No more patch updates before Fleet Carriers?

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Viajero

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Viajero
zimms said:
I think there are several options between EVERYTHING and what we have now.
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I think the way you present that dichotomy is a bit skewed already. If you use EVERYTHING in one extreme you should be using NOTHING at the other. Mainly because what we have today is quite a lot more than that nothing. And to ask for EVERYTHING seems a tad unrealistic and unfair. Then we can discuss how relevant what we have today is, if you want.

In addition to that, and perhaps even more importantly, you are also missing the critical time dimension. Information about future events can be more or less accurate (and therefore relevant) depending on how close they are to said events.

At the end of the day it is the developer prerogative anyways. Their money (LEP minority notwithstanding), their resources, their risk (if things go wrong) and therefore their rules.
 
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zimms

zimms
Viajero said:
I think the way you present that dichotomy is skewed already. If you use EVERYTHING in one extreme you should be using NOTHING at the other. Mainly because what we have today is quite a lot more than that nothing. And to ask for EVERYTHING seems a tad unrealistic and unfair. Then we can discuss how relevant what we have today is, if you want.

In addition to that, and perhaps even more importantly, you are also missing the critical time dimension. Information about future events can be more or less accurate (and therefore relevant) depending on how close they are to said events.

At the end of the day it is the de eloped prerrogativa anyways. Their money, their resources, their risk and therefore their rules.
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This forum really is a mine field sometimes.

I did not use the word NOTHING because then I would have been accused of claiming Frontier have told us nothing. (Although with regards to New Era that's almost true.)

I did use the word EVERYTHING because that was a quote. And it felt a bit like he was trying to put those words in my mouth, Cpt. Caps style.

And yes, asking for EVERYTHING would be a bit much, luckily I never did that.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
zimms said:
This forum really is a mine field sometimes.

I did not use the word NOTHING because then I would have been accused of claiming Frontier have told us nothing. (Although with regards to New Era that's almost true.)

I did use the word EVERYTHING because that was a quote. And it felt a bit like he was trying to put those words in my mouth, Cpt. Caps style.

And yes, asking for EVERYTHING would be a bit much, luckily I never did that.
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Yeah fair.
 

Martind Forlon

Martind Forlon
just to comment ARX thing ... imo the worst was 1st application with buggs, then partly functioning in-game store only and completely non-working web store. Cutting own income due bugs in selling interface was imo the most visible thing documenting technical state of the game.


For ARX itself I need to say it's not bad, especially in light of theirs possibility earn them via play this game. I gave during years much more money on cosmetics as compared with overall cost of 3 accounts. However now I'm thinking much more if I want buy somethin because it looks like cosmetics price is higher with ARX. ... with that above said, I still buy stuff if is added something what I like (as Mamba kits or Stygian paints) but in total I spent much less money/time. I also always liked idea about support ED with cosmetics purchase, but my trust is much smaller in last time (for a reasons stated numerous times in this thread). It's FDev's turn now to prove that they still deserve the right to be trusted.
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Viajero said:
Yeah, ignore all the previous doom statements since 2013. This time is for realsies.
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I wonder if there’s a Babylon 5 one:

“So no doom?”

“No doom today, doom tomorrow. There’s always doom tomorrow. What? Someone’s got to have some persepective around here? Doom. Sooner or later, DOOM!” :D
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
rootsrat said:
Haaaang on for just one moment there. Who are you and where's the REAL Agony Aunt? He would never be surprised at that!
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May I have your attention, please?
May I have your attention, please?
Will the real Agony Aunt please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Agony Aunt please stand up?
 

CMDR Big Mike

CMDR Big Mike
M00ka said:
See I just don't understand this entire 'FD MUST TELL US EVERYTHING' mentality some have here. Why, what will telling everyone what will happen in 12 months time going to achieve. If FD made an announcement tomorrow on what is in New Era, how would that effect the player base?:
  1. Some will say they are rage quitting (but we can never tell because the refuse to leave the forums lol). Not a great loss to FD as they would rage quit when the DLC drops anyway.
  2. Some will declare that they won't buy the DLC because of 'x' either being included or being excluded (or both with some here). Again, nothing FD can do about that, they had to make a business decision and know that they can't please everyone all the time and no one player is more important than any other player.
  3. The majority will continue playing, either whining about what is about to happen or excited about it. But they are smart enough to know these big changes to the game are outside of their control and they have to either accept FD's decisions or they can vote with their feet and leave.
  4. The worst that can happen is FD state they are planning on added 'ABC' to the game but down track find out they can't for some legitimate reason whether it be some engineering problem with either one of the platforms or Windows. Basically something outside of their control and they admit that. What happens then is the forum will erupt with cries of YOU PROMISED, totally ignoring the bit that ABC can't be done for some valid reason.
So I will ask again, why should FD be forced to tell us what their long and short term plans are and what would it achieve (apart from generating more salt)?
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I don’t want everything, just a little something. Specifically release dates of new features so I can request time off from work ;)
 

myothershipisacobraiv

myothershipisacobraiv
I never thought GalNet sucked. It was Lo-Fi but that doesn't mean it sucked. At least it was incorporated better than the lit sections of some other modern games. Some other games just have their lit dumped in this spot and it's just so obviously bolted on to the game and it doesn't really synergize in any way.

The two biggest wants I have in this game would be more and better music, possibly even really regionally differentiated music, and something to make the doldrums of SC less intense.

I tried playing this game with some of Roberts' music and man what a difference it made. I kept specific tracks to specific system types and it was great! The ED music feels more impressive and dynamic in some ways but the fresh music was such a bump to the atmosphere.

I also wish SC wasn't like it was. I wish it was more interesting to look at or took skill to do somehow. Like in Andromeda maybe where you have to actually navigate through it or it can destroy the ship. Maybe the faster you go the more intense it is and at base speed it requires no input; we do this as a courtesy to screenshots or to give people a moment if needed or maybe to get up from the helm for when space legs comes in. Perhaps Interdictions could simply be a game of chicken. The more suicidal the freighter pilot the more risk the interdictor must take.

Anyway. I just hope some new music comes in with space legs, and some tweak to SC, whatever that is, or at least something good to do on the ship while you're waiting.
 

myothershipisacobraiv

myothershipisacobraiv
Perhaps there could be both. Perhaps SC 2.0 is something you could choose to kick on or not if you wanted to do something with your legs on the ship along the way, and just let regular SC get you there the slow way.

Anyway. Part of me wonders if they're insistent on launching FC before New Era because FC wasn't developed by A-Team working on New Era and they want testing. I don't readily see how FC sets up New Era, but I can see how it would exist alongside it, what with base building.
 

Stephen Benedetti

Community Manager
Frontier
StuartGT said:
Thanks Stephen :)

Can you answer yet whether some or all of Galnet News Articles, Community Goals, and Interstellar Initiatives, are (not) returning alongside Fleet Carriers?
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Hey @StuartGT,

There are no plans on returning Galnet News Articles, Community Goals, and Interstellar Initiatives at this time. If this does change we will let you know.
 

Garud

Garud
myothershipisacobraiv said:
Perhaps there could be both. Perhaps SC 2.0 is something you could choose to kick on or not if you wanted to do something with your legs on the ship along the way, and just let regular SC get you there the slow way.

Anyway. Part of me wonders if they're insistent on launching FC before New Era because FC wasn't developed by A-Team working on New Era and they want testing. I don't readily see how FC sets up New Era, but I can see how it would exist alongside it, what with base building.
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Fleet Carriers is certainly not part of the "New Era". The 2 being close to one another is due to the delay of FC but there is a chance that FC was delayed to accommodate some changes to handle whatever is coming in the "New Era".
 
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