloys.....
I am, because 6K LY out there's no new game, other than 'prettier' coloured balls of boredom.
Next update please
Next update please
Not really. They just take it and move on like they would any other piece of non-Guardian cargo.
Oh agreed, something weird is going on. If the Thargoids hate Aegis so much, and don't want to attack other stations, why did they only cripple those stations instead of destroy them? Also, why attack various megaships - like that prison ship - or civilian ships (trashed Belugas) if they only want to counter Aegis?
I'm not sure what the Osresian strategy is. So far, it doesn't make much sense.
However, as far as the threat to the Bubble - according to what was revealed in the books, versus what we're seeing in game, I think we're still just seeing the advanced vanguard of the Osresians. The bulk of their fleet hasn't arrived yet.
One last tidbit to chew on conspiracy-wise - why does the Thargoid EMP field shutdown all modern ships, but older ships (with only the new FSDs drives, all other tech onboard 2-300 years old) are completely immune? In Premonition, Luko's old Cobra Mk III was completely immune to the Thargoids shutdown field. Further, he was able to severely injure Cyclops interceptors with normal weapons (and kill several with his self-destruct). Why would old tech be immune but new tech so vulnerable?
I like this idea – that the Thargoids are being displaced by something else etc. Perhaps the first sign might be the rhythmic dimming of a distant star, characteristic of some kind of Dyson Sphere. We’d know that we’d have to take any such race very seriously. It could be quite dramatic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
I've only encountered them a handful of times and they were non-hostile. I was on guard but they left me alone. The precision of their attacks were to accomplish specific goals. They didn't annihilate the stations, they didn't pick off rescue ships and they haven't encroached on the bubble. It seems far more likely that we're in their territory and they want us out since we aren't exactly benign.