No more patch updates before Fleet Carriers?

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Don't forget that for some here, no matter how successful New Era is, they will still find fault in it. What is more astounding is that one or two of them might even try New Era before proclaiming how bad it is, the rest won't even bother trying the DLC or even the Beta. I am convinced that some here secretly want FD to fail spectacularly, just so they can jump back on here (before FD closes the forums for good) to brag on how they were right all along!

Some people being upset won't be avoidable, even notorious trolls aside.

Elite has many different aspects and a lot people who love those have been waiting for an update for years. The New Era seems to be the one big (maybe last) shot to finally address their pet feature. I don't know if the radio silence is the best way to go. With a "New Era won't include a complete PP revamp" or a "we don't have plans for fleshing out Multicrew" here and there, they could get rid of some outbursts over the years/months while Elite is not in the media's focus. Instead they seem to be building up to the one huge mother of all salt avalanches.

But I like to think the majority will be happy.
 
But on the other hand I suspect that most of us aren't going to cut off the New Era nose to spite Frontier's face.
I will not boycott New Era just to "That'll show you, Frontier!" Heck, I bought ED for PC after being screwed by Frontier on PS4. On the other hand, ED is starting to have serious competition for my time and money, especially with MSFS 2020 releasing around the same time as New Era. If I have to choose, I'll likely choose MSFS. After all, it will have the best feature that I want from New Era, an amazing atmospheric world to enjoy!

Disclaimer - I'm assuming New Era will be something of a letdown, which saves me from disappointment if it is, and if it's actually amazing, well then I can be pleasantly surprised. Win, win!
 
Not everybody forgives and forgets. There are still people who refuse to give NMS another go because they hated the 1.0 version so much, and now they feel it their God-given calling to punish Sean Murray for the rest of eternity. There are people who feel the same way about Elite. Me, well I guess my love of ED in VR has caused me to forget the horrible mess they made out of the PS4 version of Elite, but I am very unlikely to buy Arx now or in the future because I don't trust the company not to screw up the game in new and creative ways, which is something they have been doing since I bought it almost three years ago. The removal of CGs and IIs is just the latest example. Now whether or not Frontier actually cares that this one player no longer spends money on their game, I do not know. 🤷
Hey, I already disliked NMS before it was cool 1.0.

Anyway, I think Frontiers business model doesn't rely as much on cosmetics as some people assume. It's probably a nice bonus and gives them the opportunity to hire a few more devs. But the main income is still expansions and the base game, which is why they put most energy into developing updates rather than thinking of creative ways to push micro transactions (like loot boxes or pay to win mechanics).
So my guess is that they don't care that much if you don't buy paintjobs. I am basically avoiding paintjobs since day one and the game is still running!
 
Anyway, I think Frontiers business model doesn't rely as much on cosmetics as some people assume. It's probably a nice bonus and gives them the opportunity to hire a few more devs. But the main income is still expansions and the base game, which is why they put most energy into developing updates rather than thinking of creative ways to push micro transactions (like loot boxes or pay to win mechanics).
Were you in a coma last year?
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Your honor, I rest my case.
 
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Hey, I already disliked NMS before it was cool 1.0.

Anyway, I think Frontiers business model doesn't rely as much on cosmetics as some people assume. It's probably a nice bonus and gives them the opportunity to hire a few more devs. But the main income is still expansions and the base game, which is why they put most energy into developing updates rather than thinking of creative ways to push micro transactions (like loot boxes or pay to win mechanics).
So my guess is that they don't care that much if you don't buy paintjobs. I am basically avoiding paintjobs since day one and the game is still running!
So you are the reason they don't have enough staff for Galnet ! 😜
 
Some people being upset won't be avoidable, even notorious trolls aside.

Elite has many different aspects and a lot people who love those have been waiting for an update for years. The New Era seems to be the one big (maybe last) shot to finally address their pet feature. I don't know if the radio silence is the best way to go. With a "New Era won't include a complete PP revamp" or a "we don't have plans for fleshing out Multicrew" here and there, they could get rid of some outbursts over the years/months while Elite is not in the media's focus. Instead they seem to be building up to the one huge mother of all salt avalanches.

But I like to think the majority will be happy.
See I just don't understand this entire 'FD MUST TELL US EVERYTHING' mentality some have here. Why, what will telling everyone what will happen in 12 months time going to achieve. If FD made an announcement tomorrow on what is in New Era, how would that effect the player base?:
  1. Some will say they are rage quitting (but we can never tell because the refuse to leave the forums lol). Not a great loss to FD as they would rage quit when the DLC drops anyway.
  2. Some will declare that they won't buy the DLC because of 'x' either being included or being excluded (or both with some here). Again, nothing FD can do about that, they had to make a business decision and know that they can't please everyone all the time and no one player is more important than any other player.
  3. The majority will continue playing, either whining about what is about to happen or excited about it. But they are smart enough to know these big changes to the game are outside of their control and they have to either accept FD's decisions or they can vote with their feet and leave.
  4. The worst that can happen is FD state they are planning on added 'ABC' to the game but down track find out they can't for some legitimate reason whether it be some engineering problem with either one of the platforms or Windows. Basically something outside of their control and they admit that. What happens then is the forum will erupt with cries of YOU PROMISED, totally ignoring the bit that ABC can't be done for some valid reason.
So I will ask again, why should FD be forced to tell us what their long and short term plans are and what would it achieve (apart from generating more salt)?
 
See I just don't understand this entire 'FD MUST TELL US EVERYTHING' mentality some have here.

I think there are several options between EVERYTHING and what we have now.

If FD made an announcement tomorrow on what is in New Era, how would that effect the player base?:
  1. Some will say they are rage quitting (but we can never tell because the refuse to leave the forums lol). Not a great loss to FD as they would rage quit when the DLC drops anyway.
  2. Some will declare that they won't buy the DLC because of 'x' either being included or being excluded (or both with some here). Again, nothing FD can do about that, they had to make a business decision and know that they can't please everyone all the time and no one player is more important than any other player.
  3. The majority will continue playing, either whining about what is about to happen or excited about it. But they are smart enough to know these big changes to the game are outside of their control and they have to either accept FD's decisions or they can vote with their feet and leave.
  4. The worst that can happen is FD state they are planning on added 'ABC' to the game but down track find out they can't for some legitimate reason whether it be some engineering problem with either one of the platforms or Windows. Basically something outside of their control and they admit that. What happens then is the forum will erupt with cries of YOU PROMISED, totally ignoring the bit that ABC can't be done for some valid reason.

So things would stay exactly the same? :D Why not give it a shot then?

So I will ask again, why should FD be forced to tell us what their long and short term plans are and what would it achieve (apart from generating more salt)?

I never said a word about forcing Frontier to do anything. I don't think it would generate more salt, but the same amount. The distribution would maybe be different, getting rid of some before the release and media spotlight.
 
See I just don't understand this entire 'FD MUST TELL US EVERYTHING' mentality some have here. Why, what will telling everyone what will happen in 12 months time going to achieve. If FD made an announcement tomorrow on what is in New Era, how would that effect the player base?:
  1. Some will say they are rage quitting (but we can never tell because the refuse to leave the forums lol). Not a great loss to FD as they would rage quit when the DLC drops anyway.
  2. Some will declare that they won't buy the DLC because of 'x' either being included or being excluded (or both with some here). Again, nothing FD can do about that, they had to make a business decision and know that they can't please everyone all the time and no one player is more important than any other player.
  3. The majority will continue playing, either whining about what is about to happen or excited about it. But they are smart enough to know these big changes to the game are outside of their control and they have to either accept FD's decisions or they can vote with their feet and leave.
  4. The worst that can happen is FD state they are planning on added 'ABC' to the game but down track find out they can't for some legitimate reason whether it be some engineering problem with either one of the platforms or Windows. Basically something outside of their control and they admit that. What happens then is the forum will erupt with cries of YOU PROMISED, totally ignoring the bit that ABC can't be done for some valid reason.
So I will ask again, why should FD be forced to tell us what their long and short term plans are and what would it achieve (apart from generating more salt)?


You worry far too much about what others think or say. You'll get grey hairs very quickly that way.
 
You worry far too much about what others think or say. You'll get grey hairs very quickly that way.
Way too late for that, I was grey in my 30's (but that didn't matter, had very short hair then due to my job lol). I just get peed off when people state that if FD did X everything would be perfect !
 

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At 6 minutes. And it was an announcement about an announcement, nothing more.

9 pages of trash talk over this?

Slow news day... week... month... year...

Haaaang on for just one moment there. Who are you and where's the REAL Agony Aunt? He would never be surprised at that!
 
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