Right, so why quote rumoured prices? It adds nothing to the discussion.
I'll bet the happy little HTC accounting elves are trying to get their pricing down to the CV1 level. I suspect they will be within $100 of the CV1 if they are smart.
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I'll bet the happy little HTC accounting elves are trying to get their pricing down to the CV1 level. I suspect they will be within $100 of the CV1 if they are smart.
I pre-ordered the rift and am looking forward to giving Valkyrie a blast, it will be the first time I have tried VR.
Have only played ED for a couple of months since the Horizons release, aside from the many bugs I'm liking it so far. Now, I'm the type that likes many different TYPES of games, FPS, MMO, Flight sims etc etc, and I suspect there are a lot of people out there that are like me, if I get bored with a game or something comes along that looks better, then I'll give it a go, if it's not as good as I thought it was then I'll move back to the previous game.
My guess is companies like FD have a main focus on drawing in more people to play their game, if they aren't gonna play ball then potential customers are going to be lost as soon as the next best thing comes along.
Even though I like playing ED, if I can't play it with the investment I made (OR), then I (and new customers alike) will be moving on, and I'm pretty sure FD don't want that. With that in mind, I have confidence in FD that they are working furiously to be compatible with the OR in order to bring in those new customers.
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Have only played ED for a couple of months since the Horizons release, aside from the many bugs I'm liking it so far. Now, I'm the type that likes many different TYPES of games, FPS, MMO, Flight sims etc etc, and I suspect there are a lot of people out there that are like me, if I get bored with a game or something comes along that looks better, then I'll give it a go, if it's not as good as I thought it was then I'll move back to the previous game.
My guess is companies like FD have a main focus on drawing in more people to play their game, if they aren't gonna play ball then potential customers are going to be lost as soon as the next best thing comes along.
Even though I like playing ED, if I can't play it with the investment I made (OR), then I (and new customers alike) will be moving on, and I'm pretty sure FD don't want that. With that in mind, I have confidence in FD that they are working furiously to be compatible with the OR in order to bring in those new customers.
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Regarding VR, not sure about Valkyrie, but VR in general...you're in for a right treat!!!
Make sure all kids are out of ear shot though when you 1st try it out...usually people suddenly develop a temp form of tourettes and lots of expletives escape their mouth
Well I do simply not want to pay that much for EVE Valkyrie, obviously 1 week of fun and many different TYPES of games, FPS, MMO, Flight sims etc which remain myths and legends. A future (or 12 moths) with many different games ... is exactly what Oculus cannot show at the moment. Steam at least has a working network of studios and some major titles which appears to be way more promising to me. Nevertheless, if Oculus and FD will make a step together, this is good for both. If Oculus backs out, it's FD's turn to go along with SteamVR... and tell us in time.
I wish FDEV would just come out and tell us what the issue is. I'm lead to believe it was an issue with direct mode. Well steamVR are dropping extended mode and going with direct mode as well. Won't that mean the vive won't work either?
I think that FDEV haven't been given Oculus SDK 1.0. It has only been released to developers of launch titles. Elite can't be a launch title for Rift as it won't run on the min spec previously announced by Oculus! That would mean they get the SDK in March with the rest of us at which point they can either make changes to their engine to allow direct mode to work or drop Rift support entirely.
I think that FDEV haven't been given Oculus SDK 1.0. It has only been released to developers of launch titles. Elite can't be a launch title for Rift as it won't run on the min spec previously announced by Oculus! That would mean they get the SDK in March with the rest of us at which point they can either make changes to their engine to allow direct mode to work or drop Rift support entirely.
Personally I think it's a bit of a farce. "Yes we are supporting Oculus, maybe, possibly Vive, maybe, maybe not, definitely some VR at some point."
Well as an original Elite player back in the 80s (at Elite level) I bought the DK2 on release because of Elite, I've been a Beta Premium for ED and since release I've only ever played ED on the rift, no amount of screens can change the immersion of the rift - I'd have loved to have tried the others but there doesn't appear to be anything else on the market other than bull previews. DK2 was a development kit so who is developing for Hive or the other ones?
I'm pre-ordered for CV1 and if Frontier don't support Oculus then quite simply, I'm not going to be playing ED. There are plenty of other games out there to play, this isn't the only game in the world. Not that Frontier will care, they've had my money, they've made their game and their profit - target achieved, you all.
Just man up and tell us whether you're actually going to support it or not. "Actively working with Oculus" sounds like you've had a massive row with them and are now trying to go it alone rather than as a founding partner - probably because you slept with Valve or Sony on the side and Oculus didn't like it. Frontier, Oculus, Sony and Valve should be on the software equivalent of Jeremy Kyle.
We paid for it, make it work like you said you would. Stop making extra stuff that no one wants and just deliver what was promised. (Don't forget to use, "We said VR experience, not specifically Oculus Rift..." as a weasel clause).
Well as an original Elite player back in the 80s (at Elite level) I bought the DK2 on release because of Elite, I've been a Beta Premium for ED and since release I've only ever played ED on the rift, no amount of screens can change the immersion of the rift - I'd have loved to have tried the others but there doesn't appear to be anything else on the market other than bull
previews. DK2 was a development kit so who is developing for Hive or the other ones?I'm pre-ordered for CV1 and if Frontier don't support Oculus then quite simply, I'm not going to be playing ED. There are plenty of other games out there to play, this isn't the only game in the world. Not that Frontier will care, they've had my money, they've made their game and their profit - target achieved,
you all.Just man up and tell us whether you're actually going to support it or not. "Actively working with Oculus" sounds like you've had a massive row with them and are now trying to go it alone rather than as a founding partner - probably because you slept with Valve or Sony on the side and Oculus didn't like it. Frontier, Oculus, Sony and Valve should be on the software equivalent of Jeremy Kyle.
We paid for it, make it work like you said you would. Stop making extra stuff that no one wants and just deliver what was promised. (Don't forget to use, "We said VR experience, not specifically Oculus Rift..." as a weasel clause).
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Nice rant. Makes you seem a lot younger than someone who played the original games.
FD have said they are committed to supporting VR and all the headsets, yet all some people see everywhere is conspiracy. FD have no vested interest in what’s the best headset, only that they have support for all of them so they can appear to the widest possible audience of potential players. They have also said that the reason they don’t support the latest firmware and why they might not support CV1 is because of technical reasons. Again the conspiracy is FD are secretly withholding the update just because they are evil and like doing that sort of thing. The reality is they are working with Oculus to resolve the issue. Since FD haven’t come out and said directly what the issue is, it’s likely to be an Oculus problem and FD are not in the business of pointing the blame at others.
Its highly likely that whatever the fix is, it needs to come from Oculus. And since they are busy with the release of their hardware, FD can’t guarantee when the problem will be fixed.
Yeah, FD say a lot of things, but a the end of the day.... Quite like the "offline solo".
So as far as i'm concerned, I can hear the critics and understand them.
I'm exactly on the other side of the fence than Fireblade: I will preorder the VR set that I will be sure will support in the best way Elite Dangerous.
I'm 47 (well... almost 48) with a family and a job: I find time just to play one game and in the last year this has been Elite Dangerous. I know that maybe with some tinkering the Oculus Rift will work with Elite Dangerous. But I'm concerned that if it's not "fully" supported (read: logo glaring on Elite Dangerous front page) I will have to spend my precious time tinkering instead of playing.
For me it's like choosing betweeen ATI and Nvidia: if I have to play just one game, I choose the one that seems to support it in the best way. Nvidia logo flashing in the Elite Dangerous front page ? I will choose Nvidia. This doesn't mean ATI doesn't work and maybe ATI is a better graphic board than Nvidia, but I just want to maximise my quality time.
All those polite words spent by Frontier to tell me that they can't be sure CV1 will work "hassle-free", while Oculus is silent, are making me think that the HTC Vive could be a better choice.
This maybe will change based on pricing etc. But few weeks ago I didn't even thought about buying the HTC Vive. Now I'm considering it, and it will be an option if by preorder start there will not be some more claritiy about Oculus Rift support.
Which I agree should come from Oculus, as Frontier has already communicated their position.
I'm 47 (well... almost 48) with a family and a job: I find time just to play one game and in the last year this has been Elite Dangerous. I know that maybe with some tinkering the Oculus Rift will work with Elite Dangerous. But I'm concerned that if it's not "fully" supported (read: logo glaring on Elite Dangerous front page) I will have to spend my precious time tinkering instead of playing.
For me it's like choosing betweeen ATI and Nvidia: if I have to play just one game, I choose the one that seems to support it in the best way. Nvidia logo flashing in the Elite Dangerous front page ? I will choose Nvidia. This doesn't mean ATI doesn't work and maybe ATI is a better graphic board than Nvidia, but I just want to maximise my quality time.
All those polite words spent by Frontier to tell me that they can't be sure CV1 will work "hassle-free", while Oculus is silent, are making me think that the HTC Vive could be a better choice.
This maybe will change based on pricing etc. But few weeks ago I didn't even thought about buying the HTC Vive. Now I'm considering it, and it will be an option if by preorder start there will not be some more claritiy about Oculus Rift support.
Which I agree should come from Oculus, as Frontier has already communicated their position.
Ditto that. ED is all I've been playing for the last year with DK2. It's fantastic in VR. I do prefer the CV1. However, the first HMD that is released with 100% support by FD, that's the one I'm buying. Not the other way around. EVE: Valkyrie is certainly not attractive enough for me to click that pre-order button. It's Mikey Mouse next to ED. None of this Pre-Order sh#$ until I know for sure. It's just too much cash to dump on hopes and wishes.
Okay, so with the spleen vented and now back to normal.
What inroads and communications have there been from FD around the support of the HTC or Sony offerings? I'm curious as to how much work has gone into developing the game for products which Joe public have no general access to, have not seen, don't know what they cost, how they perform or what spec machines are required to the level that Oculus have done. Essentially, all the things that Oculus have basically been hauled over the coals for we've not had from the others players in the VR game.
My personal view is that they will wait until Oculus have released either the CV1 or revealed how many pre-orders they have had which they probably won't do for obvious reasons. If HTC or Sony want to steal a march on Oculus then all they need to do is release theirs at the same time because there aren't going to be many people that will buy more than one VR headset so publishers like FD may well be the market definers and I'm sorry to say it but Elite isn't that appealing to the masses, it is actually quite a niche game really.
My, this is going to be an interesting year for gaming.
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I'll second that.
What inroads and communications have there been from FD around the support of the HTC or Sony offerings? I'm curious as to how much work has gone into developing the game for products which Joe public have no general access to, have not seen, don't know what they cost, how they perform or what spec machines are required to the level that Oculus have done. Essentially, all the things that Oculus have basically been hauled over the coals for we've not had from the others players in the VR game.
My personal view is that they will wait until Oculus have released either the CV1 or revealed how many pre-orders they have had which they probably won't do for obvious reasons. If HTC or Sony want to steal a march on Oculus then all they need to do is release theirs at the same time because there aren't going to be many people that will buy more than one VR headset so publishers like FD may well be the market definers and I'm sorry to say it but Elite isn't that appealing to the masses, it is actually quite a niche game really.
My, this is going to be an interesting year for gaming.
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I'll second that.
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Agreed... but I would also regard VR HMDs as niche products - not yet for the masses. I am looking for THE VR experience and have already spent a few thousand EUR on my hardware - including the first Rifts. Additionally - just like itarrow (see above) - I do play only a few but highly advanced games. Elite has been one of these games in the 80s and - without any nostalgic feelings - Elite Dangerous is the same in the current century. Its VR capability is a big part of this.
The tradeoff - for Oculus or any other manufacturer - is, that I care much about the tech but little about the price - if the experience is great. So they should work together with those who produce the best content for their toys or insist on a closed shop and go down the drain.
I shouldn't worry - Valve and Oculus will also ensure SteamVR support for OR anyway. The question is whether it'll be as good an experience as native OR or Vive via SteamVR.
My guess is yes, it will be.
Valve are supplying the software stack on which Vive is built, but it's ultimately an HTC product - thus, Valve are positioning themselves very cleverly as they did with Steam: deliver a universal platform, not a closed shop.
Within a year I expect most PC VR experiences to be delivered via SteamVR because Valve's penetration into the PC gaming market is so great. Oculus will struggle against that I think. But they might retain the mobile VR market.
Just a theory, mind you.
Hello,
I have gtx 980 SLI, will work in the Elite Dangerous Horizonts in Oculus? I play only this game. Now it works perfectly in the game.
PS sry for my English
I have gtx 980 SLI, will work in the Elite Dangerous Horizonts in Oculus? I play only this game. Now it works perfectly in the game.
PS sry for my English
If you're running two 980's in SLI you shouldn't really have to ask this question
Oculus stated the min card recommended is a 970.
If you're running two 980's in SLI you shouldn't really have to ask this question
Oculus stated the min card recommended is a 970.
I think he might be asking about people's success/difficulties with getting SLI working properly for the ED-Rift combo (but unhelpfully enough, I don't know the answer!)
I don't think OR 1.0 runtime is written with SLI in mind where each card renders one eye.
I have to say that I am somewhat confused.. I am using my DK2 in direct mode via steamVR.. works without any problems...