My open letter to Fdev

[Ziggy Stardust]

Perception is reality my friend. I have been leading Imperials in PvP combat for well over a year now.

New Caribbean Pirate Wars
34 Pegasi Wars
Imperial Coalition against Felicia Winters
Numerous system blockades
Numerous CG defenses
Imperial system defenses
Federation capitols system strikes

I've trained or helped train close to one hundred Imperial pilots in the arts of PvP combat. I was a member of the Prismatic Council; a member of the Imperial High Command. I have player group leaders reach out to me for various reasons on a routine basis.

I'm not saying this makes me the greatest, nor am I saying it means jack squat out of the confines of this video game. HOWEVER, it does give me ample credibility to claim that I am the leader of the player Imperial military. If it does not in your eyes... then who might make that claim?

Wow, well done there lad.

I can assure you I am very impressed. This is me being in awe of your leadership -> And I can assure you it means more than Jack and Squat within the confines of this video game. You Sir are important! (within the confines of this video game). Do I call you Sir? Or Your Honour? What am I thinking, Imperator surely.

But mind you, we can shake hands. I are important too. I'm the best smelling explorer this side of Sagittarius A. So we're in a league of important gentlemen.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Perception is reality my friend. I have been leading Imperials in PvP combat for well over a year now.

New Caribbean Pirate Wars
34 Pegasi Wars
Imperial Coalition against Felicia Winters
Numerous system blockades
Numerous CG defenses
Imperial system defenses
Federation capitols system strikes

I've trained or helped train close to one hundred Imperial pilots in the arts of PvP combat. I was a member of the Prismatic Council; a member of the Imperial High Command. I have player group leaders reach out to me for various reasons on a routine basis.

I'm not saying this makes me the greatest, nor am I saying it means jack squat out of the confines of this video game. HOWEVER, it does give me ample credibility to claim that I am the leader of the player Imperial military. If it does not in your eyes... then who might make that claim?

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As Lord Commander of the 13th Legion I was a member of the Imperial High Command. That group no longer exists though and none have formed to replace it, so I base the actions of our Imperial military on what I perceive an Imperial military would do. You say I don't act on behalf of the Empire? Who are *you* to claim such?

You sound like a threat to the Imperial hierarchy... I'm sure they will be amused.

 

[Ian Skippy]

As Lord Commander of the 13th Legion I was a member of the Imperial High Command. That group no longer exists though and none have formed to replace it, so I base the actions of our Imperial military on what I perceive an Imperial military would do. You say I don't act on behalf of the Empire? Who are *you* to claim such?

If you're going to RP something, at least read the wiki if the novels are too much words.
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Empire

You're a member of the pilot federation, and apparantly hang-out with some like-minded pilots. Thats cool, really, but you cant just ignore the actual in-game and external lore just because you like to feel like a big boy. Many people here kinda care about the background and lore, and its a bit silly to ignore the rudimentary basics of it. Espescially if you claim to roleplay.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

We shut down an entire CG, and this is the 42nd page of one of many threads talking about what we did. How can you say we had no impact in the game with a straight face?

We all know delusions of grandeur when we see it.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

The secret godempress of the bubble.…

All hail the godempress!
All bask in her fuel!

Meanwhile: PP with EG as a power will be really fun to watch. It's going to be a salt mine of broken illusionary grandeur …

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We all know delusions of grandeur when we see it.

Hey, I wanted to use that word since all that funny stuff started and now you ninja me with using it…

 

[Vandaahl]

We shut down an entire CG

Actually, you did not

 

[PavelKCZ]

We shut down an entire CG, and this is the 42nd page of one of many threads talking about what we did. How can you say we had no impact in the game with a straight face?

/irony on

Wow, it is quitely impressive, really.

Maybe, if you will find some high building (Big Ben, Empire State Building or Eiffel Tower comes to mind), you can do it into headlines of major TV stations like CNN or BBC. Especially with some slogan about 13 Empire soldiers and with some color rag on your head, you can even receive the Darwin award.

/irony off

Once more, what is your name soldier ?

 

[MarkAusten]

We shut down an entire CG, and this is the 42nd page of one of many threads talking about what we did. How can you say we had no impact in the game with a straight face?

Good lord! You don't equate the forum with the game do you. What a ...strange... view point.

As it happened were trying to keep the thread going till we reach 100 pages. Not for you, you're totally incidental to the target, we're doing it just to see if it can be done.

And staying mostly on topic.

 

[CMDR Kantos Kan]

You're not the imperial player military for one simple reason: You don't act on behalf of the empire. You neither have an official order from the imperial high command nor have your actions any consequences on the relation of the Empire and the Federation.
Every commander of a usual military unit would be expelled from his position after pulling a stunt like that. If you take into consideration that you not only provoked a direct conflict with the federal navy but also broke the cease fire.

Besides, if you insist on RPing. It's incredible easy to explain the removing of the lockdown state in terms of lore. That probably only took a single call from an admiral of the Federation to one of the top brass on Ramsbottom. A lockdown is unlike a war, civil war or a famine a measure to get crime in a system under control and thus executed by the controlling faction of the system.

There is no "official" entity, as far as I know, that represents the Empire, or the Federation or the Alliance for that matter. So, anybody is free to declare whatever they want. It's the player base that ultimately decides whether someone has legitimacy or not. Pretending his group can't represent the Empire is therefore, in my opinion, a moot point.

If nobody decides to do something in the name of a super power, who will? Blaze your own trail... and lets the people decides. If his group is irrelevant, it will be forgotten and eventually disappear.

 

[Garbarrage]

HOWEVER, it does give me ample credibility to claim that I am the leader of the player Imperial military. If it does not in your eyes... then who might make that claim?

Lol... Who else? Meet Frank the Grand Overlord of the 1st Legion. He outranks you.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

There is no "official" entity, as far as I know, that represents the Empire, or the Federation or the Alliance for that matter. …

There is: Frontier Developments

Every player who claims to be a representative of a super power is just fooling himself/herself.

 

[Ian Skippy]

There is no "official" entity, as far as I know, that represents the Empire, or the Federation or the Alliance for that matter. So, anybody is free to declare whatever they want. It's the player base that ultimately decides whether someone has legitimacy or not. Pretending his group can't represent the Empire is therefore, in my opinion, a moot point.

If nobody decides to do something in the name of a super power, who will? Blaze your own trail... and lets the people decides. If his group is irrelevant, it will be forgotten and eventually disappear.

As a general rule of thumb: if you cannot order Majestic Class Interdictors, you are not the Imperial Navy. You can join the Auxilary Imperial Navy and get formal ranks. You can also call yourself whatever you want, which will be meaningless. Harmless, but meaningless.

 

[PavelKCZ]

Good lord! You don't equate the forum with the game do you. What a ...strange... view point.

As it happened were trying to keep the thread going till we reach 100 pages. Not for you, you're totally incidental to the target, we're doing it just to see if it can be done.

And staying mostly on topic.

Well, small boys have small goals for obvious reasons. Personally, I shut down the whole ED game plenty of times. Last time it was around 2:00 AM CET today, when I was going to sleep.

On the other side, I must admit that those boys already deserved a small footnote in the book about the history of ED, which I am planning to write in ten years or similar "Soon" timeframe.

 

[Becks]

There is no "official" entity, as far as I know, that represents the Empire, or the Federation or the Alliance for that matter

Actually there is.

That entity is called Frontier Developments. And as long as FDev doesn't accept the 13th as player military of the empire, they're simply not the player military of the empire. And there are player groups recognized as entities in the lore. Canonn for example.

His group can represent the Empire, yeah. It can not break a cease fire and start a war with a rivaling superpower though and the legitimacy of that action is not a decision of the player base.

That'd be as lore breaking as the EDF invading Achenar on behalf of the Federation tomorrow morning for example.

There's a reason why the story is only playerdriven on certain points of decision. Mainly because the galaxy would burn after three days if it were completely playerdriven.

 

[Goose4291]

The website of Prismatic Imperium claims at this moment that the 13th Legion is their PvP wing. The OP and Nightshady are still mentioned on their memberlist. But hey, I'm sure that means nothing, too.

By the way, do you think it matters? You see, isn't roflstomping a potentially innocent player group for some made-up reason exactly what the emergent content crew is into? Or does it depend on who does the stomping and who is being stomped on? I'm no expert on the matter, so feel free to educate me.

They extended out a long time ago, for some reason they've not updated their various bits of propaganda. But as someone who knew and interacted with them and their leadership regularly, I can assure you what I stated (and also Nightshady's comments) are correct.
Regarding why its not cool to attack the Imperium over this, let's put it this way: I don't think advocating going after a group which is unconnected in some sort of attempt to retaliate at the legion is going to be either beneficial or provide a suitable remedy. All your going to do is annoy a bunch of players who aren't connected to this, and have the same viewpoints as you.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Actually there is.

That entity is called Frontier Developments. And as long as FDev doesn't accept the 13th as player military of the empire, they're simply not the player military of the empire. And there are player groups recognized as entities in the lore. Canonn for example.

His group can represent the Empire, yeah. It can not break a cease fire and start a war with a rivaling superpower though and the legitimacy of that action is not a decision of the player base.

That'd be as lore breaking as the EDF invading Achenar on behalf of the Federation tomorrow morning for example.

There's a reason why the story is only playerdriven on certain points of decision. Mainly because the galaxy would burn after three days if it were completely playerdriven.

Yeah, humans would do that.

 

[CMDR Kantos Kan]

Actually there is.

That entity is called Frontier Developments. And as long as FDev doesn't accept the 13th as player military of the empire, they're simply not the player military of the empire. And there are player groups recognized as entities in the lore. Canonn for example.

His group can represent the Empire, yeah. It can not break a cease fire and start a war with a rivaling superpower though and the legitimacy of that action is not a decision of the player base.

That'd be as lore breaking as the EDF invading Achenar on behalf of the Federation tomorrow morning for example.

There's a reason why the story is only playerdriven on certain points of decision. Mainly because the galaxy would burn after three days if it were completely playerdriven.

Well, then, if Frontier is controlling the Empire, they're doing a very lousy job. This CG to expand the Federation in Merope would have been opposed by any sane Empire high command, so that's why I'm suggesting that if Frontier is controlling the Empire, they're not very good at it. Actually, if they had thought about it a bit, they would have created another CG to oppose this expansion. Same thing that is happening in the South China Sea, where China is trying to expand and turn international waters into his own territory.

Put yourself into our own shoes. How would you feel if the Empire was invading a neutral system with some rare resources and declares it its own?

 

[Snooch leBooch]

Perception is reality my friend. <snip>dreams and nightmares</snip>

This show still on? Grrreat!?
Let's just forget that the op and his friends seemingly forgot to mention that they have no clue what this actually is all about. Ironic? Impossible? Ah..nah we got heroes in the building. Let me explain.
Yep - op exploits a welcoming group in a way that has nothing to do with the playing the game competitively - kills traders and unsuspecting bystanders in a way that has nothing to do with the claimed reasons but rather with the need to pewpew - other 'heroes' come in and claim the same while people with 10% functioning brain capacitiy can see that this was miles away from anything resembling a fair contest or justified, and now those heroes claim they do matter "command wings" and speak for a the whole of the empire - in a game that never was designed to have a player or player organization to speak for main factions, and now .. they bizarrely pretend (?) they are working in the interest of the whole empire and bringing the entirety of the game forward - with no inkling as to why their behavior might not be the best way to get any point across

i just can't cope with this amount of...-

I don't envy the dev's at all. Trying to make the best game possible while also wasting an enormous amount of time on making it idiot proof.
Your posting is nothing but a weak excuse of a delusional exploiter to justify your epeen enlarging moves. Pathetic is somewhere out there..if it wasn't overshadowed by the "ooh, how quaint" feeling and the desire to pat your head and whisper "it's gonna be alright lill one"

 

[Becks]

Well, then, if Frontier is controlling the Empire, they're doing a very lousy job. This CG to expand the Federation in Merope would have been opposed by any sane Empire high command, so that's why I'm suggesting that if Frontier is controlling the Empire, they're not very good at it. Actually, if they had thought about it a bit, they would have created another CG to oppose this expansion. Same thing that is happening in the South China Sea, where China is trying to expand and turn international waters into his own territory.

Put yourself into our own shoes. How would you feel if the Empire was invading a neutral system with some rare resources and declares it its own?

Are they?

You don't know what FDev has planned for this storyline. I personally doubt that the Empire will watch much longer. They'll either compete over systems with the barnacles or the Empire will try to discover and colonize their own barnacles.

The recent situation in the South Chinese sea is a good example. Has somebody actually done more than speaking harsh words into their direction and bringing the case to an international court (which China simply refuses to accept)?
I think you can see pretty easily what consequences a blockade of one of those articial islands of china would have, therefore nobody is dumb enough to do it.
It's a pretty good example of the consequences this blockade would have if it was executed by the imperial navy.

Let the storyline continue for a few more weeks before you decide that the Empire is disadvantaged by Frontier.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

… This CG to expand the Federation in Merope would have been opposed by any sane Empire high command, …

Only if meta-alloys are really that important.
Only if there are no other sources of meta-alloys.
Only if the Empire could actually keep a military presence in that region - highly doubtful.
Only if the Empire thinks that an open war would be something they can afford.

What if the Empire is quite happy with the typical federal display of power in a region of space that is far away from the core Empire space? A region that might be the starting point of a military confrontation with an unknown enemy of unknown power?

Imperial players usually are to blind in their desire to fight the Federation to see other options and possibilities. Only capable to hit everything that sounds like Federation.

You want to fight the Federation, too bad that the imperial players decided to destroy Emperor's Dawn. Those where the guys who wanted war and expansion. That was the faction that could have made the Empire "great" again.