I was at a HighRes in LH 3505. After being driven off in my mining python, I sold my hard-won engineering supplies, switched to my FDL and came back to make around 5mil in about an hour of killing pirates.
Mining is becoming a joke
- Thread starter Limoncello Lizard
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The dumbest part of this is that if you have no cargo, and no refinery, you can sit and mine in the dead centre of a High RES without being bothered by pirates. I've done this.
But as soon as you have just one ton of an engineer cargo (worth nearly nothing), you have every pirate gunning for you, even in a lonely depleated rocky ring. This has happened to me.
I don't know how players manage to mine 500+ tons in large ships. If you ever need to log out of the game, you are a sitting duck when you log back in.
Yeah...
Siri and I often disagree on what I'm trying to say and sometimes I'll either miss or can't be bothered to correct her.
And I thought EVE belt ratting could be a bit hairy in deep 0.0 at times if you weren't rolling a proper combat escort with your mining rigs. Good grief, did the pirates sit down at the table and go "You know what this game needs, hot drops. Lots and lots of hot drops, right on those lousy miners!"
Let me know if you regret these words later ;-)
Be warned, they also magically appear right behind you in SC.
Is the pirate swarm only appearing for you if you enter a system with cargo aquired prior to the jump?
That does speak for the theory of npcs spawning tied to states of the CMDR,
if you are empty have a refinery and cargo-bays and aquire the cargo in your instance (mining ring)
they should not spawn, right?
That is how i did mining and never was attacked.
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Something I meant to try, but didn't before I sold my mining gear (for a while, at least):
While testing with NPC pirates I carried some Engineer Commodities in my Cobra Mk3 (like 4 tons of Microweave Hoses, something) while scouting USS sites. Then, while I was out a pirate next jumped into bother me, I just dumped that Engineer cargo. The pirate was happy, took one of the canisters, and left.
What I had wanted to do is go mining with a few tons of these items, and drop them when approached. See if that ends the piracy NPC spawns for that instance while I mine.
While testing with NPC pirates I carried some Engineer Commodities in my Cobra Mk3 (like 4 tons of Microweave Hoses, something) while scouting USS sites. Then, while I was out a pirate next jumped into bother me, I just dumped that Engineer cargo. The pirate was happy, took one of the canisters, and left.
What I had wanted to do is go mining with a few tons of these items, and drop them when approached. See if that ends the piracy NPC spawns for that instance while I mine.
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Mining is becoming a joke
he he...becoming?......
i like the idea of being a dirty old miner complete with davey lamp ect......but i dont like the mechanics we have for it.
personally FD i would have a deployable smaller craft that has a wire/hose attatched to it...a bit like a forklift jcb type machine on legs and has thrusters.
well id like to fly some sort of contraption a short way from my ship and land on a roid and drop a drill into it or a laser.....whatever is scooped gets sent to ship via the connection hose.
whilst mining a npc could look after the mothership,and perhaps a npc in a condor watching my 6 aswell.
for me that would be exciting mining...also needs to be on planets,proper big drilling rig type settlements ect.
or the ability to buy a mining module to carry in our ships,but have the option to make it a drone that can go on set routes one plans whilst you mine away normally...a mining drone could be cool and a nice little earner.
he he...becoming?......
i like the idea of being a dirty old miner complete with davey lamp ect......but i dont like the mechanics we have for it.
personally FD i would have a deployable smaller craft that has a wire/hose attatched to it...a bit like a forklift jcb type machine on legs and has thrusters.
well id like to fly some sort of contraption a short way from my ship and land on a roid and drop a drill into it or a laser.....whatever is scooped gets sent to ship via the connection hose.
whilst mining a npc could look after the mothership,and perhaps a npc in a condor watching my 6 aswell.
for me that would be exciting mining...also needs to be on planets,proper big drilling rig type settlements ect.
or the ability to buy a mining module to carry in our ships,but have the option to make it a drone that can go on set routes one plans whilst you mine away normally...a mining drone could be cool and a nice little earner.
Honestly I'm not being flippant here but you should try being a Pirate. Talk about auto spawn.
I get a bounty if I whack some sidewinder escort in the wrong system. Fair enough rules are rules. It's my fault, it's an honest cop, you got me guv.
But, I can jump into a system and boom I'm interdicted. OK, boost out, I won't hi wake coz on a mission or some such. Engage the usual interdiction avoidance strategy that works EVERY time I don't have a bounty but boom. Insta interdiction again.
And again.
Until I get bored or get killed. Honestly, I think we have more in common than you think.
Maybe we could, I don't know, work it together somehow. I'll keep the NPC off you until your full. Then, er maybe you could try and run away? I'll try and catch you. We could wrestle a bit, swap some cargo, you know, the usual roleplay stuff.
We could use a safe word. Promise I won't show you the rebuy screen?
It sounds like a win win to me.
Who's up for it?
I get a bounty if I whack some sidewinder escort in the wrong system. Fair enough rules are rules. It's my fault, it's an honest cop, you got me guv.
But, I can jump into a system and boom I'm interdicted. OK, boost out, I won't hi wake coz on a mission or some such. Engage the usual interdiction avoidance strategy that works EVERY time I don't have a bounty but boom. Insta interdiction again.
And again.
Until I get bored or get killed. Honestly, I think we have more in common than you think.
Maybe we could, I don't know, work it together somehow. I'll keep the NPC off you until your full. Then, er maybe you could try and run away? I'll try and catch you. We could wrestle a bit, swap some cargo, you know, the usual roleplay stuff.
We could use a safe word. Promise I won't show you the rebuy screen?
It sounds like a win win to me.
Who's up for it?
Drop into a ring (around planet not asteroid belt), not res, kill the first pirates that spawn, after that you should be good for undisturbed mining.Ive done it alot of times and its always like this, a batch of pirates sometimes spawn when you drop into ring (not res),but most times nobody comes.
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Haven't had this happen to me whilst mining, ever.
I did get attacked, once, in my Python when I dropped in, by a lone pirate. That's been the *only time* I've faced NPC aggression whilst mining.
EDIT: Though I'm not crazy enough to go mining while carrying Engineer commodities, because I know the NPCs are bugged and turn into aggressive psychopathic cloning monstrosities if you dare carry that stuff around. Just sell it, you can pick up any cargo-hold items when you actually need them, there are stations that sell the majority of these items.
At any rate the issue you're actually having and the title of this thread are completely at odds....
p.s. Large ships with 500+ tons of mined things? Limpets, lots and lots and lots and lots of limpets
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Before 2.1, it was possible to do a mining trip where you could drop into several parts of a ring and mine them seperately So you could mine for Cobalt in the rocky part and then finish mining in the metallic part of the ring. It also used to be possible to log out while mining and log back in a while later and complete. Doing either of these is nearly impossible to achieve now.
Mining is becoming a joke
he he...becoming?......
i like the idea of being a dirty old miner complete with davey lamp ect......but i dont like the mechanics we have for it.
personally FD i would have a deployable smaller craft that has a wire/hose attatched to it...a bit like a forklift jcb type machine on legs and has thrusters.
well id like to fly some sort of contraption a short way from my ship and land on a roid and drop a drill into it or a laser.....whatever is scooped gets sent to ship via the connection hose.
whilst mining a npc could look after the mothership,and perhaps a npc in a condor watching my 6 aswell.
for me that would be exciting mining...also needs to be on planets,proper big drilling rig type settlements ect.
or the ability to buy a mining module to carry in our ships,but have the option to make it a drone that can go on set routes one plans whilst you mine away normally...a mining drone could be cool and a nice little earner.
a drone with legs to walk in the asteroid to reach a specific spot of concentrated ore.
Good for you, you're lucky.
But that's not been my experience. Before 2.1 my mining Python with its 3 class 3 burst turrets was able to handle things nicely. After 2.1 it got so bad I had to sell my mining Python and step up to a 550 million credit mining Anaconda. 550 million credits just so I can be able to run and have a good chance of surviving.
https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda...ZlA=.CwBjEZzBmXuYsBMLUrCcDsKA?bn=HMS - Carlin
I have no problem doing those things. I only started mining after 2.1. It sounds like you need to become acquainted with your Boost button.
For "professional miners," a whole lot of you are clueless. I've only mined about 120 mil worth of profit so far. The answer to easy mining is repeatable everytime.
1. Only have limpits to start
2. Drop into pristine ring in a system with at least med security.
3. Initial spawn nearly always has one pirate. Make sure report crimes is on. Let him scan you, he won't scan you again.
4. Busy yourself mining, and laugh as security forces own the pirate after he attacks someone else. Bonus points for tagging him with a mining laser for the bounty.
5. Don't mine in something with subpar shields. You may have to play ring around the asteroid with the pirate while sec shows up
1. Only have limpits to start
2. Drop into pristine ring in a system with at least med security.
3. Initial spawn nearly always has one pirate. Make sure report crimes is on. Let him scan you, he won't scan you again.
4. Busy yourself mining, and laugh as security forces own the pirate after he attacks someone else. Bonus points for tagging him with a mining laser for the bounty.
5. Don't mine in something with subpar shields. You may have to play ring around the asteroid with the pirate while sec shows up
I complained about this same issue back when 2.1 was released, but the only replies I got at the time was run away for several minuts and "git gud"
Why are you sitting around letting the NPC scan you? Just boost away until all the ships are off you scanner and then you'll never have to worry about NPCs.
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You can do it the easy way that works 100% of the time, or you can choose to ignore simple advice and insist on making it hard on yourself. I'm not sure why you'd choose the latter.
You have enntirely missed the point. I don't see why every drop into a ring should need ten minutes of boosting to find a quiet location, when I should have dropped into a quiet location in the first place.
If I want to be a target for pirats while I mine, I'll go to a RES and equip for it.
Having to "escape" from every dro pinto a ring is becoming tedious.
See, again, that is the problem. I've got news for you. You are a potential target for pirates the second you undock from a station. I don't know why that is so hard to understand?