I've made 100 million in a night doing PVP piracy.. Ok, I could make more mining, but I don't think it's as bad as people say tbh, and it can be a lot more fun than mining.
Making money as a pirate, is it possible?
I've made 100 million in a night doing PVP piracy.. Ok, I could make more mining, but I don't think it's as bad as people say tbh, and it can be a lot more fun than mining.
@Old Duck, what manner of vessel are you using to experiment with piracy, CMDR? I am considering a side piracy gig, myself. I have no experience in the trade. Presently, I am considering the Python, Clipper, and Cutter, as possible pirate ships. Thank you for your consideration of my request. o7
Nothing personal, but I like keeping my prototypes secret. The element of surprise is part of my strategy. Eventually my reputation will grow and word will get out about my dread pirate ship that has no equal. Until then, I am a ghost in the mist.
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Cobra Mk III is the best pirate ship.Nothing personal, but I like keeping my prototypes secret. The element of surprise is part of my strategy. Eventually my reputation will grow and word will get out about my dread pirate ship that has no equal. Until then, I am a ghost in the mist.
But it's also the best ship.
My ship must be working, as I chased both a Deadly Cutter and Elite Corvette out of the ring! Never expected that..
I'm able to drop a lot of cargo from my "guests", but my collector limpets are being pretty rubbish at picking this cargo up... Do I need to individually target each item I want when it's not mine? I can do that, though it sure goes through the limpets quick.
I'm able to drop a lot of cargo from my "guests", but my collector limpets are being pretty rubbish at picking this cargo up... Do I need to individually target each item I want when it's not mine? I can do that, though it sure goes through the limpets quick.
years ago, i have tried to figure out how to go pirating NPCs. after many failed attempts i gave up.
several issues surfaced during those attempts:
- hatch breakers only spill cargo one container after another. someone would expect that a 7A Hatch Breaker controller would be worth its mass -> only if you jump into a convoi signal and simultaneously send out breaker limpets to 12 targets.
one-by-one spilling causes the spilled cargo to be spread across a long distance until the NPC just jumps out. - picking up loot takes far to long, while my ship is slowed down due to open cargo hatch. any point defense kills off all my collector limpets
- Multicrew could have been so good combined with this activity:
- Manifest scanner used by gunner to select what we want from the targets cargo
not implemented, manifest scanner has just the purpose to show what MAY come out of the hatch
also, gunner can't do s**** when not in external view. - pilot keeps target in range, and eventually disables its engines / FSD with force
any use of weapons instantly results in a bounty, instead of just a fine for using the hatchbreaker
there AFAIK no ways to keep an NPC from jumping without almost destroying him - Gunner manages Hatch Breaker limpets and collectors
Gunner has no access to the cargo hatch, and that needs to be open for collectors to bring back goods.
that defeats the purpose of giving the Gunner access to the Limpets...
- Manifest scanner used by gunner to select what we want from the targets cargo
- once upon a time, FDEV implemented alternatives to LTD hauler as "lucrative targets"... i have yet to find those often enough to be worth chasing
I don't bother with NPCs, they are too predictable and boring. Piracy for me is a subtle game played between two or more intellects - a game of the mind. There is no negotiating with or intimidating or bluffing or [insert favorite psi-op] an AI. And when it comes to outsmarting an AI, I'm looking for weaknesses in an unchanging algorithm rather than the second-by-second evolving tactics unique to each individual player.
Oh, and the AI cheat
Go easy on him @Krash I'll put money on the fact that your T10 is tooled-up in some way!
If you could somehow launder pirated goods and sell them on as clean then it would be worth it.
Great idea cmdr. Things like this and improved missions would really benefit the game. Just recently finished Far Cry 4 and that had karma events that would just happen as you were passing by and you could choose to participate or ignore. Imagine randomly getting a message saying a ship carrying valuable cargo was in peril with reward to assist, with some cmdrs going to defend, some to attack, like an instant mini battle with no predefined outcome?
Blame griefers.
I dont consider myself as miner (although obviously grinded some for FC) but I wouldnt mind dropping FEW diamonds. But borann had more griefers than pirate i think.
This is why I mine and sell in Open.
Having the threat of human players make it more challenging, and exciting.
Yeah, mining and exciting in the same sentence.
Correction. An elite player in a mining corvette. But still. I wish all pirates were like you. I'd purposely return to your hunting grounds for the security and "tax".
Nah, piracy isn't worth it. Fdev's policy is "low effort, high reward" anything that involves any kind of "git gud" pays only pocket change and sometimes even costs more than it pays (pvp combat is an example...)
With Fleet Carriers FDev are putting the potential for large scale player to player asset transfers into the game. Perhaps they will be more receptive to increasing or removing the bounty cap from PvP bounty hunting?
I've done some pirating in the past, back in the early days. I didn't bothered much with particular high price items. I used to raid just about any freighter there is, anything goes. I was making decent money for a starter on selling in large quantities, not on the value of particular item. This is the whole idea. You getting bunch of stuff, real quick, sell it and get more. Eventually I gave up on pirating, I grew over it. I figured T9 outfitted for trading on a good trading route makes me more money and just as easy. As for pirating LTDs goes. I don't think you can make just as much money by pirating as by mining, and considering amount of time and effort required to mine full load of LTDs I don't think you should. Even in real life thieves forced to sell stolen goods for a fraction of the real value. The only reason to pirate is that you don't have to spend hours on mining. Just wack one dude, get his cargo and sell it in a hurry.
I wouldn't mind but... I honestly doubt that Fdev will ever stop being... Fdev...
I just need to sent in local "Tasty Cargo?" and you see the contacts drop and no wake signal at all. That's why I built a "stealth" pirate ship, much more success with that one.