Nocturnal Animal Pack DLC/Update 1.11 Speculation

I definitely think the next dlc will include the Tasmanian devil because the way it looks now frontier is trying to pull down the most wanted animals impressively so it was the capybara the leopard and now I think it's the turn of the Tasmanian devil I would be so happy to see it in the game but the next dlc can also pull dowm the maned wolf or also the African crested porcupine

I think either the next dlc will be rainforest/tropical animal pack or nocturnal animal pack because both can include the tasmanian devil even though there are other options like for example oceania or islands dlc but i think frontier will make a dlc that fits the vibe of the fall and also of Halloween and in addition to that I'm pretty sure that Brachiation will enter another animal in the update like the orangutan or the chimp and then it will be a hint that probably one of the animals in the dlc will have the metal climbing frames which is suitable for the sloth

What's more, we still don't know what it will be, if it's a rainforest or a nocturnal dlc, and I also think that in the stream before the dlc there may be hints of the Tasmanian devil and maybe also the wombat because then it could be like oceania or the outback pack, I think the nocturnal animal pack will probably be the best dlc we've received so far If it includes animals like the Tasmanian devil, crested porcupine, wombat, sloth and many more amazing possibilities so can't wait to see what frontier hold for us in the future or a least in the 2 last dlcs. And also if, for example, Frontier wants to include animals like owls and bats, I think maybe there will be an aviary pack before that, because then if there is the flying mechanic, everyone after that will know that the next dlc will probably be an aviary pack, so if Frontier plans to include such animals like that, I think it will be the last dlc for at least a year This one and then in the fall there will be an aviary, but I have no idea
I agree! I'm almost certain we'll get the Tasmanian devil
 
Just throwing out a list of animals that I personally would think may be the pool they choose from -to go along with my posts yesterday.
Some of these are a mix of twilight/crespular and nocturnal.

Tasmanian Devil -if they go with this theme this is almost a certainty. It fits well and could headline a pack.
Kiwi
Porcupine (not sure on species)
Raccoon
Opposum
Wombat (not sure on species)
Maned Wolf
Wild Boar
Aye-Aye - may be too small but they're bigger than a meerkat.
Bad (not sure on species and would need flight mechanic introduced)
Sloth (not sure on species)

Wolverines, Fossa, Red River Hogs and Emu are among the more popular animals that would not fit this theme without a huge stretch but I think otherwise this encompasses much of what's heavily wanted.

There's not really an animal in the pack that would be a huge draw to the general player, but as I've opined before, there really aren't any of those animals left at all, unless they start including flying birds and marine animals.
 
I have a feeling a nocturnal pack would not be limited to strictly nocturnal house species. I have a few reasons for this:

1. Not all players are builders. There are many players who build zoos with only open air habitats because that is the extent of their building skill/want. To introduce nocturnal species that can only be kept in nocturnal houses would knock out a large portion of the game’s player base who simply would not be interested in building large complex buildings to house their animals.

2. We simply don’t have those mechanics. To introduce strictly nocturnal house species, we would have to introduce a mechanic to allow buildings to be completely ‘blackout’. This seems like it would be very hard to do, especially when most players who build these houses just switch to ‘night time’ anyway. Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to see this mechanic introduced, but it seems unlikely.

3. A nocturnal house pack would limit the options for animal inclusion. There are plenty of nocturnal animals that can be houses outdoors, and seen during the day that would be the absolute front-runners for a pack like this (and would quite likely sell the pack to a majority of players). I think that there are definitely some nocturnal house animals that should be included (Aye Aye, North Island Brown Kiwi) but on the whole, there are many more animals that would fit into a ‘Nocturnal’ theme that can be showcased in a variety of habitat formats!
Yeah I'm saying they would be two different identities. A nocturnal house pack would be for animals that are commonly held in nocturnal houses but a nocturnal animals pack would be about animals that are nocturnal. Not the same thing.
 
Just throwing out a list of animals that I personally would think may be the pool they choose from -to go along with my posts yesterday.
Some of these are a mix of twilight/crespular and nocturnal.

Tasmanian Devil -if they go with this theme this is almost a certainty. It fits well and could headline a pack.
Kiwi
Porcupine (not sure on species)
Raccoon
Opposum
Wombat (not sure on species)
Maned Wolf
Wild Boar
Aye-Aye - may be too small but they're bigger than a meerkat.
Bad (not sure on species and would need flight mechanic introduced)
Sloth (not sure on species)

Wolverines, Fossa, Red River Hogs and Emu are among the more popular animals that would not fit this theme without a huge stretch but I think otherwise this encompasses much of what's heavily wanted.

There's not really an animal in the pack that would be a huge draw to the general player, but as I've opined before, there really aren't any of those animals left at all, unless they start including flying birds and marine animals.
Why is the red river hog more of a stretch than the wild boar? Aren't both primarily nocturnal but also active during daytime?
 
Rainforest you could argue (although they prefer dry forest) but tropical?
Idk haha yea rainforest It's better for fall but now that we got the gibbon and also if I'm correct the capybara is a rainforest animal so that we got those It's sound more likely to get tropical because It's different animals and it open doors for more animals but yea Idk what I thought when I write this..
 
Why is the red river hog more of a stretch than the wild boar? Aren't both primarily nocturnal but also active during daytime?
Oh wow, sorry about that. I could have sworn I read the exact opposite yesterday but maybe my brain is just a bit addled. Yeah they’d work
 
Just throwing out a list of animals that I personally would think may be the pool they choose from -to go along with my posts yesterday.
Some of these are a mix of twilight/crespular and nocturnal.

Tasmanian Devil -if they go with this theme this is almost a certainty. It fits well and could headline a pack.
Kiwi
Porcupine (not sure on species)
Raccoon
Opposum
Wombat (not sure on species)
Maned Wolf
Wild Boar
Aye-Aye - may be too small but they're bigger than a meerkat.
Bad (not sure on species and would need flight mechanic introduced)
Sloth (not sure on species)

Wolverines, Fossa, Red River Hogs and Emu are among the more popular animals that would not fit this theme without a huge stretch but I think otherwise this encompasses much of what's heavily wanted.

There's not really an animal in the pack that would be a huge draw to the general player, but as I've opined before, there really aren't any of those animals left at all, unless they start including flying birds and marine animals.
In the nocturnal house at the Duluth Zoo they have Slow Lorises, Pallas's Cat, Cape Genet, Armadillo, and Burrowing Owl. Those all could work. And for exhibit European Glass Lizard
 
All of this nocturnal pack speculation resulted in me actually having a dream about it being announced last night. It had 10 animals, of which 3 were species of flounder, and one was a generic "owl" that was called just that. The only other real species was the pygmy hog, which I couldn't even tell you if it's even nocturnal or not and I have no idea why my brain settled on it of all things. Everything else was a made up dream animal that sounded real enough for me to not question it. I think some people were pretty happy to be getting both fully aquatic and flying species in a single pack, but others were upset about the absurdity of the species chosen given how little DLC was left to come.

Anyway what I'm getting at is that if we don't get at least three different species of flounder, I'm going to have to pass on a nocturnal pack.


...Honestly though, I'm not actually entirely sure why so many people are fixated on a nocturnal pack lately. I mean, I get that it's a fun theme that I'd be excited for, I get that it could knock out a broad selection of popular animals, but... so would so many other themes I've seen proposed. I don't see why this would be any likelier than basically any other theme at this point. This feels a bit like back in the spring when so many people were dead convinced that a tropical pack had to be coming simply because it was speculated on a bunch.
 
All of this nocturnal pack speculation resulted in me actually having a dream about it being announced last night. It had 10 animals, of which 3 were species of flounder, and one was a generic "owl" that was called just that. The only other real species was the pygmy hog, which I couldn't even tell you if it's even nocturnal or not and I have no idea why my brain settled on it of all things. Everything else was a made up dream animal that sounded real enough for me to not question it. I think some people were pretty happy to be getting both fully aquatic and flying species in a single pack, but others were upset about the absurdity of the species chosen given how little DLC was left to come.

Anyway what I'm getting at is that if we don't get at least three different species of flounder, I'm going to have to pass on a nocturnal pack.
Coming next: Planet Zoo Flounder DLC, introducing to you four types of flounder and 200+ Flounder-themed scenery pieces. It will be the only pack that has fully aquatic animals.
 
In the nocturnal house at the Duluth Zoo they have Slow Lorises, Pallas's Cat, Cape Genet, Armadillo, and Burrowing Owl. Those all could work. And for exhibit European Glass Lizard
The BURROWING OWL! What a fantastic idea!!! That way, we get an owl in the nocturnal pack without a huge flying mechanics introduction. That would be brilliant!
 
The BURROWING OWL! What a fantastic idea!!! That way, we get an owl in the nocturnal pack without a huge flying mechanics introduction. That would be brilliant!
Nvm, just found out that burrowing owls are not nocturnal. However, would still love to see them in-game at some point!
 
So based on the speculations on these forums and on the wishlist I made up 4 possible options of DLC. IMO these are the 4 options and I truely can't see any other theme created for the next DLC, of course the animals in the pack can vary whatever frontier might chose.

Option 1: Nocturnal DLC
Heavily speculated and a big wish from the community is of course the nocturnal house animal pack. I think frontier will go for classic nocturnal house animals, as a lot of the species suggested on this forum are just basic animals that have nothing to do with their nocturnal behaviour in zoos, and are mostly just held in outdour exhibits and therefore are not truely nocturnal animals IMO. (maned wolf, red river hog, asiatic lion etc.) A good site to see what species are held in nocturnal houses is: https://www.zoochat.com/community/threads/nocturnal-houses-species-lists.468975/
This pack will tick out a lot of wanted animals from the wish list whille also giving players animals that can be used for other purposes.
My picks:
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Alternatives:
  • Slow Loris
  • Javan Mouse Deer
  • Northern Island Brown Kiwi
  • Red Coati
  • Fossa
  • Striped Skunk
  • Sloth (if they chose this theme I believe the sloth will be kept as the flagship animal of a next DLC...)

Option 2: Rainforests Animal Pack
So actually when you add up all the different species of sloth on the wishlist, it will pass the tasmanian devil and will then be the most wanted animal from the wishlist. Thereby is the sloth an iconic zoo-animal and easiliy recognizable by non zoo-nerds :0.
My picks:
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Alternatives:
  • Lar Gibbon
  • Golden Lion Tamarin
  • Fossa
  • Fishing Cat
  • Crowned Sifaka
  • Nine-Banded Armadillo
  • Red Coati
  • Spider Monkey
  • Gaur
  • African Forest Buffalo

Option 3: Woodlands Animal Pack
So if Frontier want to broaden their animal selection, an alternative would be to not specify on tropical rainforests but to include all kinds of forests. For me personally this animal selection is the best of all the options and is really diversive and has many iconical species. A downside would be that it includes too many flagship species and would leave no others for the remaining DLC's.
My Picks:


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Alternatives:
  • American Black Bear
  • Sloth Bear
  • Gaur
  • Lar Gibbon
  • Spider Monkey
  • Tree Kangaroo
  • Wild Boar
  • Ocelot
  • Red Fox

Option 4: Grasslands/ Drylands Animal Pack
If Frontier wants to play it safe by not releasing any major new updates to the game or new mechanics, they could take this option. It includes animals that are not too majorly different than animals already in game. But still add many great animals.
My Picks:
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Alternatives:
  • Secretary Bird
  • Common Wombat
  • Common Eland
  • Greater Kudu
  • Serval
  • African Leopard
  • Greater Kudu
  • Musk Ox
  • Red Fox

So personally I would go for option 3, but any of the first 3 would be perfectly fine to me.

Please tell me your pick!!!
 
If being kept in nocturnal houses in zoos is your criterion then Tassie Devil shouldn’t be on the list - they’re fine in open enclosures (and I’ve never seen them in anything else). Kiwi, however, would be ideal Oceanian inclusion for a nocturnal house pack - lots of other options too though: Quolls, Dunnarts, Bilbies, Bandicoots, Bettongs, Pottaroos are all often (though not always) kept in nocturnal houses…. In the other hand, not including the devil because of a fairly arbitrary criterion seems like going too far to me, so I’d probably include it anyway.
 
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If being kept in nocturnal houses in zoos is your criterion then Tassie Devil shouldn’t be on the list - they’re fine in open enclosures (and I’ve never seen them in anything else).
I just saw Tasmanian devils for the first time in my life (sorry, I'm going to spam you all over the forum about this lol) and they were in a open air enclosure. It's too hot in Copenhagen today and not a single cloud in the sky, yet the Tasmanian devil didn't stop running all time around the habitat even at human lunch time. I agree now with @ElectricMonk and don't think a nocturnal house is needed for the Tassie's at all.
 
I just saw Tasmanian devils for the first time in my life (sorry, I'm going to spam you all over the forum about this lol) and they were in a open air enclosure. It's too hot in Copenhagen today and not a single cloud in the sky, yet the Tasmanian devil didn't stop running all time around the habitat even at human lunch time. I agree now with @ElectricMonk and don't think a nocturnal house is needed for the Tassie's at all.
Hey man, no problemo. When you something great happens you wanna tell everybody; I know because I constantly spam my friends🤣. (I hope I'm not annoying to them😱).

Glad you enjoyed seeing some hungry tornadoes
 
TBH nocturnal animal pack would look exactly like Singapore Night Safari.

Trailer being just your average zoo made with base game wood pieces featuring new animals in night time. All of them being put in light for better showcase (night safari is doing that)

No nocturnal houses, no new behaviors and no new plants.
Seriously, what about free update plants? Nocturnal foliage?
 
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