Planet Zoo 2 Speculation and ideas

[Milurian]

Frankly I'd be mad at Frontier if any animal from the first game, base or DLC, was sold in a DLC in the sequel. They already have the models, sounds, and animations, and JWE2 managed not to sell any prehistoric creature from the first game as DLC (except for the Huayangosaurus and the Secrets of Dr. Wu hybrids), so why can't Planet Zoo do the same and have every DLC animal from the first game be part of the base game in the sequel?

I would love it if they all come back and every animal coming back is a must for me even if it is in dlc. Ultimately planet zoo has close to 200 animals no where near what JWE1 or JWE2 have so it would make dlc so much harder to market when the base game roaster already has so much especially since if they didnt add anything new to the base game no one would get the sequel so a solid 20-40 animal minimum would have to be new.

Also depending on how the sequel is made all the coding and models may need to be changed anyways

 

[Swjosdotschka]

Soooo... based on this reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetCoaster/comments/1eyei9s

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetCoaster/comments/1eyei9s/played_the_gamescom_pc2_demo_here_are_some_details/?share_id=Ji1PhZ0yh7mz4vQBAsHJX&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1


Coaster is getting seasons, which probably means, Zoo 2 is getting seasons. So no snow in July anymore.
I am torn on the different staff buildings. Realistic, yes, but maybe down the line a little tedious when planning. Same with the dietary needs of guests. Sounds awesome at first glance, but I smell an out of balance system again for zoo. It's already bad enough because the requests of guests for drinks and food equal theme parks, not zoos.

 

[Captain Callum]

Soooo... based on this reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetCoaster/comments/1eyei9s

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetCoaster/comments/1eyei9s/played_the_gamescom_pc2_demo_here_are_some_details/?share_id=Ji1PhZ0yh7mz4vQBAsHJX&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1


Coaster is getting seasons, which probably means, Zoo 2 is getting seasons. So new snow in July anymore.
I am torn on the different staff buildings. Realistic, yes, but maybe down the line a little tedious when planning. Same with the dietary needs of guests. Sounds awesome at first glance, but I smell an out of balance system again for zoo. It's already bad enough because the requests of guests for drinks and food equal theme parks, not zoos.

That's disappointing about the scaling, the limited range honestly doesn't help much apart from maybe some trees.

 

[Utahraptor Arcanus]

Same with the dietary needs of guests. Sounds awesome at first glance, but I smell an out of balance system again for zoo. It's already bad enough because the requests of guests for drinks and food equal theme parks, not zoos.

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Idk if my opinion is driven by the fact that most brazilian zoos don't have restaurants/kiosks, and those who have are obnoxiously expansive, but do people really need to eat while visiting? And if so, isn't it better to simply bring your own?

 

[Captain Callum]

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Idk if my opinion is driven by the fact that most brazilian zoos don't have restaurants/kiosks, and those who have are obnoxiously expansive, but do people really need to eat while visiting? And if so, isn't it better to simply bring your own?

The food options currently are fine, most places in the UK and north America are a variation of a chief beef anyway. There's nothing stopping anyone from placing down a food stand and decorating it to a vegan, Asian, barbeque or whatever themed cafe. From the zoos I've visited in both the UK and USA, every single zoo has at least 2 food places that sell food. Often burgers, local cuisine or themed to the area it is in like an Asian themed cafe, if I'm visiting a new zoo then I'll often visit one of these and just suck up the cost while i wouldn't do that at my local zoo and rather buy a lunch from elsewhere.

 

[Marvinb]

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Idk if my opinion is driven by the fact that most brazilian zoos don't have restaurants/kiosks, and those who have are obnoxiously expansive, but do people really need to eat while visiting? And if so, isn't it better to simply bring your own?

Im not someone who sits down and orders something at a restaurant, i rather bring something and eat at sandwhich on the way for example.
But there pretty much always is a restaurant in a zoo over here

 

[Utahraptor Arcanus]

Im not someone who sits down and orders something at a restaurant, i rather bring something and eat at sandwhich on the way for example.

Same here, in my last visit to the SP zoo me and my family bring in some sandwiches instead of ordering the 60 R$ mid-quality food.

 

[Puzzelo]

As others have said, I’d like to play a large full species zoo on my $2000 gaming laptop and I don’t feel like that’s asking too much.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

As others have said, I’d like to play a large full species zoo on my $2000 gaming laptop and I don’t feel like that’s asking too much.

Buddy, its really alot as that requires one hell of a smooth performance
Thats optimised beyond whats reasonable

 

[Swjosdotschka]

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Idk if my opinion is driven by the fact that most brazilian zoos don't have restaurants/kiosks, and those who have are obnoxiously expansive, but do people really need to eat while visiting? And if so, isn't it better to simply bring your own?

All zoos have Restaurants here and some of them are indeed themed for the area. Our zoos usually are not small and I like to sit down for a rest when I'm there all day. For me it's also part of the expierince. I bring drinks to a zoo trip, but no full on lunch. Snacks I only bring if I had to get up early and basically need breakfast in the zoo.

So yeah, food is a standard here in germany, but we do not need a shop every 500 meters like in the game.

 

[NachoB]

So yeah, food is a standard here in germany, but we do not need a shop every 500 meters like in the game.

Maybe americans do

 

[Captain Callum]

Maybe americans do

Frontier must of visited the San Diego zoo to gather guest needs with it's 25 food options with a food choice in every single part of the zoo. It makes sense for how busy the zoo is but it's ridiculous we need a similar amount ingame for a zoo a fraction of the size.

 

[Swjosdotschka]

Maybe americans do

The game company is british though
I still think it's a theme park thing. Theme parks and fun fairs are more about food and drinks then zoos. I'd still love more variety in the game. Like fish shops with an aquatic pack etc.

 

[NZFanatic]

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Yes and no. Most zoos in New Zealand have one or two "restaurants" and one or two stands (coffee and ice cream). As others have said, the way the game forces us to put food and drink on every corner is kind of stupid and unrealistic, but I guess they included it to create some modicum of a challenge. The main thing that bugs me is the separation of products. For example, a stand that sells fries separate to a stand that sells burgers. Where in the world do these two things not go hand in hand? A burger stand/restaurant should sell fries and drinks as well. Water shouldn't be sold separately anywhere - it should be readily available no matter where you shop. Likewise most places fold ice cream and milkshakes together, coffee/smoothies, and baked goods (doughnuts, cupcakes, sandwiches, etc) would all be sold in one place.

I guess my point is that I think it's dumb that a zoo guest in the game needs to queue three times to get a basic meal.

 

[Milurian]

Question: but do you guys on NA, Europe and Oceania seriously care about food in zoos?

Idk if my opinion is driven by the fact that most brazilian zoos don't have restaurants/kiosks, and those who have are obnoxiously expansive, but do people really need to eat while visiting? And if so, isn't it better to simply bring your own?

Here in Australia its no where near as bad as what is portrayed in planet zoo. Zoos do have restaurants but usually only one or 2 major and maybe 10 or so food stands and like no exclusive drink stands usually only water refill stations. Also a majority of the food is located around either in a centralised food court or near the stadiums for shows seeing random food stalls or standalone restaurants isnt common.
Whether people care varies alot between individuals I know alot of people who dont buy food at the zoo since it is much more expensive and just bring their own in.

 

[jcp011c]

Assuming that we might possibly get both flying birds (habitat or exhibit not sure with a new game engine) and fully marine animals, as well as standard/walk through exhibit animals, it's not very likely that we'll get the entire PZ roster in the PZ2 base game along with some of each of birds and marine animals. How would everyone feel about 72-80 base game animals, with 18 to 20 of each of flying birds, marine animals, standard/WTE animals, and standard terrestrial habitat animals? In that scenario, what would you want your roster to be? You can fudge a little on the numbers for each category so long as it falls in the 72-80 animals total (meaning you may want to to 28 standard terrestrial animals, and 16 of Marine/birds/exhibits for a total of 76 animals, as one example)

I'll come back to this and add in my roster later, right now I've got to start working (thank goodness for remote working from home on Fridays!)

 

[Marvinb]

Assuming that we might possibly get both flying birds (habitat or exhibit not sure with a new game engine) and fully marine animals, as well as standard/walk through exhibit animals, it's not very likely that we'll get the entire PZ roster in the PZ2 base game along with some of each of birds and marine animals. How would everyone feel about 72-80 base game animals, with 18 to 20 of each of flying birds, marine animals, standard/WTE animals, and standard terrestrial habitat animals? In that scenario, what would you want your roster to be? You can fudge a little on the numbers for each category so long as it falls in the 72-80 animals total (meaning you may want to to 28 standard terrestrial animals, and 16 of Marine/birds/exhibits for a total of 76 animals, as one example)

I'll come back to this and add in my roster later, right now I've got to start working (thank goodness for remote working from home on Fridays!)

Id feel pretty bad about it honetsly.
Like as much as i would like to have aquatics and aviary birds the main part of the game is and probably will ever be the habitat animals.
And just 20 is just WAY to few, PZ had 70ish and there still was so much missing, now imagine only having a third to quarter of that.

 

[TheYeti]

Assuming that we might possibly get both flying birds (habitat or exhibit not sure with a new game engine) and fully marine animals, as well as standard/walk through exhibit animals, it's not very likely that we'll get the entire PZ roster in the PZ2 base game along with some of each of birds and marine animals. How would everyone feel about 72-80 base game animals, with 18 to 20 of each of flying birds, marine animals, standard/WTE animals, and standard terrestrial habitat animals? In that scenario, what would you want your roster to be? You can fudge a little on the numbers for each category so long as it falls in the 72-80 animals total (meaning you may want to to 28 standard terrestrial animals, and 16 of Marine/birds/exhibits for a total of 76 animals, as one example)

I'll come back to this and add in my roster later, right now I've got to start working (thank goodness for remote working from home on Fridays!)

I would assume if they reuse current rigs, the number can go up to at least a 100. I think 20 flying birds is very reasonable, and 20 fully aquatic species may be too, depending on the picks. Regarding standard habitat species, we should get more than just 20.

 

[NachoB]

I would assume if they reuse current rigs, the number can go up to at least a 100. I think 20 flying birds is very reasonable, and 20 fully aquatic species may be too, depending on the picks. Regarding standard habitat species, we should get more than just 20.

I don't think we would get a lot of flying and Aquatic animals in base game, just a few. The DLCs would complete the rest as i assume it would be the main selling point.

 

[jcp011c]

I don't think we would get a lot of flying and Aquatic animals in base game, just a few. The DLCs would complete the rest as i assume it would be the main selling point.

I would assume if they reuse current rigs, the number can go up to at least a 100. I think 20 flying birds is very reasonable, and 20 fully aquatic species may be too, depending on the picks. Regarding standard habitat species, we should get more than just 20.

Id feel pretty bad about it honetsly.
Like as much as i would like to have aquatics and aviary birds the main part of the game is and probably will ever be the habitat animals.
And just 20 is just WAY to few, PZ had 70ish and there still was so much missing, now imagine only having a third to quarter of that.

All of this makes sense, and I can understand @NachoB's thinking particularly, maybe we were just to get about 10 marine and 10 flying bird species, another 10 exhibit animals and around 40-50 standard habitat animals. I do think that expecting 100 animals in the base game is probably unrealistic, so keeping it in the 70-80 range and bumping up the standard habitat animal count might be more realistic.