Well, if you change your mind I'll be docking at the Space Café in Sol from time to time. There might be an off-line mode down the road, and I support it.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Well, if you change your mind I'll be docking at the Space Café in Sol from time to time. There might be an off-line mode down the road, and I support it.
Solo online has tiny requirements internet wise, have you even looked at how much bandwidth is being used when solo?
This is what i do not understand, if you are complaining about multi-player online then yes this requires a bit more bandwidth but how is that relevant when you are comparing it to offline?
Now you're being flippant. Of course they were games, as defined by their design documents and the technical limitations of the time.
Elite: Dangerous ≠ Elite/FE2/FFE
I don't think anyone is arguing that those who need or want Offline-compatibility, don't have the right to say it. I've said that over and over again in this thread.
That said, if the game is better on the whole, because of this decision; and meets the quality-levels that FD have strived for... then perhaps it's a necessary evil.
I do not collect the tears of those who feel a great misjustice has been done. Instead, I stand back and appreciate why it happened. And I am sorry for those who will leave the game because of it, but I stand behind the decision that FD has made. Not because I am a fanboy, but because it makes perfect sense.
Seriously, that is what you get from that? Are you so afraid that people take their money back that all these insults are necessary? There were people like you even when Simcity Online happened.
Yes it is in the FAQ, under "how will single player work".
They wanted to reel in as many potential buyers as possible before dropping the bombshells like this and the removal of half the promised features and content. Not surprising.
This is of course a likely possibility.
That would be 100 hours of my life wasted. I played to make the game I funded a better game. If I would have known what I know now I would never have played.
Considering that it would be a fair move if they didn't just give me a refund, but also pay me additionally.
PS: In my case it wasn't 100 hourse. But still too much.
So the game will only exist for as long as FD exists. That's nice for you.
So.... when is the demand for a subscription to keep ED servers running, and FD employees running them, going to hit my in-box? What will be the real price of admission to ED in the future?
I had treated the Premium Beta as an investment, not in FD itself (I would have purchased shares for that) but in my own future expense of expansions etc. Offline-only meant a guarantee of no subscription or micro-transaction model in order to play the game unless I Opted Into One. I could have been playing this in 10 years' time if I wanted, albeit watered down from the original vision. Now, there is suddenly no guarantee at all that I'll be able to.
Yet what was really bad is the way FD handled such a bombshell with its own backers. Am surprised FD still haven't learned the lesson: don't try to hide bad news in a wall of self-congratulatory text and blatant invitations to pay more.
Better? Better for whom?
For those who now cant play the game because they thought it would be playable offline and don't have the infrastructure to get the kind of Internet you and me do?
That's real swell, I'm sure they're happy about our gain.
Still is DRM free, just requires internet. Internet =/= DRM
Give me your babies.
No, id doesn't. Because if I did't agree with their vision, I just wouldn't fund it and participate. That simple. I'd get a refund if I wanted it, and move on with my life. Not moan on the forums for hours. But hey, I guess that's just me.
Really? Because I'm mature enough to realize that if a producer doesn't offer what I want, I can simply go to another producer? That's strange... I must phone my economics professor and tell him I've been mistaken this whole time. Thank you kind sir!
Maybe that's because the DDF is now an archive of early design work... Could be a possibility...
So you managed to play hundreds of hours online so far but somehow now a stable internet connection is impossible?
Really?
Utter supposition, commander.
You're intent on seeing some vague evil presence because it would match up with your expectations. Better to see a demon, than logic, right? Because seeing logic would mean you'd have to think.
And thinking is what Michael, and David, have done a lot of - before they came to this decision.
I'm utterly tired of the communistic-accusatory model, that is based around feature X being removed, and therefore we're working with the Eye-of-Sauron.
Please, give it a break. Your tinfoil-hat encounters are amusing, at best.
For the record, I understand how frustrated people are that this has happened (probably around the 18th time I've said it in this thread), but the sheer misdirection and inability to comprehend fairly sound decisions astonishes me.
Fly safe, commander.
I like how you mistake being "mature" for simply having no standards of any kind. Carry on bragging about your education too, I'm sure people are impressed.
Online solo has always works well for a lot of people, myself included. Have you been playing in the online all group with these issues or solo ?
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Riiiiite. It's DRM free as long as the Digital Rights are Managed in a proper way?
It looks like what I said it does. I don't really see how any arguments could convince you otherwise. We can only go by what we see, and what we see is FD keeping this announcement for pretty much last, for reasons as discussed.
Sorry, but this whole debacle is all about the online 'experience'.
Funny how, with only a matter of weeks before release, and open 'gamma', that the offline mode is announced as 'not possible', when the original Frontier back in the day was exactly the same, even with planetary landings!
And Funny how, as was reminded to me by a friend, that Elite Dangerous' code has the workings for 'in-game advertising' - advertising that online connections would be needed for.
https://archive.today/kCfuD
Oh and don't forget that the decision to drop offline was made MONTHS AGO, but never felt the need to inform us, the beta/alpha testers who paid upwards of £50 to playtest the game.
Bad show, very bad show. If I find there is ingame ads, and there is no way to 100% turn them off, I will do everything possible to block the port/ip addresses that serve them, and then I'll post as much info on how to block it as I can on here and anywhere else of use. And if it breaks the game so to not be playable, I will seek further legal help.
Utterly disappointed. At least RSI are openly crooks.
Funny how, with only a matter of weeks before release, and open 'gamma', that the offline mode is announced as 'not possible', when the original Frontier back in the day was exactly the same, even with planetary landings!
And Funny how, as was reminded to me by a friend, that Elite Dangerous' code has the workings for 'in-game advertising' - advertising that online connections would be needed for.
https://archive.today/kCfuD
Oh and don't forget that the decision to drop offline was made MONTHS AGO, but never felt the need to inform us, the beta/alpha testers who paid upwards of £50 to playtest the game.
Bad show, very bad show. If I find there is ingame ads, and there is no way to 100% turn them off, I will do everything possible to block the port/ip addresses that serve them, and then I'll post as much info on how to block it as I can on here and anywhere else of use. And if it breaks the game so to not be playable, I will seek further legal help.
Utterly disappointed. At least RSI are openly crooks.
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